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Lazarus666
17-11-2003, 21:44
Hey,

What color is pure herion? I think it's crystal white like salt, but i've never seen any.

ATripToOC
17-11-2003, 22:30
I've always thought it was a dark brownish color I could be wrong though.

Tri-nity
17-11-2003, 23:16
chemically, pure heroin is a white powder.

Tri-nity
17-11-2003, 23:25
a crystiline powder at that.

Vaya
18-11-2003, 01:16
So why is it always brown, even in the movies where the dealers claim they have 'pure'?

kalt_kalt
18-11-2003, 01:21
Tar heroin is brown. Needless to say, it's highly impure. Not all movies show heroin as brown. As i recall, the heroin in Pulp Fiction was white. It was so white that Uma's character thought it was coke and snorted it.

JosephTHeSequel
18-11-2003, 02:00
Tar heroin is black... the powder/rocky stuff is brown. i dont do smack, but ive never heard of brown tar.

negrogesic
18-11-2003, 02:32
Like said by others, pure heroin is white powder. This doesnt mean white colored heroin you buy somewhere is pure. Pure heroin is generally not sold to users, and is usually cut to at least some degree by the chemist after making it. If a chemist is bothering to refine it to heroin #4, they would most likely have the sense to immediately cut it, and it would without a doubt be cut again when sold by the distributer. Pure heroin on the street would be a disaster. But, there are forms of brown rocks, which turn into powder, that can sometimes be very powerfull and potent, but not pure by any means. And tar heroin comes in different colors, black, brown, and reddish, and varies greatly on consistently (some is very soft, others is very hard). In general, soft tar heroin is brownish-red and is good for smoking, and hard tar is black and meant for injection or smoking (it is rough to smoke), but there are occasional anomolies (ive seen some very soft dark black stuff, and hard brown tar).

JosephTHeSequel
18-11-2003, 02:39
thanks for clearing that up negroG:)

SteveElektro
18-11-2003, 11:00
"Pure heroin on the street would be a disaster"
In the mid/late nineties in Melbourne, police siezures showed street bought heroin was approaching purity levels above and over 90%.
Needless to say, it was all grade 4 white rock.
At that time, Melbourne had the highest heroin OD's per capita in the world, or so they said..

ebeneezer_geeza
18-11-2003, 11:24
No4 as Steve said was a disaster. In the UK this was true for users dealers and suppliers because so many ppl died through OD from Pure white. Therefore, in the 1980's No3 (ranges from dark brown - off-white) hit the streets. This is the third stage of production and in chemistry terms is "basic" AKA alkaline and is usually 50% of the strength of No4 which a salt - acid (diamorphine Hydrochloride). No 3 was perfect for smoking so less ppl would die from IV No4. However, many IV users soon learnt to make No3 dissolve by adding an acid (eg citric/vit c /lemon juice etc).

You many wonder why they would bother about deaths and IMO there are 2 reasons for the introduction of No3. Firstly, deaths attract more "heat" from the authorities. Which obviously isnt good for business. And secondly, it means less time/money in production: 1g of No3 yealds about 300-500mg of No4.

No3 also was a gr8 marketing tool - it meant you could just snort or smoke, no nasty needles. This IMO created new markets among ppl who would normaly take this type of drug.

No4 is still manufactured for mainly the Asian markets. And also the licit pharmacuetical business. In the UK a few addicts get prescribed this but its main use is in pallatative care (eg dying cancer patients). see link:

http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/doc/3521.htm

SteveElektro
18-11-2003, 12:35
Australia still only has No.4 as far as I know, it is however of considerably less purity than it was during the heroin boom of the mid/late 90's.

AtxBigBallin
18-11-2003, 21:34
White powder, possibly like the infamous white china shit? Supposedly the bomb but sometimes can be fentanyl

themagicmushroom
19-11-2003, 01:45
I believe the original china white was alpha, methyl-fentanyl

pitbull27
22-11-2003, 05:31
dont know what pure looks like cuz never had any but raw dope is as pure as u will get can come in white, brown lite brown,

negrogesic
22-11-2003, 05:43
Yea china white is alpha-methyl-fentanyl, along with those fentanyl strips.


Oh, and i said "Pure heroin on the street would be a disaster", if you read my post, steve was simply quoting me..........

twgburst
22-11-2003, 06:28
Philly badlands used to have heroin above 90% purity all the time, pure heroin wouldn't be a problem though, but inconsistent purity ranging from 20-80% on a daily basis would KO a ton of people. I have gotten bags that after snorting half of it I puked, when usually I would snort 1 or 2 bags at a time. I often wonder how often people die from the spikes in purity, ahh well they should have been more responsible and tested a small amount instead of baning 3 bags at once. Also shouldn't use alone, and should always have a supply of Narcan around for your friends to use so you don't have to call 9-11. Shooting up drunk isn't a very good idea either, though seems to be a quite popular way to die in the drug culture.

pitbull27
22-11-2003, 09:20
philly got morph and it aint shit nomore

Love In Vein
22-11-2003, 13:14
So why is it always brown, even in the movies where the dealers claim they have 'pure'?

Because the movies are mimicking real life where every drug dealer in the United States claims they have pure stuff when in reality they don't know what they're talking about and they're just trying to make some fast paper.

twgburst
22-11-2003, 18:07
Originally posted by pitbull27
philly got morph and it aint shit nomore
Thats what I have heard because of cops cracking down on it. Didn't know they had morph though.

ebeneezer_geeza
22-11-2003, 23:26
The original CHINA WHITE was No4 smack from Southeast asia, also named Elephant.

Sorry guys u dont have the patent on nicknames. Anyway who cares.

Feel free to look the following up to - Pure pharm heroin is always WHITE.

Do you ppl in other countries have this Diamorphine Hydrochloride AKA heroin

PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING LINKS TO CLARIFY and this controversy need never surface again.

http://www.drugsinfofile.com/heroin.html

http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/doc/3521.htm

ka3ajm
23-11-2003, 19:13
Ok people!!!

The more darker Heroin is, the more pure. Enough said.

uenjymyself
23-11-2003, 19:29
^did you read any of the above post?

twgburst
23-11-2003, 19:51
Originally posted by ka3ajm
Ok people!!!

The more darker Heroin is, the more pure. Enough said.
You've obviously never done black tar heroin. Color doesn't mean shit, I have had white heroin that sucked and brown heroin that was really good. It isn't very hard to find a cut to make it whatever color you want to.

ka3ajm
23-11-2003, 23:03
White powdered Heroin is not as pure as people think it is. Because one, it is cut with other crap such as powdered milk, quinine, and who knows what. White heroin is about 4 to 10%, while the brown to black tar heroin is 50-90% pure.

Another way of knowing is that black tar is very very expensive.

twgburst
24-11-2003, 00:17
You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about, please stop posting misinformation. White heroin can be any purity, as can brown heroin. Also, black tar heroin usually isn't "very very expensive", as it isn't purified very well and usually has a purity of 20-30%, though can be higher or lower.

ebeneezer_geeza
24-11-2003, 13:46
all street heroin can be any purity regardless of the fucking colour.

BUT i was talking about UK pharmaceutical heroin which most certainly is 100% pure and is white.

Or was my Pharmacist ripping me off for the 7 yrs i was prescribed those little darling 30mg amoules?

SteveElektro
24-11-2003, 15:19
I think ka3ajm needs to stop getting his info from his dealer...

DrEIMiller
26-11-2003, 21:35
^^^

Yeah, that's "enough said"!!:D

Since when is black tar heroin expensive? Hmmm, I have a feeling you've been taken to the cleaners many many times.

negrogesic
26-11-2003, 22:08
"China white" is a term that really has not distinct meaning. It could be heroin #4, alpha-methyl-fentanyl, fentanyl, carfentanil, levorphanol, or any other relatively potent opiod. When people have white heroin, they have a tendency to call it "china white", regardless of what it really it. So it essentially no real meaning, other than a white powdered opiate agonist.

ebeneezer_geeza
27-11-2003, 11:51
^what can be blue?

inimical
27-11-2003, 11:59
In general, soft tar heroin is brownish-red and is good for smoking, and hard tar is black and meant for injection or smoking (it is rough to smoke), but there are occasional anomolies (ive seen some very soft dark black stuff, and hard brown tar).

ebeneezer_geeza
27-11-2003, 12:19
yes, but WTF is blue?

negrogesic
27-11-2003, 23:24
Originally posted by inimical
In general, soft tar heroin is brownish-red and is good for smoking, and hard tar is black and meant for injection or smoking (it is rough to smoke), but there are occasional anomolies (ive seen some very soft dark black stuff, and hard brown tar).


^^^Dude, dont repeat what i just said, as if the statement was yours. You didnt even put it in quotations or anything. What the fuck? In the first page of this thread i posted the following (look at the last sentences) :


Like said by others, pure heroin is white powder. This doesnt mean white colored heroin you buy somewhere is pure. Pure heroin is generally not sold to users, and is usually cut to at least some degree by the chemist after making it. If a chemist is bothering to refine it to heroin #4, they would most likely have the sense to immediately cut it, and it would without a doubt be cut again when sold by the distributer. Pure heroin on the street would be a disaster. But, there are forms of brown rocks, which turn into powder, that can sometimes be very powerfull and potent, but not pure by any means. And tar heroin comes in different colors, black, brown, and reddish, and varies greatly on consistently (some is very soft, others is very hard). In general, soft tar heroin is brownish-red and is good for smoking, and hard tar is black and meant for injection or smoking (it is rough to smoke), but there are occasional anomolies (ive seen some very soft dark black stuff, and hard brown tar).

You just copied it and reposted it? Why?