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Death at Brisbane rave

Last Update: Sunday, April 16, 2006. 12:19pm (AEST)

Taken from ABC news ;

Drug overdose kills Brisbane partygoer

Police say they will conduct further investigations into a suspected fatal drug overdose if requested by the coroner.

A 25-year-old Carseldine man collapsed from a suspected overdose at a rave party at Brisbane's RNA showgrounds last night.

Ambulance officers treated him at the scene before taking him to hospital but he died a short time later.

Drug Arm's executive director Dennis Young says people should get immediate help if a friend has been adversely affected by drugs.

"Quite often they are a little slow off the mark because they don't want to get anyone in trouble," he said.

"But the big problem is, it's far better to be alive in the morning and still breathing and then you can sort out the other issues that come from it.

"The real danger is when you don't do anything and you think you're helping your mate but in fact you can be doing considerable harm."

[EDIT: Link (ABC News)]
 
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Man i saw this dude as the ambos came in.... didn't think he'd die.,

My Condolences. that's really sad.
 
Another Atricle

here is something else i dug up
news.com.au said:
Drugged ravers 'high overdose risk'
From: AAP
By Roberta Mancuso
April 16, 2006


AUTHORITIES warn those who take drugs at rave parties are dicing with death after a man died of a suspected overdose at a Brisbane festival.
The 25-year-old collapsed at the Mayhem Easter Music Festival at the RNA showgrounds in inner-city Fortitude Valley around 11.15pm (AEST) yesterday.

An ambulance spokesman said the man was "aggressive and violent" towards paramedics when they arrived at about 12.20am (AEST). He was taken to nearby Royal Brisbane Hospital (RBH), where he died at around 12.45am (AEST).

"Apparently he deteriorated in RBH," the ambulance spokesman said.

"We didn't respond with lights and sirens, so it wasn't seen as an emergency when we got there."

The spokesman said he had "no idea" what the man, from Carseldine in Brisbane's north, may have taken.

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A post-mortem would be carried out in coming days and police said they would investigate further if asked by the coroner.

Drug Arm executive director Dennis Young said many young people who took drugs at such events put themselves at "high risk".

"I know that Queensland Health, the ambulance, police and a whole range of other government and NGOs (non-government organisations) have been working to try to reduce the harm, but unfortunately when young people go to these places they go with an expectation of really going hard at it," Mr Young said.

"Of course that raises all sorts of risks.

"They're not necessarily always in the best physical and emotional condition then to make appropriate judgments, and that's how they can get into some serious harm."

Internet chat forums were today filled with news of the tragedy.

Some who attended the event expressed their sorrow while others questioned whether a "bad batch" of drugs was circulating within the rave community.

"... when we do know what happened then I think it should be put publicly," one user wrote on an inthemix.com.au forum.

"If there is a bad batch of something going around then people in a community like the dance community should be made aware of it."

Another wrote: "What a terrible blight on an otherwise awesome party."

Thousands of partygoers attended the rave which promoters billed as "biggest ever Mayhem event".

Attempts to contact the event's organiser, Mayhem Productions, were unsuccessful. Their website was also down, citing "major upgrades".

Mr Young said he understood the organisers had been refused a liquor licence despite advertising on some websites the 16+ event would serve alcohol.

A police spokeswoman confirmed no liquor licence had been granted and police did not know the event was on until they were called out.

She said promoters did not need to inform police of an event unless they applied for a liquor licence or intended to close off public streets.

But Mr Young said authorities should always be informed of such dance parties.

"I think what (the death) highlights is we do need to make sure the appropriate response organisations are at least aware of what is planned so that they can be ready to assist when and if issues happen," he said
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[EDIT: Link (News.com.au)]
 
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the news said that he died from an 'ecstacy overdose'.. but i think that's total bulls**t.

rumour going around at the party was that it was ghb. which is sad, and a little unexpected, but not totally unsuprising. unexpected because ghb dosn't really seem too common in the brissy rave scene (cuz you can't stomp on it!!), but unsuprisingly because the stuff is terribly dangerous.

there are other rumours going around that easter eggs laced with drugs were being handed out. also total bulls**t i reckon. there was a dude unassociated with the promoters, just a random punter dressed as an easter bunny handing out easter eggs, but i know a few people that ate one and were fine. if you've had a few vodkas, a heap of energy drinks and have been dancing around like an idiot then a little bit of chocolate will almost always make you feel a little sick.
 
^Just thought I would let you know, that it IS within the realms of possibility to die from an overdose on MDMA. Rare, but still very possible.
 
^^first of all, you can dance til the cows come home on g- it doesnt fuck you out unless you take to much - it fills you with energy.

No way was it pills, he was passed out - unconsious on the floor. I highly doubt it was MDxx related death. Generally when people die from E its a one off thing due to an alergy or something of that nature - not overdose.

Besides when he dropped it was SOOO early... i highly doubt he'd have had much at all. I'd say G was responsible, due to its 'new' thing up here - people are un aware of the dose response curve and other things about the drug in particular for how to 'keep safe' (as best you can when playing with fire).

My heart goes out to his family and friends - i'm sure none of them will wanna go out to a rave again. This is such sad, sad news. It's even worse that i saw the guy with my own eyes.
 
be careful what you say before you post i reckon (not in reference to anyone who's already said anything, but those who are going to post) - media will most likely read this forum as they have the inthemix.com.au forum. anything said will most likely be skewed to be as negative as possible, knowing the media.
 
^Thought I'd let you know, that it doesn't have to be an allergy for you to overdose and die from MDMA. Alot of the time it has been heart-related, or hypertension. After having a stroke, it is quite common to not be conscious after the lapse.
I'm not ruling out GHB either, because that could very well be the case. I am just also not going to rule out MDMA. There have been many more MDMA related deaths than your average Bluelighter might like to think.
Also, it is not uncommon for someone who is overdosing on stimulants to become violent in the midst of their attack. I couldn't see how anyone would become violent if they were overdosing on GHB as they would be just oblivious to their surroundings.

An MDMA overdose (or any other stimulant for that matter) sounds extremely painful. I know myself from surviving a meth overdose (255bpm resting heart rate), it would not be pleasant and could see how it could lead to violent reactions.
 
zaineaol.nu said:
I'd say G was responsible, due to its 'new' thing up here - people are un aware of the dose response curve and other things about the drug in particular for how to 'keep safe' (as best you can when playing with fire).
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G Has been in Brisbane just as long as it has anywhere else.
And if that is the culprit, just like anywhere else, responsibility falls on the user when the choice to dabble was made, not on the availability and general awareness alone.

This is obviously a mistake someone made and paid for dearly, that should never have happened.
 
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I was also at this rave and I also saw him getting taken away by ambulance. I'm at a loss as to how a tradegy like this could happen. From what i saw the event co-ordinators couldnt have done anymore to look after the patrons safety at this event. The medics were very professional and had specialised training in dealing with event related issues such as overdoses like this one. The medics were very approachable, professional, non-judgmental and had only the ravers best interests at heart.

People coming in with something that most would see as nothing serious like a headache or a bit of lightheadedness, were bombarded with questions, pulse readings, blood pressure readings, 'pupil dilation time'? readings and the like every 10 minutes. And if there was even the slightest tiniest minute chance that they might be in danger they would be taken to the hospital (2 minutes away) in an ambulance.

And the concern was not limited to just the medical staff at the event. For example I saw a group approached by some sort of event co-ordinator. He said one of the ravers had raised concern to him that a member of that group was stumbling a bit on the dance floor. He didnt harass them or hassle them with bullshit, his concern was for their friends safety and nothing else. He stressed the importance of taking that person to the medical room if he may have taken any drugs or if he was not feeling well and explained the role of the medical team and what not. The guy was alright, he'd just had a couple to many drinks and was a retard but what it demonstrated to me was the genuine concern and care both the ravers and rave organisers have for the safety of everyone.

I met the guy on the night who's in charge of the company that promotes this event. He was doing the rounds meeting and greeting making sure everyone was happy with the event and having a good time. He was a genuinely nice guy who cared about his patrons and i'm sure this mans death will take a great tole on him.

There were many great things at this event implemented in the interest of harm minimisation worthy of mention but i will not discuss them in fear that the media may use it and skew it as negative as possible (as starlet girl said). Instead of seeing these things as a step into the future in harm reduction the media would no doubt skew it into something its not.

And you can guarantee the media will turn this awesome, peaceful and safe event that was unfortunate enough to be burdened with this terrible tradegy into one of their ‘irresponsible drug fuelled parties and the people that go to them’ stories.


... A tradegy for this mans friends and family and a tradegy for the rave community.

My condolences to this mans family and friends.
 
Yeah was pretty messed up seeing him seize on the ground, while everyone just dances on to gabber.
Saw two stretcher incidents during the night and I left pretty early.
 
dances on to gabber? didn't it happen in the mainroom where they wernt playing gabber?

anyway, good post crinklecut. the mayhem team go out of their way to care for their punters and i feel really bad for them as well as the family that this has happened.
 
Any situation like this is a promoter’s worst nightmare, and is undoubtedly devastating to the family and friends of the deceased man. Can we stop the potential for a G overdose, or rare serious reaction to MDMA, etc? Probably not completely, however, risk review often influences regulation change, so there will certainly be some effort made. The area of event permits will also surely be looked at.

The question of why RaveSafe wasn't there has already been raised by authorities. Mayhem promoters had been approached several times in the past, but RS never received a reply. A Team Leader even discussed the issue with one of the promoters late last year, so they had RS contact details.

I'm not saying for a moment this would have definitely been avoided had a team attended. Some people will always overdo it regardless, and in all fairness, having not personally attended a Mayhem event, I can’t comment on whether the organisers had a sufficient safety net policy in place. Most people seem to feel they did, as aside from above comments of support, I've also heard glowing reports from several people who’ve attended past events.

There needs to be emphasis placed on getting major promoters together with harm reduction groups, medics and security to formulate improved event safety protocols. It would also require addressing peer issues, which will always be confronting – and which has been the biggest problem to date in getting people together on these issues. Such a feat would however demonstrate beyond doubt that event promoters are serious about the wellbeing of their customers, and could contribute greatly to avoiding future catastrophies and certainly aid in preserving the industry.
 
Well there were two incidents then.. one was in the gabber room. I saw the guy in the main room but that was about 2am.
 
Condolences, as others have said. I'm sure we'll hear more about this soon, including what drugs the young man took.

Long weekends are always a dangerous period with so many big parties on. As the other recent thread in Aus DD suggests, it's so important to not be afraid to consult medical assistance at these events when your friends are in trouble because this is what could happen.

:(
 
Also - i recently spoke to someone who knew him personally.

She informed me that he'd only taken a white mitsubishi tablet - and some sambuca.

She also told me that he'd been sick for the previous week leading up the the event - which leads me to suggest possibly he was on some kind of MDMA potentiating medication (ie: dxm from a cough syrup)?
 
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