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Special-T.B.K
20-02-2006, 14:54
Hi, I have read up on the website in the posts. I can get onto MD and I would like to take the plunge with the plunger. I do however have a few questions, that answers are not available in the forums:

1. Dosage range for a first time user, Male 65kg?

2. Can you cook MD straight up like Harry or is some preparation process due?

3. Anyways to rid the powder of any impurities that may be present besides Binders?

I am not a usual IV user but would like to instigate injecting MDMA.

SpecTBK=D

Xihias
20-02-2006, 18:11
I heard that injecting it isn't really worth it as it's comparable to other methods of ingestion.

hoptis
21-02-2006, 02:29
Hi, I have read up on the website in the posts.

Which posts? Have you done a search and had a good read of related threads? There has been a fair bit written about this on Bluelight and the consensus generally is that it is too intense to be pleasurable and comes with a significant amount of risk.

In particular, check out the first two threads.

The PhreeX Philez - INJECTING MDMA (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=72099)
Injecting MDMA (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=56330)
Can you shoot up Ecstasy? (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=242758)

Your first question is answered there, as are discussions related to your other two.

KemicalBurn
21-02-2006, 02:49
If its your first time, then dose yourself orally

Special-T.B.K
21-02-2006, 04:13
Yes Hoptis, I did actually look...

I did not see anything on Dosage for a 65kg Male (First time user on the Picks)

As for cooking powder I read a *watered down* method... No actual instruction- I have always been told if u injected water or air into your veins you can end up dead? I know there's water in your blood, but injecting it as WATER, not derived from food and drinks through bodily functionality....

As for Acids and other precursor chemicals used for extraction and purification I did not notice any of that...

I feel My questions are fair and upfront, just need upfront answers instead of poking around the bush!

SpecTBK=D

ayjay
21-02-2006, 05:33
Well - having read the threads Hoptis posted, I think all your answers are there:

Start off with a low dose (25mg or less). You'll need some fucking good scales to measure this though. Alternatively - measure out a reasonable oral dose and divide it into 8. Each 8th will be 10-25mg. You can try a dry split (spread powder onto 2ml graph paper - use squares covered to measure 8ths), or a wet split - dissolve powder into 2ml water and divide into 8 0.25ml doses. You need to use pre-prepared shots fairly soon or they will breed bacteria etc in them - or you could store them in the fridge, or just take any left over doses orally.

Mix up your shot using cold water. This will prevent semi-soluble binders and non-mdma fillers from entering the solution. Grind up the powder as fine as possible before adding water. There may be other actives/fillers present in the final mix if they are also water soluble - maybe some glucose at the very least. Not much you can do about that without a bit of a lab set-up.

Use a wheel filter to get rid of as much solid matter as possible. These are pretty easy to come by in Sydney and Melbourne, and I think Brisbane too. If you're going to do this, do it as safely as possible.

BTW - have you tried shafting the powder? This would remove the need to filter. Just dissolve up an amount similar to about 1/4 a pill in about 1ml of water, and gently squirt up your arse with a syringe (no needle) keeping your torso upright.

azzes
21-02-2006, 10:43
Just on a side note, injecting water (plastic ampules called 'water for injection'- just sterile water, I imagine), is not damaging to the body. Ie, in hospitals, some powdered drugs are mixed with this rather than saline for IV injection.

azzes
21-02-2006, 10:45
And air in the veins is not a good thing, although small air bubbles generally don't matter, apparently 10-20ml of air would be required to kill you. But unfortunately I can't contribute anything else to your questions.

Splatt
21-02-2006, 14:01
10ml is 1000 units, or 10 normal IV syringes full.
Bubbles aren't good, but you'd need quite a few to cause bad effect, unless your blood / vein network is full of shit already and you have a weak heart or something. A lot of people try killing themselves injetcing air but it fails. You'd probably be able to do it if you slam it is fast enough to cause vein damage with a full 3ml syringe of air.

aunty establishment
22-02-2006, 02:44
This is not something I would be racing out to try, for two good reasons:

1) The experience itself is less pleasant (from reports I've heard) than other methods of ingestion: rapid comeup followed by an overwhelming, potentially unpleasant peak, then a rapid, edgy comedown.

2) Unless you're getting the powder fresh from the kitchen (and remember the guidelines folks, no discussion on this :)), there may well be other substances in your MDMA powder that if IV'd would be very, very intense.

The one I've come across most commonly is ketamine - in Perth at least, dealers used to really enjoy cutting (fairly low dose, perhaps 50-60 mg at a retrospective guess) MD caps with a decent whack of K, so that the (orally ingested) experience was significantly different from the pills around at the time. IV ketamine hits you so fast you probably won't have time to get the fit out.

I guess to summarise, read PhreeX's guide but keep in mind that PhreeX was literally millimetres away from death at one time. Not a great role model for this mode of ingestion IMO.

Bent Mk2
22-02-2006, 02:49
Word of warning from a close friend who has done this...be there with someone else...it hits you so hard, so quickly that if you're not careful you'll fall over before you get the needle out.

And a word of advice from the friend who has done this, its seriously not worth it. It hits you too hard to be enjoyable, and it doesn't last long at all. And it hurts.

chugs
22-02-2006, 06:24
I've done it on several occasions and it's fucked, a waste and painful

1. The peak is unpleasant and the rush is unbearable, overwhelming. On more then one occasion I've gotten headaches that remind me of when i overdosed. so yes not nice.

It's really hard to get the dose right.

2. it's exhausting and you don't get the empothegenic rush that eating gives you. i can stress it enough. the its a complete waste, you spend ages preparing the shot. It also passes pretty quickly, like 30mins, leaving you feeling like shit.

3. unless you have pure MDMA powder your scaring your liver and pumping god knows what in your body

4. why waste good MDMA like that. If you want a fast hit then stick it up your ass.

5. for some reason the inject site takes a hammering. Its similar to what you read about when people are shooting up research chems.

the_ketaman
22-02-2006, 13:59
ive heard that its too much intensity rather than not enough, heard of a few seizures from this too.
youd wanna make sure ts completely pure MDMA powder (unlikely) coz MDMA with IV meth is bad enough both together would be...well its making me feel sick thinking about it.

cazad0r
23-02-2006, 16:56
hmm, i wanna try this now.. i think i will, just to see for myself what the fuss is about

jessiisxtc
23-02-2006, 17:30
Don't shoot xtc up seriously :/ If you're really looking for a good roll get a couple good pills take take some orally, blow some and I've never done it, but you could put one where the sun doesn't shine... I hear its supposed to be good...

Jzta
23-02-2006, 18:10
shooting up is stoopid.. just swallow it! stop being so creative..

psrich
23-02-2006, 18:20
it's a fucking excellent way to do it, lots of smaller but more frequent hits are better than one big hit. first time i did it (IV), i did a 1/4 of a gram banged straight up, i thought i was going to die for about 10 seconds. but all was well haha!

but yeah, smaller more frequent is preferable.

peaked
24-02-2006, 06:36
^^ 250mg?? I'd have thought a dose like that thru IV would be an overdose ..

Fry-d-
24-02-2006, 09:45
That does sound like a very dangerous dose to take via IV.

Immortal Teknique
24-02-2006, 10:33
Just from observation, sounds like there are alot of shit talkers in this thread. There are no medals for slamming the biggest amount and then being 6 feet under.

No one is going to praise you coz your a fucking tool and took too much because you thought you were cool and could handle it.

Samson
24-02-2006, 11:54
I have tried it many times, 50mg was the most i tried, and it does come on hard and fast, and smashes you, but it is not as nice as the slow come up when u take it orally. I wont use it iv anymore, i fact i dont IV anything anymore and havnt for many years.

psilocybescrewbens
26-02-2006, 06:43
i heard that if you make it half MDMA liquid/half o2(oxygen) you get REALLLLYYY high. u fucking moron, why not just eat the pill?
i saw a guy inject a pill (he boiled the whole pill into water on a spoon) and injected it. he said it was great, but he just sat in the kitchen for hours looking like he was going to pass out.
didnt look that fun

just eat it fool

psrich
26-02-2006, 20:32
^^ 250mg?? I'd have thought a dose like that thru IV would be an overdose ..

evidently not, we had a gram split 4 ways between 4 of us, so i estimate 250mg..maybe more maybe less

ayjay
27-02-2006, 01:23
^depends on purity. At 10% purity that would be 25mg... Also - "thought I was going to die for about 10s" is a kind of overdose. If you'd had half or less, your experience may have been more uniformly enjoyable.

Regardless - I think it's pretty clear that you don't need to IV very much MDMA for it to be too much. If you are determined to IV, start small - it's easy to add more later, but if you inject too much it's too late to do anything about it.

And don't forget all the other risks attendant with injecting - blood borne viruses, bacterial infections, dirty hits, vein damage etc. That's not to say that those risks can't be managed, but make sure you are making an informed choice.

If you want to get a bigger high than oral dosing, I still think it would be worth considering sticking it up your bum before moving straight to IV.

rangikahuta
27-02-2006, 07:03
Shooting MDMA is the best! If you haven't tried it you shouldn't pass judgement...

Special-T.B.K
28-02-2006, 04:42
Alot of Brain Farters in here... Following throught their Mouths.

Call me fool- you TOOL, Who said anything about injecting a pill? Not once was it mentioned by me it was mentioned by *noobs* and KNOBS....

once again Needle Stigma....

SpecTBK=D

Diacetylus
03-03-2006, 12:20
Alot of Brain Farters in here... Following throught their Mouths.

Call me fool- you TOOL, Who said anything about injecting a pill? Not once was it mentioned by me it was mentioned by *noobs* and KNOBS....

once again Needle Stigma....

SpecTBK=D
Huh? I didn't understand the top sentences.
As for the needle stigma, I don't think that is really the case. It's just not generally recommended because the consesus is shooting MDMA would be a highly unpleasurable experience.
To each, his own though...

SardonicNihilist
03-03-2006, 16:07
If you like the extreme eyes-rolling-back in-your head, uncontrollable jaw wobbles, lack of vision etc. from MDMA then you will like IV. Instead of waiting the hour or two it takes for a strong dose of MDMA to kick in when taken orally, this is just compressed into 5 seconds. Not recommended for a party where you want to socialise or dance to music without stumbling around like a zombie, but at a house it`s a great way to `rush balls` Obviously it`s a bit of a waste as it wears off really quickly as well, but I for one think it`s a great experience. Best to do it as your first dose of MDMA for the night, the effects are nowhere near as intense if you IV after eating a few pills earlier in the night (or day).

Special-T.B.K
04-03-2006, 02:58
Huh? I didn't understand the top sentences.
As for the needle stigma, I don't think that is really the case. It's just not generally recommended because the consesus is shooting MDMA would be a highly unpleasurable experience.
To each, his own though...

Just alot of *I Know's*.... I want replies from people that have experienced it that's all, unless it's a comment like I wouldn't do it... instead hearing a whole lot of *Your Stupid* etc....

SpecTBK=D

bRiSvEgAs4lIfE
06-03-2006, 03:54
I have done it before a few times now using mdma crystals and it is not much fun, as much as I hate reinforcing the stigma that surrounds IV use on this board it is just not worth it. The only way I can think to describe the experience is uncomfortable, it just doesn't feel right, sorry I can't be more objective but thats the way it felt for me.

If you are going to try it, make sure to do it on a night where you are not going out as I found that once the feeling wore off (about 20 minutes) I was in a bad mood for the rest of the night and didn't feel like doing anything, the people I was doing it with felt the same way.

pure dope
06-03-2006, 04:02
IV'ing mdma can almost be to intense that you dont actually enjoy it, personally i love the feeling but i have friends who will never inject mdma ever again! me on the other hand....... :)