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Datura - The Wonder Cure

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Datura - Cancer Cure?

Just reading the Western Rag in WA this morning and there is an article about a possible cure for asbestos related mesothelioma.
A mouse that was affected by mesothelioma was "fed a diet of drugs made from compounds extracted from an introduced noxious weed called devil's apple."

According to erowid thats a pseudonym for datura.

The mouse is not only cured, but when reinfected its malignant tumour regressed again.
Pre-clinical and possible clinical tests are planned for next year. Researchers supsect "it could be used against other incurable cancers."


My thoughts on this include...
1. The mouse may be alive but I bet he believes and/or wishes he was dead.
2. Even cancer doesnt want anything to do with datura ;)


Couldnt find a link online to the article for those interested sorry. And I'm to lazy to type out in entirety unless requested.

The compound specifically extracted and used is coramsine (i dont think this is one of the psychoactive elements making my above quips invalid I realise) Very interesting none the less.
 
Many of the most noxious or poisonous plants - or their constituents - are used in medicine. Just because a plant has substances which can kill or trip people out forever, it doesn't mean it's automatically branded 'No Good' and certainly doesn't imply it can't offer some life sustaining compound.

Below is a list of chemicals found in datura. It's quite possible more have been discovered since this list was compiled

From Dr Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases


Jimsonweed or Datura Stramonium

Chemicals

3ALPHA,6BETA-DITIGLOYLOXYTROPANE Plant:

4-HYDROXYLUBIMIN Plant:

ACETIC-ACID Plant:

ACETONE Leaf:

ACONITIC-ACID Plant:

ALKALOIDS Fruit 4,600 ppm; Leaf 2,500 - 5,100 ppm Plant 1,000 - 5,000 ppm Root 2,100 ppm; Seed 5,000 - 1,000 ppm Stem 2,500 - 2,600 ppm

ALPHA-KETO-GLUTARIC-ACID Plant:

APOATROPINE Plant:

ASCORBIC-ACID Plant:

ATROPAMINE Plant:

ATROPINE Plant 800 - 1,000 ppm

ATROPINESTERASE Plant:

BUTANOL Leaf:

CAFFEIC-ACID Plant:

CAPSIDOL Plant:

CHLOROGENIC-ACID Plant:

CITRIC-ACID Plant 750 ppm;

CUSCOHYGRINE Leaf:

DATUGEN Plant:

DATUGENIN Plant:

DITIGLOYL-D-DEHYDROXYTROPANE Plant:

EO Leaf 450 ppm;

ESCULETIN Plant:

ETHANOL Plant:

FAT Seed 150,000 - 300,000 ppm

FERULIC-ACID Plant:

FLURODATURATINE Plant:

FORMALDEHYDE Plant:

FORMIC-ACID Plant:

FUMARIC-ACID Plant:

GALACTOSE Leaf:

GLUCOSE Leaf:

GLYCOLIC-ACID Plant:

HOMOFLURODATURATINE Plant:

HYOSCINE Leaf 550 - 2,500 ppm Seed 1,200 - 5,000 ppm

HYOSCYAMINE Seed 80 - 490 ppm

ISOBUTYRALDEHYDE Plant:

LACTIC-ACID Plant:

LIGNOCERIC-ACID Plant:

LINOLEIC-ACID Seed 22,500 - 45,000 ppm

MALIC-ACID Plant 2,120 ppm;

METELOIDINE Leaf:

METHANOL Leaf:

NEO-CHLOROGENIC-ACID Plant:

NICOTINE Plant:

OLEIC-ACID Seed 93,000 - 186,000 ppm

PALMITIC-ACID Seed 15,000 - 30,000 ppm

POTASSIUM-NITRATE Plant:

PROPIONALDEHYDE Plant:

PROTEIN Seed 140,000 - 194,000 ppm

PUTRESCINE Plant:

RUTIN Plant:

SCOPIN Plant:

SCOPOLAMINE Seed 53 - 3,050 ppm

SCOPOLETIN Plant:

SCOPOLIN Plant:

SITOSTEROL Seed:

SOPHOROSE Leaf:

STEARIC-ACID Plant:

SUCCINIC-ACID Plant:

TANNIN Plant 70,000 ppm;

TIGLOYLMETELOIDIN Plant 5 - 25 ppm

UMBELLIFERONE Plant:

VITASTRAMONOLIDE Plant:
 
I actually agree with you both. Datura is one of the stupidest things to take recreationally, both in terms of your health and your street cred. Every year we get get a slew of morons who pitch up in the ED, off their tits, with bits of flowers hanging out of the corner of their mouths... think cows on acid:\
But their might be something medicininally useful there. Foxglove may lethal, but it was the original source of the cardiac glycoside digitalis, which is now the basis of digoxin, a phenomenally popular drug in the treatment of atrial fibrillation
 
@sonicnature
Shit, no plant is bad. Actually I don't even know what bad is supposed to mean... like selfish? Well, then we're all bad or evolution wouldn't have let us come this far, right?
It's stupid to think there is no use for a plant like Datura... 8(
Anyway, I wouldn't take it recreationally either...

Btw Aspirin can give you next day deafness, permanantly actually, not exactly a pleasant phenomenom either.

crOOk
 
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Thank you so much for this information phase_dancer and drplatypus, as well as yes'm for starting this off. As my uncle has limited time left due to mesothelioma, I'm sure I don't need to elaborate just how important this glimmer of information/hope is. *and off a researching I go*.

Naturally, if anyone comes across any additional information PLEASE post it up and/or PM it to me. (I hope against hope for speedy clinical trials, but working for biotec's have taught me otherwise... :(

Thank you
 
@miss slingshot
What are you going to do now? Please keep us updated on this!

crOOk
 
Fruits of the devil deliver cancer wonder drug

Organisation/Individual:
Solbec Pharmaceuticals Ltd ( )

A fruit bearing weed found in the wild is being harnessed by Perth Biotechnology Company Solbec as a cure for deadly cancers, such as mesothelioma.

The fruit, known as the Devil's Apple (soladum linnaeanum [edit- I think this is a typo, I think they meant Solanum linnaeanum, or, the Apple of Sodom]) grows on a highly toxic weed, and it's this high toxicity that is killing incurable cancer cells.

The Devil's Apple is processed in Solbec's Osborne Park laboratory, to produce the drug SBP 002. The company has applied for orphan drug status due to the encouraging results to date. This means the drug could reach the market within 6 months of trials commencing.

The chance of orphan drug status is the reason Solbec chose to target the incurable Asbestos related lung cancer methoselioma, as there is no drug currently on the market for this disease.

Solbec Managing Director, Mr Stephen Carter, said that SBP 002 was a phenomenal drug that was now entering phase 1 human trials.

"In 60% of patients the tumour has been reduced and their sense of well being has increased.

We have seen in testing that once the drug comes in contact with the cancer cells, the cells are destroyed within 5 seconds.

We have treated over 50 people, under the Federal Special Access Scheme, with the drug. In the majority off these cases the cancer has reduced the tumour down to an operable size, with all but one patient responding to some extent."

The Solbec collection of photos features these cancers, many of them human facial tumours reaching up to 19 kilos in mass, and they have all been treated with the drug SBP 002.

"Most of the people we have treated have been given months to live. One woman was given three months to live. She is still alive and the cancer has been reduced.

We knew the drug worked when it came in contact with cancer cells, the next step was to use it internally. The system we have developed involves injecting the drug directly into the heart, so it can work its way through the blood stream.

The trials have successfully shown that the drug only targets cancer cells. Mice were injected with mesothelioma, and then with the drug. After one injection 30% of the mice were cured. After 3 injections 80% of the mice were cured."

In clinical testing on humans to date, there have been no recorded major side effects due to the drug. The reason may be related to the plant itself, which was introduced into Australian in the 1800s and is a member of the nightshade family (which includes potatoes, tomatoes and eggplants).

"Human beings have been exposed to low levels of this drug all our lives through potatoes and tomatoes, with the exact same compound present in eggplants. We believe this helps keep side affects to minority, such as headaches and nausea."

The company is opening a new plant in Baldivis to grow up to 6000 of the plants. Innovative company Bioscience has been commissioned to run the horticultural side of the operation. With the plant relatively inexpensive to grow, and maintain, this is a major advantage for Solbec in commercialising the drug.

The fruit is picked from the plant when ripe, with the plant maintained to produce fruit all year, with one tree producing up to 30 grams of the drug.

This compares favourably with current cancer drugs that require plantations of trees to produce a similar amount. Current drugs are considered only 20% affective in killing cancers, with these drugs worth 3 billion dollars.

For this reason Solbec is targeting the lucrative US and European markets.

"Orphan drug status has results in drugs entering the market within 3 months. SBP 002 will be trialed in the US and Australia on methoselioma patients, and those with metastatic cancers that have spread through the body. This may fast track the drug to market due to its substantial benefit to the community.

Hopefully we can then form an alliance with a US pharmaceutical company to market and sell the drug in the world's biggest market."


http://www.innovation.wa.gov.au/Inn...ovation Directory/s/solbec/Cancer wonder drug
 
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Hm, I'm drunk right now... Does that mean it's a bad company that tries to sell the shit? I guess so, since every piece of information I've found about this seemed to come from the same source...

crOOk
 
*open parents bedroom door* finds man pants down urinating on dresser
"your pissing on the dresser!"
"i'm not pissing i spilt a beer"
"your cock's hanging out"
*man falls to knees holding self up by arms and starts vomiting, man becomes and weak and starts rolling in vomit*
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING?"
"it's warm" replies man.

who would have known one day it'd cured cancer!
 
^^ 'Cept it ain't datura, see above... Devil's apple is in the belladona family but then again, so are tomatoes.
 
More research

The West Australian Wednesday Feb 16 2005.

Devil's weed wilts cancers.

A new anti-cancer drug developed from the noxious weed devil's apple surprised researchers when it prolonged the lives of terminally ill patients by wilting the size of their tumours.
The unexpected results came from tests of the drug coramsine on 19 WA patients with cancers. They were not expected to respond to the treatment at Sir Charles Gardner Hospital.
Perth company Solbec Pharmaceuticals yesterday released preliminary results of clinical trials into the effectiveness of coramsine’s main compound, which in a separate study at the hospital cured mice of asbestos related mesothelioma.
The drug, which is injected into the heart, cut the size of tumours by more than half in three out of the 19 patients with bone lung and kidney cancers.
“We didn’t expect such a result because their cancers were at avery advanced stage.” Solbec’s managing director Stephen Carter said.
“We were testing for safety not efficacy.”
He said stage two of the clinical study launched in 2003 would be extended to 35 patients with the same disease as part of a national study later this year.
“We’re looking at turning a terminal disease into a chronic disease that can be managed on a daily basis,” he said.
“This work promises to give people a long, normal life without the side effects of existing treatments.”
Research leader Michael Millward, who is Cancer Council professor of clinical cancer research at the University of WA and Sir Charles Gardner Hospital, said the results were encouraging,
“Its still early days but the latest results are promising because in this sort of trial any sort of improvement at all is unexpected,” he said.
The human trial was designed to find safety, tolerability and anti-tumour activity of multiple injections of coramsine into the superior vena cava, the main vein which returns blood to the heart from the head and arms.
Mr Carter said patients in the trials had exhausted other treatments.
Patients were not offered the experimental treatments unless proved treatments had failed.
 
Wow, that does sound very promising. Due to the severity of cancers and the number of people who are exposed to the dissease this could potentialy change the way we all look at it!
 
dr platypus, that drug dioxgin, v-can you tell me a bit more about it? me friend and i got poisoning form thr plant version of it from oleander... we were so sick, hospitialised for three days, my friends heart beat went to 29 b/p/min. it was horrible......... anyway will there be anylong term affects besides humiliation..... the docs said it was like an over dose of that drug. thanks.
 
I don't wish to appear to be speaking for drplatypus, but I know he's quite busy atm, so this might help in the mean time.

Excerpts from MIMS


Digoxin Sigma Pharmaceuticals Pty Ltd
MIMS Abbreviated Prescribing Information

Section: 2(g) Cardiac inotropic agents
Consumer Medicine Information: Available

Pregnancy Category: A

Sport Category: Permitted in sport

Uses/Indications: CHF, atrial fibrillation

Contraindications: Intermittent complete heart block; 2nd degree A-V block; ventricular tachycardia, fibrillation; arrhythmias induced by cardiac glycosides; supraventricular arrhythmias assoc. with accessory pathway; hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy; hypersensitivity to other digitalis glycosides

Precautions: Carotid sinus hypersensitivity; acute glomerulonephritis with cardiac failure; Ca, K disturbance, hypoMg; thyroid disease; idiopathic hypertrophic subaortic stenosis; ischaemic heart disease, acute MI, myocarditis, myxoedema, severe pulmonary disease; hypoxia; sick sinus syndrome; rapid IV admin; malabsorption states; renal impairment; cardioversion; elderly, children, pregnancy

Adverse Reactions: GI upset; ECG effects: prolonged PR interval, depression of ST segment, false postive ST-T changes during exercise; arrhythmias incl sinus bradycardia (esp in intoxication in children); rash; gynaecomastia; visual disturbances; depression; others, see full PI

Drug Interactions: Complex, see full PI


Cardiac glycoside.

Pharmacology. Digoxin has a positive inotropic action on the heart, increasing the systolic force of contraction and so achieving more complete ventricular emptying. These effects are not easily seen in the normal heart because of homoeostatic adjustments in the circulatory system. In the failing heart, however, the increased contractile force results in an increase in cardiac output, a reduction in the end diastolic pressure of the ventricle, decrease in cardiac enlargement, reduction in venous pressure and improvement in renal function. Not only is the force of systole increased but its length is shortened, giving the heart more time to rest between contractions and more time for the ventricle to fill with venous blood. Owing to the increased cardiac output there is improvement in the peripheral circulation, with mobilisation of oedematous fluid, improved renal blood flow and resultant diuresis. The increased cardiac work is accomplished without a commensurate increase in oxygen consumption.

Digoxin increases the excitability of cardiac muscle, which results in the production of ectopic beats when excessive doses are administered. Conduction in the atrioventricular bundle is depressed, with increase in atrioventricular conduction time and lengthening of the PR interval on the ECG. Digoxin increases vagal tone in the heart resulting in slowing of the sinoatrial nodal rate and further depression of conduction in the atrioventricular bundle. This action may be abolished by atropine.

Pharmacokinetics. Absorption. Approximately 60 to 85% of an oral dose of digoxin from either tablet or elixir is usually absorbed. Absorption of digoxin is mainly from the small intestine, presumably by a passive, nonsaturable process. Delayed gastric emptying or the presence of food may slow the absorption rate but not the extent of absorption of orally administered digoxin. Gastric pH does not affect the degree of digoxin absorption. Intestinal absorption of the drug may be impaired in patients with certain malabsorption states, but absorption is not substantially changed by partial gastrectomy or jejunoileal bypass.

After oral administration in undigitalised patients onset of peak effect occurs in 0.5 to 2 hours and peak effect occurs in six to eight hours. After intravenous administration of a single dose of digoxin in previously undigitalised patients, the onset of action occurs in 5 to 30 minutes and peak effects occur in one to five hours. Pharmacological effect may persist three to four days after withdrawal of digoxin in digitalised patients.

If plasma concentrations of digoxin are to be determined, blood samples should be obtained at least six to eight hours after the daily dose and preferably just prior to the next scheduled daily dose. Therapeutic plasma concentrations of digoxin in adults are generally 0.5 to 2 nanogram/mL. In some patients with atrial fibrillation, slowing of ventricular rate may require steady-state plasma concentrations of 2 to 4 nanogram/mL. In adults toxicity is usually but not always associated with plasma concentrations greater than 2 nanogram/mL. Although neonates and infants appear to tolerate higher plasma concentrations of digoxin than do adults, evidence suggests that plasma concentrations greater than 2 nanogram/mL are associated with little, if any, additional therapeutic benefit in these patients.

Distribution. With therapeutic plasma concentrations, about 20 to 30% of digoxin in blood is bound to plasma proteins. Digoxin protein binding is not appreciably changed in uraemic patients. Patients with severe renal impairment have smaller apparent volumes of distribution of digoxin than do normal subjects.

Metabolism. In most patients, only small amounts of digoxin are metabolised, but the extent of metabolism is variable and may be substantial in some patients. Some metabolism presumably occurs in the liver, but digoxin is also apparently metabolised by bacteria within the lumen of the large intestine following oral administration and possibly after biliary elimination following parenteral administration.

Excretion. Digoxin has an elimination half-life of 34 to 44 hours. In patients with renal failure the elimination half-life is increased, for example in anephric patients the half-life is about 4.5 days or longer. Elimination half-life is prolonged in hypothyroid patients and decreased in hyperthyroid patients. In undigitalised patients, institution of a fixed daily dose of digoxin maintenance therapy without an initial loading dose results in steady-state plasma concentrations after four to five elimination half-lives (about seven days in patients with normal renal function).

Digoxin is excreted mainly in the urine, principally as unchanged drug, by glomerular filtration and active tubular secretion; tubular resorption may also occur. In most patients, small amounts of reduced metabolites are also excreted in urine. However, in some patients, about 40% or more of orally administered digoxin excreted in urine will consist of reduced metabolites. In healthy individuals, about 50 to 70% of an intravenous dose is excreted unchanged in urine. Small amounts of cardioactive metabolites and unchanged digoxin are also excreted in the bile and faeces.



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DIGOXIN from chemexper


Also from MIMS ; Sigma makes an antidote

Digoxin immune Fab GlaxoSmithKline Australia Pty Ltd
MIMS Abbreviated Prescribing Information

Section: 20(a) Detoxifying agents, antidotes
Consumer Medicine Information: Available

Pregnancy Category: B2

Sport Category: Permitted in sport

Uses/Indications: Potentially life threatening digoxin intoxication

Precautions: Multiple drug overdose; monitor potassium; impaired cardiac, renal function; sheep protein allergy, prior treatment (perform skin test, see full PI); pregnancy, lactation, infants

Adverse Reactions: Sensitivity reactions; hyper/ hypokalaemia; exacerbation of CHF, AF (withdrawal of digitalis)

DIGIBIND INJECTION (Infusion) Prescription required. S4
Digoxin specific immune antigen binding fragments; sorbitol 75 mg, NaCl 28 mg; powder for reconstitution; vial;

Dose: Calculate dose according to serum digoxin conc or amount ingested; if unavailable admin 760 mg as 9.5 mg/mL IVI over 30 mins; see full PI
Pack: 38 mg (solv. needed) [1]


Oleander is particularly nasty. Around 5 years ago we had an old friend staying. He liked to look in the 'backyard' for remedies and tonics and would often come home chewing on some native stick or leaves. Once he decided he needed detoxifying [?] and so went next door to my neighbour's and licked an Oleanda plant. Just one lick he reckoned, but his tongue swelled that much we thought he'd die for sure. Yet he wouldn't allow us to take him to a doctor or even phone for advice. It was a scary time. My next door neighbor ripped up the bush the next day and my recovering friend walked around in a daze for for 2 days saying nothing but....man, that's powerful medicine alright, very powerful... 8(


Here's a couple of interesting papers on Digoxin. The first covers Digoxin in the critically ill patient. It gives a great outline of the chemistry and pharmacology of Digoxin with nice pics to make things easier to grasp.

Digoxin in the critically ill patient

DIGOXIN

Digoxin is obtained from leaves of the plant Digitalis lanata and is one of a family of cardiac glycosides all of whom share a steroid nucleus and an unsaturated lactone ring attached to the C-17 position (wherein the pharmacological activity resides), combined with one to four molecules of sugar attached to the C-3 position (Figure 1). The sugar modifies the lipid and water solubilities, and thus absorption, duration, and excretion properties of the drug.


This on is titled Management of acute yellow oleander poisoning You may find some similarities to your unfortunate encounter

Patients presenting to the Colombo CCU with sinus bradycardia <40 bpm
 
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