Is Meth really that bad

is meth really as bad as everyone says it is.

when i say meth, i mean crystal meth, rock/ice .

meth has only just recently become part of going out life for me and i want to know why everyone is so against it.
im not saying its not bad. i just want to know what i can expect if i continue to have it on weekends on a regular basis.
compared to have speed/dexies/pills on a regular basis.



because from what i gather, it starts fukin people up when u start takin it on a regular basis. you cant help but not touch the stuff

i only snort it. and will only ever take it on weekends. i can guarentee that. purely on a money basis, and my lifestyle circumstances.


im just concerned a little for myself and my friends, who party hard, but no when to stop. that if we keep have meth its gonna create a downwards spiral.

i guess what im also trying to get at is what can i expect to see if we start getting out of control. what are some signs that things start to get out of hand and things need to back off. because when ur living it, things seem normal.

i hope this makes sense because it is a tuesday and im scattered

cheers

bugger_me said:

i only snort it. and will only ever take it on weekends. i can guarentee that.

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Well sounds to me it won't be a problem for you, just as long as you stick to your rules.

^^ agreed!

But I always said to myself I would only stick to w/end usage too....... I didn't!

Smoking it is a lot better but much more addictive. I like the occasional pipe now and then, like once every 2 months or so.. I guess I'm lucky in that I don't really have an addictive personality.

Have you tried smoking your meth, or only snorting? Never snorted it myself, I'd imagine it would be very painful and pretty bad for your nose?

Personally, I think weekly usage is a bit too much. I am however, not a doctor or medically qualified to say what is good and what isn't good for you, I can only offer my personal opinion on the matter. There are a lot of people out there who use meth a lot more than yourself...

Meth is very taxing on your body as I'm sure you have felt when you're coming off it, I wouldn't take it more than once or maybe twice at the maximum, per month. Thats just me though

starting to use it every weekend is too much.... even if its only snorting it.. but its definatly worse if you smoke it, please do keep it to the weekends.. BUT...i think that
its become a problem if ure using every weekend for a few months.
its hard to see when your in it, but once you stop you will see.
its happened to so many people, so many of my friends.
you dont have to listen to me, but take the advise of myself and others.

For me, Meth is in the same basket as nicotine. It is addictive, high profit for suppliers, has no spiritual usage, and from my personal experience seems to fuck up most people that use it regularly.... Sure they might not end up as junkies, but man, I can't even have a decent conversation with regular users...... For me it takes a whole lot more than it gives.... a whole lot more!!

Right now my younger sister is injecting the stuff, lost way too much weight, and can't get her shit together at all so my feelings are far from objective. But I do have first hand experience of a smart, street wise, young girl fucking up big time on this gear... She didn't use any drugs regularly before meth.

Younger crew take note, do you have the discipline to keep meth use recreational?

Well I personally think that your usage atm is fine. Any more and you might start to notice some more serious side effects like extreme paranoia.

Have you ever eaten reallllly good gear, and had that corrosive feeling in your mouth. Well thats happening in your nose when you rack meth, so you may get nose bleeds from time to time with extended use.

Thats about it, you've done yourself a great credit by recognising your potential to form a meth habit, just subconsciously remember that you'd like to keep it a potential, and not a reality.

This is a question that will be answered differently by each individual, depending on many different deciding factors.

I wouldn't have thought that railing meth is any worse for you then smoking it, I have tried both ways and while smoking is preferable to me, there is no denying that I do feel it in my chest the next day, its a strong chemical to be passing through your lungs.

As for addiction, amphetamines have the ability to be very addictive, if not physically at first, they can be very mentally addictive to start with as they give the user the ability to party and remain awake long after their body wants to. So basically it really is pushing your body and mind to its limits in some cases.
I believe amphet addiction to be one of the nastiest I have seen to be honest.
If you are able to stick to only taking meth on the weekends then thats a good rule to stick to.

To help with the scatterdness and sketchiness following a meth binge, trying taking L-tyrosine, which is very similar in regards to 5-htp and mdma users.
L-Tyrosine will work on your dopamine which is what is depleted when you use meth, this will help make your recovery much more bearable.
Also, eating regular healthy meals (even though I know you wont feel like it) and taking vitamin supplements before and after a meth binge can help aswell.

Here is a link which has some helpful information on L-tyro for you.

http://www.gnc.com/health_notes/Supp/Tyrosine.htm

You can buy this at health food stores for a reasonable price.

Anyway, hope this helps abit.

I personally prefer to take meth orally if i do choose to.
Smoking - the intial high is awesome (probably the best ive ever had off meth, but ive never iv'd and dont intend to) but doesnt last as long.

Snorting - once again, not as long lasting (shorter overall high) but a longer peak.

Oral - lasts longer, the peak of the high isnt as intense but still really good and the overall peak and general amped up feeling lasts longer.

Moderate your usage, it is a drug with a very high addicition potential.

There are also plenty of threads on the meth and what it does to the body. There was also recently a thread on meth vs pills with loads of information.
Use the search engine, it has all been covered before.

I didn't think it was that bad... but it got a hold of me and fucked me over really, really bad.

So your decision

I have been doing Crystal (Meth) recreationally for about 5 years, with no
problems.

I do about the size of a match-head, and only orally. About once every
2 months. It's much cleaner than speed. I find it great to cruise on Meth
for a couple of hours and then drop an E.

This method works great for me. %)

What are some signs to look for:

-When u start getting overly paranoid...
E.g. U lock urself in ur room and think people are trying to get you or are after you.
Not a personal experience but a mate of a mate has been to this stage where he just can't socialise with ppl bcoz he gets to paranoid in the open.

-When ur hands start shaking after a long period of use.
E.g ur hands just tremble when ur normal, and its like u have an itching sensation that tells u to have more meth!!
Might not happen to every1, but have seen it happen to a few ppl i know. Sounds weird but yeh does happen.

But mainly bad paranoia and unusual behaviour are both some signs that usage is getting too much.

As others have said racking it up isnt as addictive as when u smoke meth. So maybe u will be fine in this aspect of not getting overly addicted. But then again rackin meth is extremely bad for ur nose.

Also check out Trip Reports...or do a search
There are some really bad reports on meth usage gone bad

the first signs that you are starting to spiral downward is when you see every little speck of whiteness as bits of meth

it only goes downhill from there...

an addiction is an addiction if its everyday or once a week
its something you have to have (or what u call it "want") at a specific time.
an addiction isnt bad its what the addiction does to you .
As to is meth bad yes its bad, its diffrent to every person on how bad is it to them, some of my friends are dead becuase of it yet some of the same circle of friends still do it and hold good jobs and keep houses.
if you notice a change in your self theres the first sign when other people notice it youve gone to far and time to stop.
try and eat aswell keep healthy inside atleast, vitimans help alot.
i can eat and do normal daily things whilst "on it" ppl dont know unless they see my fuk off pupils.
so as long as you look after your self and no when to stop you will be fine .

drugs r bad
it will kill some of you
put holes in the brains of majority
hurt all.

but we enjoy it 'eh what can you do

I know everyone is going to have different opinions about meth/ice which is expected due to different experiences.

I'm from New Zealand and have been living in melbourne for 6 months now. Ice is a huge problem in NZ which is the way Aus could go.

As i'm sure you would expect most drugs in NZ are expensive in comparison to here. The gangs in NZ got into meth production as even though it is still pricey (think 4 times the price here) the addiction factor has made it very profitable for them.

Things over the last 2 years have been getting out of control. I went out a lot in NZ. Not talking myself as i'm more embarrassed by the lack of control i had over my life at that time but I was going out every friday night on a cocktail of drugs (mostly meth) and not coming home to sleep until either sunday night or in some case after work on monday.

House parties are huge in NZ as clubs aren't open the longs hours they are here. This leads to some crazy parties. At any given night on weekends you might be at a party with 5 or more Meth pipes been passed around a room at one point time.

Dealers started selling crackpipes themselves so they would be accesable 24/7.

A lot of my friends were dealers and have been for a while. Around the time Smoking meth took over NZ people would be getting stood over a lot. friends were been lost as people got paranoid and angry. Thefts from parties with your friends were commen... were they really your friends???

The Dance scene started to decline as more and more people started to stay at home and just smoke.

A little over a years ago the NZ govt made it nessisary for ID to purchace flu tablets with psydo (sp?) in them, somthing that looks like will happen soon here.

This problem is too hard to discribe properly and is something you would need to see for yourself to understand properly. Hopefully you don't have to see it first hand.

Just be careful.

Luciddreamer.

From my personal experience... more meth users spiral out of control (addiction, crime, kicked out of school, loss of job) then users staying normal (unaffected).

well meth is very bad coz it fucks ur brain up in long term,and when im talking long term probaly just about six months.it makes ur brain like scramble eggs,try imagine that!i use to smoke meth daily,probaly 2grams a day for at least 6 months,since im from malaysia and meth is pretty cheap and good quality!i was a addict for half a year,till i got in rehab!and it wasnt a nice thing,made me go crazy!thats y i guess they call meth CRAZY DRUG,try and not to use meth at all if u can.

Great thread, some very frank and honest responses here. Thank you all for sharing your experiences.

BigTrancer

Ok, I'll wade back into the story.

I've been using meth, pretty much every weekend for the last 18months. I would usually only have about half a point in a weekend. It's only ever snorted, and only ever on the weekend. And to be honest the only real problem has been my nose is constantly blocked. So I decided to have a break and stopped cold turkey for 5 weeks. It wasn't hard and I didn't really get any cravings.

So I don't know if you would class me as an addict. It's not like I've had the meth and sat around at home watching tv, or had the meth and then looked for something to do (ala Activities for a meth binge thread). It's always been when I've been going out, and catching up with friends. I do use the meth to get high, I just use it to stay awake so I can hang out with my friends. And I think this is the crux of whether you become an 'addict' or not. It all depends on the philosophy as to why you take meth. I know a few addicts and former addicts and they all seem to use meth as a pick me up, to help get them started in the morning.

To me it will never be another form of caffiene, it will always be a recreational drug.