3am curfew in Brisbane

Hi guys,

I don't know if it is appropriate to post this here as it is not directly drug related. I understand if it's against BL guidelines. It does however affect people living in Brisbane who love to go to the Valley area. The proposal for a 3am curfew follows the stabbing of a young man in the CBD just a few weeks ago at a city club. (He was allegedly killed for his shoes). The proposed 3am curfew extends to bars and clubs in the Valley as well!

Although the proposal is designed to increase patron safety, I think it could lead to numerous other problems...crazier cab queues, getting stuck outside when your friends are inside, reduced income for local clubs/ bars, etc. As far as I have heard in news reports recently it seems the most problematic patron behaviours have not occured in the valley. But, this aside, it seems hard to believe that introduction of a curfew is the best way to go about increasing safety.

It really is such a backward approach to solving drunken violence in the city!! What do you guys think? And isn't it funny how this time they are focussing more on the 'drunk' issue more than the drugs (which is more the culture in the Valley) What other measures have been taken in other cities to resolve this type of thing and have they worked?

There is a link below to sign a petition against the proposed curfew for those who would like to (even those who don't live in the Sunshine state who may be interested...this goes straight to government to indicate opposition to the proposed lock out.

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/EPetitions_QLD/cgi-bin/Petitions.cgi?PetNum=457

Once again sorry if this against the posting guidelines, but I think its a pretty relevant topic of discussion none-the-less...

cheers

This is a good post and I hope nobody here on BL has any worries with it. I agree with you that the 3am curfew is the wrong way to go about fixing the current problems in the Brisbane City area.

The recent stabbing where the guy was "allegedly killed for his shoes" was totally misreported and couldn't have been further from the truth. Here is not the place to discuss why the incident took place but lets just take a moment to think back at what time the stabbing actually took place... hmm... about 3:30am... just after most people had left the club.

It doesn't matter if you close at 3am or 5 am, there are still going to be problems. Another point to bring up is that persons under the influence of either illicit drugs or alcohol are often easily irritated. If they're trying to get back into a club after the lock out time of 3am, they're going to be pissed off very quickly by the bouncer at the door refusing him/her entry and it's not going to take much from a passer by or the bouncer to get the patron swinging.

This is just a half baked idea dreamed up by the Beatie government to get people back indoors, not to fix any voilence problems.

Please sign the petition above so hopefully we'll keep the right to change clubs right up until 5am



hmm... I'm so FRANKED

sum clubs have had a petition for people to sign against the curfew. i dont like the idea of a 3am curfew as we only head out at about 11/ 11.30.

By the way guys i just looked at the petition and the closing date is 14/04/05 - tomorrow....so start signing!

good idea to sign that petition in the link from the first post people....... if your in Brisbane.
Theres 4000 and osmething at the moment.
more signatures the better.
copy the link and email it to ya mates. this has been circulating emails for a while now.

yep i got the petition a while back in a 'family nightclub' email... get signing guys!! i really hate going gold coast clubbing for this very reason. once it hits the valley its really gonna suck!

Already signed it.

But with that said, I live up in Brisbane but am down the gold coast a lot because I got a house down there, and the 3am lockout has been down the coast for a while now. It works fine and everyone just accepts that once it hits 3am then you all just stay in untill places close.

Thing is, in Brisbane its a bit different. Imagine being at the exchange and wanting to pop over to the vic just for a quick chat to a mate but its 3:30am, yeh?

My thinking is that once its in place, everyones gonna complain in the beginning but it does have its advantages, or else they wouldn't be implementing it. Eventually everyone will just get over it and accept it for just another thing to follow.

Thats just me though because I'm too used to the Goldie having it.

Not saying that I want it in place, hell I'd be right along side any one of yous who signed the petition but that if it goes through I'm just gonna brush it off.

My 2c

EDIT: well actually, i just realised, no more hopping out of Family and going into No.12 for free water after 3am... so maybe i will be angry when this comes into place

I signed it online a while ago.
I tried to sign the bloody thing at a well known brisbane nightclub but was in a k-hole and ended up printing my first name in the middle of the sheet.

WHAT A STUPID FUCKING IDEA.....

bloody banana benderz


In Northbridge, Perth, WA
I THINKthey have a curfew for the underage aboriginal (im not rasist but they seem to be the trouble makerz and the asian gangs) youths who wander around seemlessly looking for trouble..

I think this sucks, but as far as the city violence affecting the valleys closing times issue goes, dont you think its better if they are both the same, because even if its the city which has the problems, if the valley doesnt have the curfew and the city does, there will be an influx of drunk wankers trekking down to the valley after they're locked out of the city clubs, or maybe theyll stop going to the city full stop, and it will change the element of the valley even more.

Signed.

Ps, we have 2pm lockout and 3am close where i live now, and it doesnt work, just pushes everyone out on the street on mass drunk and still wanting to party, therefore very messy and asking for trouble. Not the answer.

Prozac milkshake...yeah, exactly! look at the night life in melbourne...everything is open 24/7...by bringing in a curfew we are taking this already backward state even more backward (no offence to qld'ers ) but it's true!! some of the greatest cities in the world have a myriad of things happening at once at any time of the day or night, how will brisbane grow if we are taking a 50's approach like this one?

What it meant for the north coast (when our beloved "undies" club closed down and everything from then on finished at 3am) was the advent of spontaneous 3:30am house parties; a trend which continues to this day. If you suddenly hear music cranking out of nowhere in the middle of the night, a look at the clock usually confirms that it's just past closing time.

The thing is, around this area the police are usually on a skeleton staff at this time, particularly during week days. This often means that no matter how much the neighbours complain, the cops sometimes don't arrive until 7am or later.

But it's something party people will need to get used to. Rumor has it that even the Gold Coast will eventually be cursed with this ruling. But one has to ask; have the conservatives actually won anything? Most hard-lined party people don't go to bed earlier, they simply party elsewhere, and from personal experience, for longer than they would if they'd left the club at 5:00am

...reminds me of that ol' dance track line;

What'll we do if they took our love away, what will we do....?

my experience has been that in general - ppl leave the places in the city before the valley as it is. I've seen ppl leave clubs in the valley after the sun was allready well and truly up but I've never seen ppl stay that long in the city. I would hazard a guess that there is a correlation with the average drug of choice and staying time in the club.

I reckon that this doesn't really change all that much in the city as most ppl start going home around that time as it is. But in the valley (where this kind of problem is less common) ppl will be forced to go home early because of the drunk city wankers. Howabout - instead of taking meausures that are fairly obviously going to cause other problems - the authorites give seccies more rights to search ppl - or make more comprehensive searches compulsary at the door. What the hell was that guy doing in the city with a knife?

Also could we define wat exactly is being propsed in brisbane. Some posts suggest that at 3am everyone will be forced to go home. Others suggest that at 3am passouts will no longer issued. There is a fairly hefty difference.

Nice Tits

As far as I know, the lockout is happening so that if you exit a club after 3am or try to enter a club after then, you will be denied access.

Just in the interest of clearing up some confusion, the guy who died (allegedly over shoes) got PUNCHED out, the stabbing was a week or so later. (im pretty certain... i know friends of the 'shoes dude').

Another problem with this lock out in the valley is that clubs on the strip on brunswick street have half their cleintele sitting outside. since people in these seating areas are 'outside' they, theoretically, wont be able to drink since they wont be allowed inside to buy drinks, and a lot of these clubs probably cant fit all these seated people into their clubs at 3am when the rest of the people in the valley trys to cram in as well.

And also, will everybody caught OUTSIDE in the lockdown be shuffled off home by the few police that are around, or just left to their own devices on the streets?

This really wouldnt be good for the valley. the valley is a totally different environment to the city, the nightlife really extends out to the outside quite a lot, and if people are herded off home at 3am that want to be outside, well that will just be the start of the decline. i can certainly see random 330am parties starting for sure as phase dancer said.

It seems to me that if you shut people out of clubs at 3am but dont force them to go home (through police intervention) then violence would only go UP, right? lots of pissed, pissed off (not to mention drugged up) people left on the streets to share their anger.

I generally roam club to club all night, talking and meeting up with people all over the place... i wouldnt mind to much if i'm allowed to hang around outside with people till 5 when the other people come out... but i dont see this being allowed.

I missed the petition. maybe theres some other way a message can be sent to Beattie...

Hi, I live in Cairns in NTH QLD...

We have a 3am lockout (cant get into anymore clubs) and a 5am closing time. I think this is what they are introducing in Brisbane. Not a 3am close.

However the majority of the big clubs in Cairns have bought back their *no lockout* licenses.

SpecTBK

im not sure if someones already mentioned this but what about the day clubs 'recovery clubs'.. im not from bris so im not very sure about the clubs there but if its as big as iv heard there's bound to be one of the clubs that run from midnight till midday... does anyone know?

yeah, there is one day club that i know of, possibly two (If the one i'm thinking about hasn't closed which i suspect it has..), however I am unsure of the deal with these clubs and whether they'll be forced to close. Also there is a 24hr licensed cafe in the Valley..will this have to adhere to the 3am curfew? And how about the Casino?

Lastly, I think someone has already raised this topic, but in the Valley especially there are quite a few clubs with outdoor seating (in Brunswick st). What happens to the outside patrons when it's 3am and they would like more drinks from that particular club but they are not allowed back in?

^^ well i guess all will be found out this friday night when it starts

lol think i will give going out a miss for a little while, at least until everyone gets used to the idea of the lockout. Can imagine the first few weeks will be quite chaotic...