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Parabola
27-10-2004, 04:47
Is it safe to dissolve adderall and inject it?...or ritalin.... if this is a stupid question im sorry...but eating or snorting them doesnt really give me much of an effect anymore...

captainballs
27-10-2004, 05:09
I just had a conversation with Captain Vascular System about shooting up dissolved aderall. All he kept saying was: "Dirty pool, old boy, DIRTY POOL!"

Maybe you should just start snorting meth before you decide that you need to take a needle to your poor veins because aderall and ritalin don't work for you anymore. Aderall and Ritalin are weak drugs. It takes a lot of aderall for the average abuser to get that satisfying buzz. A little bit of meth goes a long way, though! I feel bad for writing this... what I really want to do is tell you to knock that shit off before you find yourself in the position of a lot of ex-friends of mine are in because of stimulants: Totally addicted and totally fucked up 90% of the time, jobless, friendless, trapped in an endless cycle of selling massive amounts of every kind of drug, and somehow still balling about as hard as your local box-dwelling crackhead. I probably don't even need to tell you that they look 20 times worse every three days because they're about as healthy as someone who's dying of AIDS.

Look - I don't mean to patronize you, and I may be overreacting, but if you're thinking about injecting ANYTHINGl you may need to analyze the path you're on and perhaps take a break from drugs.

There - now I feel better.

thursday
27-10-2004, 06:59
ritalin has no recreational value. just get some meth if u want to have fun on stimulants.

subdefy
27-10-2004, 07:32
^ I have actually heard of people IVing methylphenidate

thursday
27-10-2004, 07:50
i have too. and i i've also tried it myself because i was needle-happy and i needed to write a paper in a few short hours. and i can assure you that it's utterly useless recreationally.

ritalin stands somewhere between caffeine and amphetamine as far as it's effects as a stimulant. anything weaker than d-amphetamine is worthless for recreational purposes in my opinion.

rivered1
27-10-2004, 11:41
Cant people just be happy with eating and snorting pills...

Kerrigan
27-10-2004, 14:38
Fuck no, it's not safe.

I don't know about adderall, but ritalin is not difficult to inject. It's water soluble, and so you just need to drop your tablets into a little water. I'd recommend you use at least 2ML. Leave it for a while because the pills (that I had) seem to contain a lot of insoluble binders/filler and so you may end up with wet sludge. That's why I'd suggest using 2ml or more of water...

As for the advice about using meth instead of injecting these tablets, I'd agree. You could even recrystalize it a couple of times to get a completely pure product. Safer to inject than the likes of ritalin or adderall, but you wouldn't even need to inject it.

StarTripper
27-10-2004, 14:56
Just go ahead and inject. Let us now how fucked up you get...

who mE?
27-10-2004, 19:55
2 very well known posters on another drug related messageboard have DIED from injecting methylphenidate... This is an EXTREMELY CARDIOTOXIC drug... High doses IVed CAN lead to cardiac arrest, pulmonary edema, and stroke...
Based upon my research it seems that IV methylphenidate is MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN IV COCAINE.
I strongly recommend that you DO NOT IV methylphenidate OR adderall, if you really want to keep chasing that impossible stimulant high that you felt the first time you ever used, go buy yourself a rock of meth and smoke it. But I too have seen many people led down the road to ruin thanks to smoked methamphetamine HCl. I hope you believe me that methamphetamine can easily be THE MOST HARMFUL DRUG you've ever experienced when used long-term. Methamphetamine is some SERIOUS stuff, I consider myself a "junkie" and have tried 50+ drugs, and even I won't smoke meth!

Kerrigan
27-10-2004, 20:20
Could IV abuse of methylphenidate account for a BPM of 96? That's while at rest... Eugh. If I'm right about that other drug related messageboard I did read about those deaths. Infact they detered me from ever injecting anything like that again.

It's just nasty. Nasty!

vicodelicious
27-10-2004, 22:04
Is amphetamine water soluable? I don't remeber off hand... But NO, you don't want to inject Adderall. Lots of fillers and binders that your viens will not like.

Don't do it.

Just fucking eat them. They have a high oral bioavailability. (is that even a word, lol)

kemikals
28-10-2004, 01:55
i've injected close to pure amph in europe, yes it did dissolve readily in water and i did not expirience any problems.
adderal is a different story i guess, it's not close to pure and imo is not worth it.

JTMarlin
28-10-2004, 03:02
Dextroamphetamine sulfate filtered from Dexedrine Spansules and then dissolved in water could probably be injected using a micron filter...but I don't inject things so I don't know first hand.

fizzacyst
28-10-2004, 04:09
I think its safe to say this is something you shouldn't do.

If you have the tablets, they are mostly sucrose. shooting up table sugar is probably not too good for you. It may not be, but sudden spikes of sugar that normally never make it into the bloodstream dont seem like a good thing.

thursday
28-10-2004, 06:06
it's not just that injecting adderall is unsafe. most drug use comes with some sort of health risk especially when you are fucking with needles.

and yea, injecting pills might be more dangerous than injecting drugs prepared specifically for injection such as heroin, but there are still pills out there that i'm willing to take that risk for.

i've IVed generic morphine tablets many times, and i'd probably IV percocets or generic oxycodone if i had the chance as well as other strong opiates.

but adderall is just not worth it IMO. and this is coming from a pretty reckless druggie, so take that into consideration.

i HAVE injected methylphenidate before. i did it because:

a.) i'd just shot up about 80mg of morphine into my arm when i realized that i had a paper due in like 3 hours.
b.) i was needle-happy and extremely stupid.

and it was most definitely not worth the risk that i ran when i acted so recklessly. i DID finish my paper and turn it in on time, but ritalin has no recreational value whatsoever even if you decide to inject it. it makes no difference whether you eat it or inject it, there's really no rush or any sense of euphoria to be gained from IVing it.

adderall in my opinion has minimal recreational value. if you are really sensitive to stimulants, maybe d-amphetamine could potentially produce some sort of a rush, but it's still not worth the risk you run.

if you want to get high off of uppers just get some coke, or meth.

if you want to inject something, try heroin or liquid morphine. heck, if you don't give a shit about your health like me, then go ahead and IV generic morphine tablets or percocets or something if you want. but don't damage your veins for adderall.

kemikals
28-10-2004, 11:58
Originally posted by thursday

i've IVed generic morphine tablets many times, and i'd probably IV percocets or generic oxycodone if i had the chance as well as other strong opiates.

but adderall is just not worth it IMO. and this is coming from a pretty reckless druggie, so take that into consideration.


Umm, you say you'd inject oxycodone/APAP but not adderall, seems sorta hypocritical to me. I personally dont inject any kind of pills, but have iv'ed plenty of heroin and it wasn't exactly easy on the veins. people keep saying that adderall would be worse than H, but would you rather IV amph+sucrose or heroin+some unkown cut?

nenarOPI
28-10-2004, 15:02
don't inject adderall. eat adderall. eat pills, snort powders, inject from sealed ampoules (but nobody follows this adage, lol)

nugsforall
28-10-2004, 15:26
I had sort of the same type of question, would it be healthy for me to take my dogs flea medication and inject it because I got fleas? J/K -dave

thursday
28-10-2004, 20:16
Originally posted by kemikals
Umm, you say you'd inject oxycodone/APAP but not adderall, seems sorta hypocritical to me. I personally dont inject any kind of pills, but have iv'ed plenty of heroin and it wasn't exactly easy on the veins. people keep saying that adderall would be worse than H, but would you rather IV amph+sucrose or heroin+some unkown cut?

how is it hypocritical? i'm not saying that my own practices are any less risky than injecting adderall. i'm just stating that adderall isn't gonna get you that high compared to oxycodone or morphine and is relatively weak recreationally. and i did state that my own behavior is reckless.

and the cut put in heroin is presumably relatively harmless compared to the huge amounts of binders and fillers in pills. thats why it's usually not safe practice to IV pills. but i guess you could be getting really shitty H with like 90% cut, that would be excecption.

oh and APAP is fairly water-insoluble compared to most opiates so chances are there'd only be trace amounts in resevoir by the time you filter it. it's the dyes and fillers that pose the most danger.

kemikals
29-10-2004, 05:29
ok thanks. btw its hypocrtical to say...

"Dont bang adderall" and "I might bang some percs".

I don't wanty to start anything,your right, i just wanted to point that out.

thursday
29-10-2004, 05:37
did u not read my post?

i didn't say injecting percocets is healthy. i said both were bad. but i think i made that pretty clear with my original post, and u still didn't pick it up.

quit being a troll and actually read my entire post before you start criticizing me.

elysees
23-11-2004, 11:32
kemikals haha...

K'dOUTinAZ
23-11-2004, 20:22
Originally posted by vicodelicious
Is amphetamine water soluable? I don't remeber off hand...

Yes, they are

JTMarlin
23-11-2004, 21:21
Just take the stuff how it was intended to be taken. Unless you have pure amphetamine or d-amphetamine sulfate, it's pointless. There are too many binders in those pills, as well as coloring, to do so. The only amphetamine pills that MIGHT be injected half-safely are the white Mallinckrodt D-amphetamine tabs, since they have hardly any binders at all.

negrogesic
23-11-2004, 22:43
Proper filtration, especially micron filtration, should render the pill injectable, but with IVing there is always a risk, though im sure your aware of this. Most likely, you arent going to be dealing with a micron filter, so its really a toss up of risk-reward......

vicodelicious
24-11-2004, 02:26
Originally posted by negrogesic
Most likely, you arent going to be dealing with a micron filter, so its really a toss up of risk-reward......

Not to get off topic, but how easy are micron filters to use? I have no idea what they look like or how they work. I don't inject pills, but I'm just curious... ;) =D

PhorIndicator
24-11-2004, 02:36
LMAO - not to any response in particular - but to the entire thread itself

vicodelicious
24-11-2004, 02:52
^thanks for contributing... 8)

fastandbulbous
24-11-2004, 02:54
Amphetamine sulphate is soluble to the extent that 1g will dissolve in 11ml of water at room temp (25'C) to form a saturated soln. It becomes much more soluble as the temp goes up.

That little gem is stuck in my brain as I recrystallize any amphetamine that I get (to remove all the reactants from the synth that have unknown toxicology etc). If you do use this method to purify what you've got, you should end up with rosettes of needle shaped crystals.

AdOgG0911
24-11-2004, 03:23
I would tend to agree with a previous poster. If your tolerance is high enough that you are considering banging adderall it may be time to lay off for a while or switch to meth if thats not an option.

rocknrllnurse
24-11-2004, 03:34
i don't know about u guys, but i would do a shitload of adderall and/or ritalin (and love it) before i'd IV oxy/APAP. My blood isn't a big apap fan

blase deviant
24-11-2004, 18:04
I wish I knew how to prepare Adderall for injection. Not so I could IV it, but so I could evap the water off and snort it without tearing my nose to hell.

And amps are water soluble? I've crushed XRs, and poured into water to take, and the amount floating on the top and slowly sinking through looks about the same as what I put in? Are you saying all the crap I see in there, after stirring, etc, is all filler, binder, plastic from the beads?

fastandbulbous
25-11-2004, 00:01
If it's got plastic beads in a slow release (SR, XR etc) preparation, then it's most likely an ion-exchange resin that provides the graduated release, and are an absolute pain to remove the drug from. Simply shaking with water will not release the drug

blahblahblah
25-11-2004, 00:12
I used to get hard lumps in my veins when I would shoot adderall, I would just crush a 30mg IR add water filter and inject (I hardly cared for the health of my body than). I still can taste that sweet taste in my mouth right after an injection. Basically it wasnt shit, enough to get my dope sick body in gear and get up and either take a taxi or walk to my old dealers house. The rush was slight and short lived but definetly present.

paradoxcycle
25-11-2004, 01:25
Originally posted by blahblahblah
I used to get hard lumps in my veins

Blah, how long did they last?

K'dOUTinAZ
25-11-2004, 01:47
Originally posted by rocknrllnurse
i don't know about u guys, but i would do a shitload of adderall and/or ritalin (and love it) before i'd IV oxy/APAP. My blood isn't a big apap fan

Ummm...I don't think that anybody on this entire board would inject anything with acetaminophen in it, nobodys blood is an acetaminophen fan. 8) Where did that come from anyway?

blase deviant
25-11-2004, 01:49
You're saying crushing Adderall XR doesn't help? I've mentioned crushing it millions of times and seen other people do it as well, and never heard this.

Fuck, this would explain why it lasts so long.

I have to put up with l-isomer AND time release that I can't get rid of. If I don't get switched to Dexedrine I'm going to... explode or something.

blahblahblah
25-11-2004, 02:37
paradox,

They would last 2-3 weeks, I have probably injected adderall close to 50 shots and most of them would be fine (I would imagine with a micron filter it would even be better, or maybee not) but there was always a chance even with a clean shot I would get a hard bubble around the injection site and it felt like on/in the vein also. I was injecting into my biceps veins. The unidentifiable mass on the injection site would slowly be worn away and it would be unoticable after 2-3 weeks.

Now, who the fuck knows what damage I did to the interior of my body, I tend not to dwell on those issues because what is done is done. If I do happen to drop dead from a blood clot in one of my main arteries, I have a feeling I might have an inkling as to what caused the problem.

AdOgG0911
25-11-2004, 07:35
Originally posted by blase deviant
You're saying crushing Adderall XR doesn't help? I've mentioned crushing it millions of times and seen other people do it as well, and never heard this.

Fuck, this would explain why it lasts so long.

I have to put up with l-isomer AND time release that I can't get rid of. If I don't get switched to Dexedrine I'm going to... explode or something.

Crushing Adderall XR defeats the time release and effectively turns it into a regular Adderall pill. The time release is in the bead coating and if you crush it the time release no longer works. This is why the script bottle has a big DO NOT CRUSH label on it.

SoulShakedownSister
25-11-2004, 18:03
ritalin has wax base so cool it with an ice cube after you cook it and it;ll seperate- i'm in Canada and it may be different here, i find good high bad come down
Perkoset? Why the FUCH would anyone shoot a Perk- for the 5mg of OC that is in a perk i'd say thats pretty worthless esp since your getting all that acetaminophin as well- do yourself a favor and just do some oxy.

K'dOUTinAZ
26-11-2004, 04:31
Originally posted by SoulShakedownSister
Perkoset? Why the FUCH would anyone shoot a Perk- for the 5mg of OC that is in a perk i'd say thats pretty worthless esp since your getting all that acetaminophin as well- do yourself a favor and just do some oxy.

First off, its Percocet not perkoset
Second off, its fuck not fuch
Third off, nobody IVs percocet. Why did you even mention that?

PhorIndicator
26-11-2004, 06:26
LMAO. BTW Vico, you're welcome. :)

blase deviant
26-11-2004, 06:35
Originally posted by AdOgG0911
Crushing Adderall XR defeats the time release and effectively turns it into a regular Adderall pill. The time release is in the bead coating and if you crush it the time release no longer works. This is why the script bottle has a big DO NOT CRUSH label on it.

That's what I thought, but that's not what the other guy said, I dunno.

negrogesic
26-11-2004, 19:40
Micron filters are round little disks that screw on to your syringe (luer-lock) or some just push on. You would need a 3.5cc/5cc rig, or a syringe with DETACHABLE needle.

This is what a micron filter looks like:

micron filter (http://www.hcl-intl.com/images/ivs/12550xl.jpg)

Again, this looks like a luer-lock one (the kind you screw on to the syringe). You have to have a syringe with a detachable needle, as the filter attaches directly where the needle goes, then on the other side of the filter you put the needle on it and dispense the filtered solution into the back of a fresh syringe, or in a spoon (preferable a sterile vacuutainer/vial). They are EXTREMELY easy to use.....

Weebl8bob
30-09-2006, 15:42
Do not bang adderall XR.. I know for a fact that it contains a triethyl citrate which is soluble in water and can/will solidify in the veins untill the blood carries it away or a clot forms and it is surgically removed
(Im aware of the age of this thread..)