diacetyldeath
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I've heard so many opinions and quasi-facts on this subject that I just wanted to get some legitimate information. The search engine didn't help -- more of the above.
If some people could post here that could include their source, or describe the reasoning behind their claim, I would appreciate it.
The question: How do opioids and amphetamines interact? Specifically, adderall, which is two salts of d-amphetamine and two salts of racemic amphetamine.
I've heard everything from the threat of heart failure because of conflicting "messages" from one's brain to the complete lack of a threat, "amphetamines and opioids are just as dangerous as amphetamines on their own."
I understand that they work on two different nervous systems (parasympathetic and sympathetic), and so they do not "cancel each other out." That fact seems to lend credence to a lack of interaction. However, there is this huge stigma attached to doing speedballs and everything that I imagined there could be a grain of truth underneath all the bullshit.
Specifically, I'm not asking about speedballs. I'm asking about using both opioids and amphetamines in a single day. For example, I used an opioid this morning around 7:30. I then enjoyed some adderall (10-15mg) at around 10:30AM. I've done this in the past, and it doesn't seem to introduce any undue wear and tear.
How about spaced closer together? Like, the amphetamines 1-1.5 hours after the opioid? Or alternating, e.g. opioid, 1-1.5 hours, amphetamines, 2-3 hours, opioids, 1-1.5 hours, amphetamines, etc. It doesn't seem like the best idea to me, but I want to understand why.
Any information is appreciated.
If some people could post here that could include their source, or describe the reasoning behind their claim, I would appreciate it.
The question: How do opioids and amphetamines interact? Specifically, adderall, which is two salts of d-amphetamine and two salts of racemic amphetamine.
I've heard everything from the threat of heart failure because of conflicting "messages" from one's brain to the complete lack of a threat, "amphetamines and opioids are just as dangerous as amphetamines on their own."
I understand that they work on two different nervous systems (parasympathetic and sympathetic), and so they do not "cancel each other out." That fact seems to lend credence to a lack of interaction. However, there is this huge stigma attached to doing speedballs and everything that I imagined there could be a grain of truth underneath all the bullshit.
Specifically, I'm not asking about speedballs. I'm asking about using both opioids and amphetamines in a single day. For example, I used an opioid this morning around 7:30. I then enjoyed some adderall (10-15mg) at around 10:30AM. I've done this in the past, and it doesn't seem to introduce any undue wear and tear.
How about spaced closer together? Like, the amphetamines 1-1.5 hours after the opioid? Or alternating, e.g. opioid, 1-1.5 hours, amphetamines, 2-3 hours, opioids, 1-1.5 hours, amphetamines, etc. It doesn't seem like the best idea to me, but I want to understand why.
Any information is appreciated.