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Police warn of new killer tablet on the street----The West Australian, april 11

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POLICE WARN OF NEW KILLER TABLET ON STREET
Police have warned ecstasy tablets so deadly they are refered to as
"flatliners" in Britain could be on their way to Perth.
In a bid to save lives, they are telling users to try smaller quantities of
all tablets before swallowing them whole.
They say experienced users would know which tablets were ecstasy and which
ones were made from other drugs.
However, there was no way first-time users would be able to identify the
potentially deadly tablets.
Police have warned that a drug known on the street as liquid ecstasy could be
deadly.
Sgt Gill Wilson, of teh drug and alcohol support unit, said flatliners had
been blamed for deaths in Britain and could prove to eb as deadly as the
so-called death drug paramethoxyamphetamine, or PMA, which has been blamed for
three deaths since October.
"We know PMA can be very dangerous and we believe this new drug is going to be
equally dangerous", he said
"I would say they will definetely show up here because sadly, it is inevitable
that we get what they do.
"What id going to be popular in London next year will probably hit here next
winter or next summer. That's just the way it works."
He said a purple-coloured liquid sold in phials and marketed as liquid ecstasy
was not related to the designer drug and was a heavy depressant.
"It's actually called GHB but we call it GBH because that's what it can do."
he said. "The problem is there are actually two hits in that phial but they
are taking the whole phial and expecting a lovely feeling but in fact it's
slowing them down."
Manufacturers have increasingly passed off bogus tablets which contain deadly
substances for the most popular brands of ecstasy tablets.
Ecstasy is supposed to be made largely of methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA)
but police have found tablets containing big quantities of speed, herion,
insecticides, pesticides, paracetamol, caffeine and ketamine (an animal
tranquiliser known on the street as Special K).
More alarming is the appearance of PMA, which has been blamed for three deaths
since October.
Sgt Wilson said tablets which looked just like the top brands of ecstasy could
be cheap and deadly copies.
"We have been telling herion users to try a little bit before they shoot it up
into their veins," he said. "This is esspecially important if they are
changing their dealer or getting it from source they don't usually use.
"It's good business practise to run with for amphetamines and indeed all drugs.
"We are saying to them to just realise the dangers and what's on the street
being sold to them as ecstasy can be nothing like ecstasy."
Police believe many long-time users were so worried about the trend they were
switching to speed, he said.
Belgian national police force drug section director Lt-Col Charles De Winter
said a big quantity of ecstasy was produced in squalid conditions near the
border between Belgium and Holland.
"We have seen reasonably clean places but most of teh time it's filthy dirty,"
he said. "They mix the chemicals in cans i wouldn't use for garbage, or even
in the dirt on the floors.
"They have no consideration for the rules that you have in the medical or
pharmaceutical industry."
Lt-Col De Winter said the drug was produced in rental barns-cum-laboratories
and the criminals moved their operations often to avoid detection.
In Belgium and Holland, it was produced mostly by Dutch and Belgian crime
syndicates but chemisty students had been known to produce ecstasy to make
quick money.
Lt-Col De Winter said he knew some of this ecstasy was produced to meet the
demands of Australian consumers. The production cost of one ecstasy tablet is
believed to be about 15c.
They sell for up to $70 dollars a tablet but usually cost about $30.
Lt-Col De Winter said Europol had been trying to register all the different
types of tablet by the brand stamped on them.
We have tried to keep track of the different kinds," he said. "But we have
also seen that once a certain pill from a certain lab becomes popular the
there are many counterfeits produced of those illegal pills."
Sgt Wilson said a popular brand of ecstasy tablet, known as a green
mitsubishi for it's olive colour and mitsubishi logo, had at least two cheap
copies.
This had a 2 page spread with other articles;
Ecstasy moves onto the city nightclub scene-
about how clubs are trying to be more rave orientated and hence promote drug use
Expert: Zombie risk from ecstasy-
about how e's are fucking us up and giving us alzheimers, dementia and other stuff
Drug court plans given boost by NSW success-
about methods the government has found to save these lost individuals
Perth journalism at it's peak....
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[This message has been edited by Acid_Reign (edited 11 April 2000).]
 
hmmm ,
is it me or do these articles appear to becoming a cut and paste of each other. this has parts i remember seeing last week , whereas the information on 'flatliners' appears to be lifted straight from a copy of 'the face' from last year.
-eggman
 
I just turned on my puter to type up my letter to that paper about that fucking 2 page spread. I'll post in here if it gets published
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ultimately, we just want to be happy
 
I agree eggman. Most of these articles from 'reputable'(haha) publications always seem to say the exact same thing...over and over and over again.
And I am convinced they must go to the exact same police officer everytime for their quotes as im sick of hearing 'the conditions were so dirty i wouldn't let my dog sleep there' or the like.
Cut and paste is obviously that Journalists best friend.
Has anyone actually ever read an article in a mainstream publication that they thought was totally honest and informative instead of just speading the same old bullshit? And are these online anywhere??
The above article does have some good points, i guess, but seriously, what the hell is this turning into zombie stuff? Anwyay im goign to eat tea now, BRAINS it is for me, again
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Cause life aint nothing but a good groove
A good mix tape to put you in the right mood
 
Same old same old.... probably a murdoch publication.
Everyone should just get an EZ test kit and be safe and fuck the tabloid journalism.
 
Yeah same ol' same ol' you may say, but ti doesn't hurt to read and perhaps keep an eye out for stuff like that.
*Thanxx Acid_Reign*
Mr.Klownz.
 
I didn't realise that flatliners were new to Australia. I thought they had been around for a while. According to the article they are para-methoxyamphetamine but I thought that flatliner was actually 4-(methylthio)amphetamine or 4-MTA which has only recently been made illegal in Holland and England. I hear it can cause your eyes to roll right back. Yuk!
 
Entropope:
I wrote a letter to the West as well. I initially said that i applauded them on the spread as it was literally the first piece done which was fundamentally factually correct, i was kinda meaning the science side of it. For once they didn't call PMA a "FORM" of XTC. those sort of things.
i then bascially commented how no mention was made of the E testers, suggested about government funded testing and legalisation.
The whole bad pill problem...its really like the authorities are glad about it. i mean all other drugs they attack directly, whereas whenever MDMA is attacked the only argument is the pills don't have any MDMA at all, hence they rn't attacking the drug but its illegality and distribution. Funny hey.
Anyway i let them have it with the zombie remark and the ongoing heroin in pills, which by now we all now is impossible and at the very least would do nothing to the oral user if it was in there.
WELL today i was called and told that my article had been shortlisted and looked like it WOULD be published. However they refused to not put NAME AND ADDRESS SUPPLIED at the bottom. Well i was ropable. AS a 20yr old that lives with his parents and studying law of all things, how could i have my very uncommon name put at the bottom of that letter, revealing to parents, employers etc what i not only do in my private life but that i totally 100% endorse it.
So sadly I will not be heard..hopefully someone else will be with a little bigger balls than i have. (sorry thats sexist but u know what i mean)
For once something from OUR point of u, not from the police (who prob munch all the confiscated pills each weekend) or the politicians (who if given MDMA would prob develop a whole new insight into life and be better a what they do. thats what i want: Question time with Howard and Beasley rolling off their asses, Mr Speaker, umm: pass the medic, Howard: "i not only want to apologise to the aboriginal population but want to give every single one a big hug)
Sorry i've lost the plot, time to retire.
 
My letter was mostly imploring the media to imform on harm minimisation things like pre and post loading, test kits, and real contents.
I wrote in the afternoon after a 1 hr sleep night so i don't know if it's gonna go in
i didn't read it after i wrote it even, just wasn't in the state to. So i'm not expecting it to go in but we'll see.
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ultimately, we just want to be happy
 
Well in brisneyland over the weekend just gone - heroin had it's two page spread on saturday and speed had it's on sunday - I never saw anything on mdma.
Interesting how in the speed article they go on to say how bad it is and preach about how it screws you up and stuff and if you feel like this you will die and blah blah blah and that nearly everyone who uses it shoots it up like trying to say everyone who takes drugs is a lowlife junkie scum and this pisses me off - yeah there are a lot who shoot it up up but these ppl are the minority not the clubbers and the media make us look worse than we really are. Well who are the bad people here - the media, they have the power and circulate through millions of people and in two seperate two page articles they neglect to even provide any details on detox or help for these problem citizens -they just say yeah it's really bad but were gonna do squat.
I know this is not the drug of choice here but it just furthers the point that the media don't give a shite.
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:)I am the Klone of cruise_e - may he R.I.P - age 74posts:(
 
C'mon Doctor, Murdoch papers are the pinnacle of unbiased journalism.
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But seriously, I just flew in from Perth and boy are my arms tired. *drum roll*
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Feed Your Head.
 
well apparently there was some misunderstanding and they would have been happy to make the article anon. provided i gave them my details etc.
which i was happy to do. although a bit sceptical...
stupid woman on the fone was totally unclear so now it may be too late, we'll see.
Howards come down, feels shit and has withdrawn the apology, but had so much fun he's gone to work part time as a customs inspector.
 
They just don't stop
teh day after thjis they had another article from just as bias a point of view,,great journalism mind you,,,,still pisses me off they target ecstasy.
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