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alostlittlebird
10-01-2004, 20:49
Ok, most of us know the science behind why this should not work. THC is not water soluble, especially in the form of bound plant matter or trichromes, and should not be absorbed by mucus membranes. Also, heat activation is necessary before it is even ingested. So, snorting kief or dust or crystals or whatever you want to call it seems like a lame idea to me when you could just smoke it, BUT...

I am intrigued by the growing number of people who say they have done this and that it got them high. How was it prepared? What were the effects, how long did they last, and all that? Has anyone actually done this from baseline and noticed a remarkable high that could not be construed as placebo? I've read everything old i could find on the topic...

Who just wants to post because they hate this rumor? :)

420cascade
10-01-2004, 22:40
I don't know much about this tbh. Some experience reports would be good though!

(I've heard of snorting a certain tobacco btw)

Morrison's Lament
10-01-2004, 22:45
There are reports of tribes in the Southern parts of Africa using a snuff made with cannabis and other herbs before going into battle - but I kind of doubt they put the mixture through much scientific rigour. More likely "big chief witch doctor say this make boom boom - we agree this make boom boom!" or whatever.

--- G.

GroupE
11-01-2004, 01:26
what are sniffers then? I've seen them sold in head shops and online, I assumed it was for cock but aperently it's fro grass?!

Chubba75
11-01-2004, 01:41
The sniffers sold at headshops are "supposed" to be used for snuff, the legal tobbaco product. It's just like bongs, they are "supposed" to be used for tobbaco, but everyone smokes bud through them... just like people use sniffers to snort cocaine/meth/whatever.

Ahh, I love loopholes :)

Morrison's Lament
11-01-2004, 01:50
Originally posted by GroupE
what are sniffers then? I've seen them sold in head shops and online, I assumed it was for cock !

=D

--- G.

Adam76
11-01-2004, 02:27
Originally posted by GroupE
what are sniffers then? I've seen them sold in head shops and online, I assumed it was for cock lmao! you serious?

Morrison's Lament
11-01-2004, 02:30
He meant coke, but it's still very very funny =D

--- G.

Adam76
11-01-2004, 02:55
yea :D

Blowmonkey
11-01-2004, 03:59
Originally posted by alostlittlebird
I am intrigued by the growing number of people who say they have done this and that it got them high. How was it prepared? What were the effects, how long did they last, and all that?

Me too. Would really like to know in full detail how this was done. Anyone care to elaborate and not only come in here and say something like; " I got fucking ripped snorting crystals ".. Just describe everything what happened in detail svp.


Has anyone actually done this from baseline and noticed a remarkable high that could not be construed as placebo?

You can't ask this, some people don't know how a placebo effect works and describe that what they experience, as the high they get from snorting trichomes. I still think it's just a powerful placebo.. :\

GroupE
11-01-2004, 06:11
LOL fuck I ALWAYS Spell Coke, Cock lol I dunno why to much cyber sex I guess..
Kidding.
I dont mind the smell of weed but to put it in a little vile and sniff it lol It is for coke then, thats what I thought.

AdrenalinX
11-01-2004, 07:20
I say it's placebo too. I hung out with a group of youner stoners last year that though drinking bong water would get you fucked up. I saw 3 of them drink bong water....I didn't have the heart to tell them the truth. Or maybe it's just too funny to stop ;) All of them said they get "fucked up" from it.

frizzantik
11-01-2004, 07:37
i dont see why anyone would bother snorting when smoking is a quicker route of administration. usually you have to smoke less of a substance to get an equal high as well.

jefforize
11-01-2004, 09:49
Originally posted by AdrenalinX
I say it's placebo too. I hung out with a group of youner stoners last year that though drinking bong water would get you fucked up. I saw 3 of them drink bong water....I didn't have the heart to tell them the truth. Or maybe it's just too funny to stop ;) All of them said they get "fucked up" from it.


hilarious

bet it did fuck them up, in an unpleasant way ;)

alostlittlebird
11-01-2004, 21:53
i suppose that snorting a line of trichromes from a marijuana plant would be enticing enough to get someone high even if it is a placebo

can placebo also produce physical changes as well, heart rate or blood pressure for instance? or eye redness, if someone were to try this purely to see the effects they could check their eyes

xXTOKERXx
11-01-2004, 21:57
your nasal membranes are incredibly senstive and its not uncommon for even dust yo cause some ones eyes to water let alon THC crystals, there for i dont think you could tell as it wud interfere with the eyes any how...

Morrison's Lament
11-01-2004, 22:01
There has been a good deal of debate on the placebo effect and it's not really a well understood phenomenon. But according to popular thinking these days it can indeed produce physical reactions - how extreme this can get is more debatable.

Some claims have been made along the lines of placebo actually curing illness or speeding up recovery time or producing other remarkable measurable physical reactions - but there you are stepping into murkier waters.

--- G.

Blowmonkey
12-01-2004, 02:12
Placebo can produce physical reactions. I've seen something on the Discovery channel about a man that was cured from a rare disease called elephantiasis (or something :) ) with the oh so powerful placebo pills, containing nothing but binders. There were some other cases as well, but can't remember those. Placebo is like a big magic trick..

Splatt
12-01-2004, 04:48
I've calmed friends down (from panicky/anxiety states/heart rates...) by giving them vitament suppliments saying it was valium.

I really doubt snroting does fuck all, snorting anything makes yuor head rush for a few minutes, and thinking it does something will certainly bring placebo effects on.. If it did work,. it would be probably a few hours after when it is being abosrbed in the stomach from the drip etc... Then again there's the argumwent of heat-activation. Maybe only certain cannabinoids would cause effects.

psychetool
12-01-2004, 05:05
Say what you want.... Eating bud alone, with no heat activation, with no butter, WORKS. I don't see why snorting keif is any different ? It just goes down into your stomach like a normal bud! What is so hard for you people to understand???

Splatt
12-01-2004, 05:38
Yes but people are saying snorting it instantly gives them POT effects.

rm-rf
12-01-2004, 06:08
oi i was just joking when i said bluelight was getting so bad were gonna see "snorting weed" threads in here soon


haha anyways, i imagine smoking kief would get you alot higher than snorting it. besides, its marijuana not coke or crack or some like real badass drug. just smoke it, yo

Splatt
12-01-2004, 06:20
Hot knife it

killarava2day
12-01-2004, 06:25
^^ OT, but I heard a story about a guy who religiously hot-knifed weed, it was his favoured way of ingesting it. However, one day he eventually developed a serious breathing problem. He went to the doctor and got checked ou, apparently the years of hot-knifing had lead to his lungs being coated in fine particles of metal, the doctor was shocked that he was still alive 8o

alostlittlebird
12-01-2004, 08:00
Originally posted by THE WOOD
haha anyways, i imagine smoking kief would get you alot higher than snorting it. besides, its marijuana not coke or crack or some like real badass drug. just smoke it, yo

I think the point of this thread is getting missed. I never planned on snorting it myself and I know why everyone thinks it won't work.

What happened to those that have actually tried it? Psychetool, zacamo, aszazin? Experience is a lot more useful than speculation...

Me&TheGuise
12-01-2004, 08:19
Several years ago a friend of mine tried snorting some good quality hash (middle eastern sticks, I miss that stuff). we powdered it really fine and tried it out, but it didnt work. well there could have been baseline effects, but it was a waste either way because smoking the same amount would have gotten us ripped.

barnicle|bilk
12-01-2004, 13:12
Originally posted by psychetool
Say what you want.... Eating bud alone, with no heat activation, with no butter, WORKS. I don't see why snorting keif is any different ? It just goes down into your stomach like a normal bud! What is so hard for you people to understand???

Are you really really sure that eating bud works?

I have always believed that the thc in marijuana has to be "heat activated" before it will produce any effects, hence why smoking or baking works.

I would be very surprised if you got high from eating or snorting any bud or leaf... maybe hash or hash oil might be different but other than that can you say PLACEBO

Liquid SNake
12-01-2004, 17:49
wtf i never knew u could sniff weed...thats fucked up..i only thought u could smoke eat and drink it

Splatt
13-01-2004, 01:16
Read the thread again, most people are saying the form of administration is useless.

junglistDCk1d
13-01-2004, 08:58
Originally posted by GroupE
what are sniffers then? I've seen them sold in head shops and online, I assumed it was for cock but aperently it's fro grass?!


cock ? lol...

nowonmai
13-01-2004, 18:31
Originally posted by psychetool
Say what you want.... Eating bud alone, with no heat activation, with no butter, WORKS. I don't see why snorting keif is any different ? It just goes down into your stomach like a normal bud! What is so hard for you people to understand???

Sure, you'll get a little effect from eating raw bud or trichomes, but it's very minimal compared to what you'll experience if you cook it.

JB
13-01-2004, 18:47
Originally posted by Chubba75
The sniffers sold at headshops are "supposed" to be used for snuff, the legal tobbaco product. It's just like bongs, they are "supposed" to be used for tobbaco, but everyone smokes bud through them... just like people use sniffers to snort cocaine/meth/whatever.

Ahh, I love loopholes :) Wouldn't it be better to have a goverment that didn't ban inanimate objects in the first place.

How can a tube with a hole in the middle be illigal if sold in certain circumstances lol.

Here in the UK you can sell it as a crack pipe, tooter, whatever it's the act of actualy possesing the drug which is illigal. duh lol

Makes a bit more sene.

kerosika
13-01-2004, 21:30
I remember watching a program about a battle between British troops and Etiopian (I am not totally sure about Etiopia) warriors; it was saying that the Etiopian warriors killed all of the British troops after snorting kief from a very potent cannabis sativa plant narrator also was saying the weed in Africa is one of the most potent strains in the world. These warriors were not scared of the guns or the number of the British, they were just using knives and arrows.

psychetool
14-01-2004, 12:35
Snorting keif works. I agree that it is nowhere near as potent as heat activation ~ but it does still work!

Morrison's Lament
14-01-2004, 14:12
kerosika: I think that would have been the Zulu or something like that - I believe the custom was mostly common around the Southern tip of Africa.

--- G.

kerosika
14-01-2004, 17:48
Yes, I might be mistaken about the nation:)

SPUNK
14-01-2004, 19:35
the reason kids snort weed and think they are getting high is b/c they were high when they tried it in the first place.

alostlittlebird
14-01-2004, 20:04
Originally posted by Johny Boy
Here in the UK you can sell it as a crack pipe, tooter, whatever it's the act of actualy possesing the drug which is illigal. duh lol


lol this had me grinning

i really could care less about clogged nostrils for a half hour, er somebody is going to snort a little kief within a day or two and see what it does.

deroxor
01-03-2004, 18:59
i watched sum kid rail a line of crystal......... then he got a seizure so i split.

zacamo
01-03-2004, 20:32
ok like i've said before

i've railed crystal, two fat lines of very pure thc

we had a pound of shake (stem and leaf). i poured it into a large metal salad bowl, shook it around, poured it back into the bag, and the whole bowl was coated in white/green. we used a playing card to scrape the crystal off, put it in lines on a pane of glass, rolled up some $20s, and snorted away.

immediately, i felt myself go from pretty stoned to SOOO STONED. you know when you fall asleep on your arm or something, and you get the pins and needles feeling? well this happened to my whole face. my forehead, jaw, cheeks, nose, everything were all numb as hell. i then proceeded to walk to another room, sit on a bed, and stare at the wall for five minutes or so. then i could feel myself starting to "come down" at which point i could gather enough thoughts to tell those around me about the experience.

though thc isn't water soluble, it must find another way to be absorbed up there because that was no placebo.

THC Ridder
01-03-2004, 21:00
Originally posted by killarava2day
^^ OT, but I heard a story about a guy who religiously hot-knifed weed, it was his favoured way of ingesting it. However, one day he eventually developed a serious breathing problem. He went to the doctor and got checked ou, apparently the years of hot-knifing had lead to his lungs being coated in fine particles of metal, the doctor was shocked that he was still alive 8o

Great story ! Like the Italians say: "Se non vero, ben trovato" (If it's not true it's made up well). In other words: isn't this an 'urban legend' ?

THC Ridder
01-03-2004, 21:04
Originally posted by kerosika
I remember watching a program about a battle between British troops and Etiopian (I am not totally sure about Etiopia) warriors; it was saying that the Etiopian warriors killed all of the British troops after snorting kief from a very potent cannabis sativa plant narrator also was saying the weed in Africa is one of the most potent strains in the world. These warriors were not scared of the guns or the number of the British, they were just using knives and arrows.

I know this story too...in fact, the word 'hashish' comes from 'assassin' and is related to the story that soldiers were given it before the battle...

.....but, as all cannabis lovers know, this story can't be true ! Because giving hashish/weed to soldiers is the most STUPID thing to do, because your soldiers will giggle, stare, dream, lose their concentration and be very distracted 8o =D

leungkachong
02-03-2004, 01:00
As per placebo helping with symptoms of a sickness, there have been many studies. In fact, there have been studies in which individuals have been INFORMED beforehand that what they were taking was sugarpill (perhaps they don't believe the damn researchers :P), and yet many claimed it was "the best treatment they had been on", and "wished to continue taking the medication after the study was completed"!

But, for it helping with elephantiasis, I would find that very intriuging. To my understand, elephantiasis is caused by a type of worm blocking the lymph vessels in the body leading to EXTREME swelling/enlargement. If the placebo-ridden mind could remove those worms, I'd be utterly flabberghasted (and if it could, a little red eye wouldn't be that impressive either ;)).