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MaliceNwunderland
16-05-2005, 01:35
Got pulled over a little while and the cop wanted to test my sobriety. I wasn't worried because all I had did was smoke weed and drink 2 beers at about 1pm and it was 11pm when I was administered the "tests".

Walked a line fine.

Counted fine.

Told him I would take a breathilizer...

That pobally made him suspicious..he started doin the whole stare at my pen light thing and informed me that my pupils were reacting in a strange way... "and ya know that is indicative of drug usage."

I told him that he was makin me nervous and shining a light in my eyes and that would also make my pupils react...

He let me go, but what the hell?

Are cops really ascertaining anything with that test? Or is it just head games?

Xpalafetti
16-05-2005, 15:55
He was right you can tell if someone is on substances by pupil dialation.

Since you passed most of the tests and weren't a jerk he probably figured you were'nt that imparied to drive.

Or he figured you were high and was like fuck the paper work.

Remember

A cop is just an average joe like you and me doing his 8 hour job.

Especailly the young cops coming out of college who's friends and dads and shit are useers.

frizzantik
16-05-2005, 18:57
When cops shine the light in your eyes they are checking for pupil size changes. if your pupils remain very dialated or become pinpointed, both are signs of drug use.

when they have you follow their pen, they are looking at how your eyes track the pen. when youre drunk, your eyes will wiggle and seem to not follow the pen exactly. when you're stoned, your eyes will tend to go from one position to the next in a jerky as opposed to smooth manner. even if you feel sober, these things can give you away.

PottedMeat
16-05-2005, 22:08
^^^
This is referred to as the Nystagmus Gaze test. It has been shown to not be very reliable as the twitching of the eyes can be caused by various other medically proven factors such as a prior traumatic brain injury.

BingeBoy
16-05-2005, 23:08
^
yes i have had jerky eyes all my life.

forgotten
17-05-2005, 00:40
The good ol' unreliable HGN test. I have marked nystagmus at 0, while dead sober, and a doctors note that says such.

Most of the time, when a cop tells you that your pupils are reacting in a strange manner, he is trying to get you to make some sort of confession. Just tell him you don't know what he is talking about, and leave whatever happens from that point on to your attorney.

Banquo
17-05-2005, 00:44
"I had to wake up early for work today" or "I was reading a lot today" seems to work when it comes to suspicious eyes. The whole thing seems more like an exercise in intimidation than anything else -- because some people get dilating pupils merely from having the flu or feeling nervous before an exam.

groovee
17-05-2005, 02:10
One thing to watch out for: I got pulled over in Maine once doing 80 in 35. The po po gave me a field sobriety test and then brought me to the station. After repeated brethalyzers that I passed, a younger gung ho po po wanted to piss test me. According to them, they could tell if I has poked smot that morning and could bust me for a dwi on mj. I did not get drug tested and was released later that night.

Don't know if it is bs or not but bears thinking about.

-=ReD-hAzE=-
23-05-2005, 06:37
Yeah, they call it possession through comsumption. Tricksy polices.

ClubbinGuido
24-05-2005, 01:03
Cops are pissing me off when they shine a light in my eyes.

fairnymph
24-05-2005, 20:01
f your pupils remain very dialated or become pinpointed, both are signs of drug use.
The first part is correct but the NORMAL response of pupils to bright light is to contract, so pinpoint pupils would be a sign of normality, not drug use.

StigmaShadow
24-05-2005, 20:52
*getting a bit off topic, but looking for a post in this subject*

Why is it some drugs make your eyes pinpoint, and some dilate?

fairnymph
25-05-2005, 21:18
Drugs which stimulate the parasympathetic nervous system (ex, opiates) cause pupil contraction.

Drugs which stimulate the sympathetic nervous system (ex, MDMA) cause pupil dilation.

The PNS and SNS generally work in opposition to each other. SNS is responsible for sex/fight/flight type activities, PNS for resting and digesting.

~*geNeRaTiOn E*~
26-05-2005, 02:44
a cop did that to me once, took my pulse too. fuccin bitch!

Slay
26-05-2005, 14:59
Originally posted by fairnymph
The first part is correct but the NORMAL response of pupils to bright light is to contract, so pinpoint pupils would be a sign of normality, not drug use.

Your right. But if your pupils become pinpoint because of an opiate or somethin, it would be smaller than a normal light reacted pupils. Any narc can figure out the differences between the narcotized pupils and the ones sthat reacted to the light.

Endless Night
18-09-2005, 06:06
Originally posted by Xpalafetti
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Especailly the young cops coming out of college who's friends and dads and shit are useers.

hahahahah

CreativeRandom
18-09-2005, 08:40
To the young user who mentioned the threat of a drug test at the station. Can anyone remark if cops can actually do that? Then again, 80 in a 35 may have been an arrestable crime and you did not mention anything about what happened with the whole speed demon issue.

Some cop flashlights have built in breathalyzers, extremely fine tuned and sensitive. On the back of the flashlight, toward their view, there is a reading showing if any alcohol is present in the air.

Khadijah
18-09-2005, 20:11
Originally posted by Xpalafetti
Remember

A cop is just an average joe like you and me doing his 8 hour job.

Especailly the young cops coming out of college who's friends and dads and shit are useers.


average joe's love to fuck peope over for things they didnt do and fuck up the course of the next several years of other average joes lives right.

Anyways imma say you wrong about the young cops thing, its the exact opposite, the young cops are the ones with something to prove. THEY are the ones who will fuckk with you real bad, cuz they want those arrests. they he ones who will nail you on somethign you didnt do, saying some bullshit claim that he smells weed on you when you aint smoked in a week, etc.

the OLD ones already been on the force, already had their shining moment as the young narcotix officer makin his big bust and gettin a promotion, and THEY the ones who just say, i coudl arrest you right now but i dont wanna do the paperwork so heres a warnin now get the fuck out.


As far as the flashlight shit goes, thats all power trippin. YES they do it cuz of checkin for drugs alcohol, etc. and the movenemt and reaction of your eyes, but ever notice they do it to fuckin EVERYBODY? if you get pulled over at night, that light is goin in ya eyes.

well maybe i dont know but i never had a time, sober or fucked up, but most of the times DEAD SOBER that that shit been in my eyes.

but shit they even do it to my MOMS man. she got pulled over, for driving with her highbeams on. on a wide open road where you NEED highbeams.

that was teh charge they had aaginst her.

the real reason was she was driving a nice lil black Honda Civic at 1am and looked like a teenager from behind.

so he pulled her over shined that shit in her eyes asked her if she had any drugs he should search for, all this shit. she fuckin 45 man. she look young for her age like 30 but not THAT young, shiiit.

they fucked with her hardcore then wrote her a 100-somethin dollar ticket for driving with highbeams. and yep it was a young ass cop looked fresh outta the police academy..

anyways the whjole point of that was the do the flashlight shit to everyone. to fuck with you and make you nervous. they try and get your nrevousness on their side hoping youll fuck up.

CreativeRandom
18-09-2005, 21:13
You can't get in trouble for driving with highbeams on! I've flashed many cops with highbeams hiding in spots and they don't do shit.... or they tell me that wasn't the reason they pulled me over.

Challenge it!

lacey k not all flashlights have built in breathalyzers. This is how they check for alcohol though. If you just took some mouthwash or cold medicine it'll show up.

It has been said that "It takes a certain kind of person to become a cop". Disputable?

Khadijah
18-09-2005, 23:02
^Theres a couple types of cops.

The ones who go in the force cuz they relaly believe they are helping and wanna 'make the world a better place''

The good ol boys types who in it cuz they daddy was in it and they jsut run the town

the kids who got picked on and beat up and treated bad and bullied as a kid so now they are getting their revenger by fuckin with people, alot of times its this kind that does the beatings and uses excessive forece etc

and then the righteous ass ones whose mom or dad got killed by drug dealers in a driveby, or whose baby sister dated a gang member and sucked her into the life and she died early cuz of it, or their dad was a cop killed on the job and now they got to go in the police force to make it right again and avenge somebodys death, etc. by gettings all those slimey terrible criminals and drug users/dealers locked away

so it does take a certain type of person. just like it takes a certain type of person to join the military. maybe they got good intentions for whatever thye think the purpose is but overall you CANT be too intelligent to be a cop because if you were you would see all the shit thats comepletey insane about the laws and penalties and the way they treat ppl, and ridiculousness of it all, any truly open mind - drug user or criminal OR not - can see that shit.
it dont take someone who breaks the law to see that the laws fucked up. also you gotta have that group mentality and be willing to go in for "the cause" etc. and basically maybe it aint completely get brainwashed (in the armys case it IS brainwashing) but to be a "do what they tell me respect the rules " type of person also

Anyways, yea, that highbeams thing, that some shit aint it. My ma did challenge it court aint came up yet doe.

CreativeRandom
19-09-2005, 06:01
Cops do their job, and follow the law. I do not see anything wrong with a cop busting drug users. They are following the will of the majority of the community.

Action needs to be taken to the legislature. Getting a large base of support in your community and harangueing your government representatives will do something. To change the system, work it.

States have every right to make a drug legal, these drug laws at a federal level are unconstitutional. The federal government has three purposes: Protect the country from foreign sources, regulate money, and enforce the constitution. All other powers are reserved to the states. I would love for a governor to enforce his rights and challenge the federal government, despite federal legislation.

I don't think it takes a type to join the military. For many it is an only option for a future.

MaliceNwunderland
19-09-2005, 07:22
Cops do their job, and follow the law.

Not too tough when the law holds them to a lower standard than an average citizen.


I do not see anything wrong with a cop busting drug users. They are following the will of the majority of the community.

Why does the community get so much authority over my private life?



I don't think it takes a type to join the military. For many it is an only option for a future.

Who's only option is being a mercenary? I've never met anyone who had trouble getting a job that didn't involve killing people...

CreativeRandom
20-09-2005, 06:17
I do not see any problems with a cop busting drug users. Please read what I say and take it as being concrete.

I DO have a problem with a federal govenment ignoring the 10th amendment by making a law by unconstitutional means.

it is a power reserved to the state. If the people of New York vote to put people in jail for life for looking at marijuana, than I have no problem as it is constitutional.

However, I do not think the majority of any community would do that, so I doubt we have to worry about that!

People may not have trouble getting a job, but they do have trouble paying for college or an educaiton. It is also a relatively good job with a promising future, much room for promotion, that one can join with almost no questions asked.

gravityflux
21-09-2005, 08:51
when i drank some tea one night, datura heh. the cop was asking why my eyes were dialated to where i had no color in my eye other than black (my eyes are usually blue). i told him i take adderall for my adhd. i dont think he believed me though. because i could not even sit in the chair he had me cuffed to hahaa

jml0423
21-09-2005, 08:55
also they shine the light in your eye so you are temporarly blinded, so they can see whats in your car and to make sure your not trying to pull a gun on them or some crazy shit

247
25-09-2005, 01:28
Originally posted by MaliceNwunderland
Who's only option is being a mercenary? I've never met anyone who had trouble getting a job that didn't involve killing people...

now you're just being biased. you think people can fund college like you can? for some the only way to get a higher chance at education is to join the army or navy, where such luxuries are paid for in return for service

MaliceNwunderland
25-09-2005, 02:58
Originally posted by 247
now you're just being biased. you think people can fund college like you can? for some the only way to get a higher chance at education is to join the army or navy, where such luxuries are paid for in return for service

Oh yeah applying for grants and scholarships, getting up to my ass in debt and working full time is real luxurious.... talkin to me like I got a trust fund or some shit... of course I'm bias, just not like that.

I don't see an option in compromising my morals for my personal advancement. Killing people for money is something I could not bring myself to do, no matter how much the government says it's ok.

247
25-09-2005, 03:02
maybe you should save your drug money and use it productively then

MaliceNwunderland
25-09-2005, 03:27
Oh now I get it! You're a total fuckin idiot and a troll!

You achieved your goal of making an ass out of yourself and derailing my thread. Please move along now.

247
25-09-2005, 03:40
don't get mad at because you use your hard-earned full-time-job money on getting high

CreativeRandom
25-09-2005, 05:32
Not all people can get scholarships or grants, for many different reasons. Some see ROTC as an option, others don't. Regardless, it is something everyone should consider.

You don't need to kill in the armed forces. There are many jobs, perhaps as many and varied as in the private business sector.

247 you were making good points but I think I lost all my respect for you when you made that personal attack on MaliceNwunderland. That was completely uncalled for, and totally unsubstantial. It's one thing if MaliceNwunderland had said he spends all his drug money on drugs, but he didn't. That was very wrong thing to say and totally unsubstantial, which is probably the worst part.

Reminds me of liberals and their political attacks with no support, as well as their views which have been proven wrong by history. Little off topic though...

StagnantReaction
25-09-2005, 20:57
Please don't feed the troll..

Ketamike
29-09-2005, 05:28
Originally posted by lacey k
so he pulled her over shined that shit in her eyes asked her if she had any drugs he should search for, all this shit. she fuckin 45 man. she look young for her age like 30 but not THAT young, shiiit.

Kate... post some pics of your moms... you got me interested


247... lame... didn't you quit this website a while back?

the hooligans
05-10-2005, 05:19
just checking your pupil`s, of course.