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Need Help Will I ever feel the same after using crystal meth?(Prayers welcomed!)

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Before anything is said and done I may need to point out the fact I have never in my life been severely addicted to neither methamphetamines nor any other synthetic substances.
I smoked cannabis throughout my twenties, tried mdma once which did not go well at all and did "accidentally" take a heroic dose of magic saucers when I was 20 that to this day I'm still processing whether or not I had a NDE and what happened on a spiritual and physical level as it was indescribably intense.

Alright so I'm back again with another episode of chronic post-meth paranoia compulsively wondering everyday for the last month and a half if I really have to accept and embrace the mortifying fact that I did long term damage or possibly some sort of long term(yet temporary) chemical disturbances or internal changes from this total trash substance I was stupidly using.
Over the holidays while suffering from seclusion and hard depression I began talking to my childhood friend of whom I hadn't seen in 6 years and went over to him an his girlfriends place.
I found out immediately they were using and later on out of peer pressure ended up trying their meth by toking out of a water bong a little on and off over mid november this past year then again a few times in December. I stopped completely from around the 19th until the 30th.

The night of the 30th I caught back up with some guy I had met back in october and he was smoking meth off foil that night. I ended up following him a good ways away and he sold me some after coming out of this upstairs apartment building with a piece of paper filled with about a gram of this cloudish white crystal. (later hoping to god it wasn't a kind of bath salts).

So I smoked a little that night got really lifted and stayed up for the following 36 hours or something. I didn't realize it at the time but I was on a binge with little sleep so Im sure this contributed to the unpleasant effects. I had eaten a tiny speck of a shard and took a hit off foil on around 5:00am on Jan 4th.
Other than the below mentioned, I had some symptoms of overamping which included disorientation and vision impairment. An instance of weakness and cold sweats as well.

Its hard to remember but at some point while coming down from the high a while after I got off the phone with my dad I started noticing tightness or pressure in my chest and I could not breathe normally like it felt genuinely hard to get a full breath. My heart rate had to have been pretty high and blood pressure forsure though it wasn't until these symptoms came on I began freaking out and thinking heart attack or stroke. I was incredibly sleepy but couldn't lay down that morning to go to sleep because I thought my heart would stop or my breathing would cease and I'd pass away in my sleep.

Since then I have been to two medical clinics and two ER centers/hospitals and everytime I am discharged after they tell me there is no damage despite my complaints. I had ECG, ekg tests one of which stated (possible left atrial enlargement), blood work tests and even had a damn CT chest scan which I know was overkill but hey me being the paranoid freak I am I was asking for it.

Since those initial symptoms manifested over a month ago I just don't feel the same. My natural breathe feels jacked up and I am obsessing over my mild chest pain/ discomfort/pressure. The lower area of my chest near my upper abdominal region feels bloated or tense almost like someone put a stun gun and shocked my upper abb muscle area. Weird I know but this downright sucks and I just wish everyday I knew what I could do to ease the symptoms, even temporarily.

Blessings and thankyou so much if you got this far reading.....oh and last thing....

P.s. Despite your differing beliefs or whatnot, I Love you all out there with purest intention, enduring or suffering through these times, you are truly loved and cherished by the Almighty forever, never give up on who you are and never ever give in to the lies and deceit of the enemy!
 
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Before anything is said and done I may need to point out the fact I have never in my life been severely addicted to neither methamphetamines nor any other synthetic substances.
I smoked cannabis throughout my twenties, tried mdma once which did not go well at all and did "accidentally" take a heroic dose of magic saucers when I was 20 that to this day I'm still processing whether or not I had a NDE and what happened on a spiritual and physical level as it was indescribably intense.

Alright so I'm back again with another episode of chronic post-meth paranoia compulsively wondering everyday for the last month and a half if
I really have to accept and embrace the mortifying fact that I did long term damage or possibly some sort of long term(yet temporary) chemical
disturbances or internal changes from this total trash substance I was stupidly using.
Over the holidays while suffering from seclusion and hard depression I began talking to my childhood friend of whom I hadn't seen in 6 years and went over to him an his girlfriends place. I found out immediately they were using and later on out of peer pressure ended up trying their meth by toking out of a water bong a little on and off over mid november this past year then again a few times in December. I stopped completely from around the 19th until the 30th.

The night of the 30th I caught back up with some guy I had met back in october and he was smoking meth off foil that night. I ended up following him a good ways away and he sold me some after coming out of this upstairs apartment building with a piece of paper filled with about a gram of this cloudish white crystal.

So I smoked a little that night got lifted and stayed up for the following 36 hours or something. I didn't realize it at the time but I was on a binge with little sleep so Im sure this contributed to the unpleasant effects. I had eaten a tiny speck of a shard and took a hit off foil on around 5:00am on Jan 4th. Its hard to remember but at some point while coming down from the high a while after I got off the phone with my dad I started noticing tightness or pressure in my chest and I could not breathe normally like it felt genuinely hard to get a full breath. My heart rate had to have been pretty high and blood pressure forsure though it wasn't until these symptoms came on I began freaking out and thinking heart attack or stroke. I was incredibly sleepy but couldn't lay down that morning to go to sleep because I thought my heart would stop or my breathing would cease and I'd pass away in my sleep.

Since then I have been to two medical clinics and two ER centers/hospitals and everytime I am discharged after they tell me there is no damage despite my complaints. I had ECG, ekg tests one of which stated (possible left atrial enlargement), blood work tests and even had a damn CT chest scan which I know was overkill but hey me being the paranoid freak I am I was asking for it.

Since those initial symptoms manifested over a month ago I just don't feel the same. My natural breathe feels jacked up and I am obsessing over my mild chest pain/ discomfort/pressure. The lower area of my chest near my upper abdominal region feels bloated or tense almost like someone put a stun gun and shocked my upper abb muscle area. Weird I know but this downright sucks and I just wish everyday I knew what I could do to ease the symptoms, even temporarily.

Blessings and thankyou so much if you got this far reading.....oh and last thing....

P.s. Despite your differing beliefs or whatnot, I Love you all out there with purest intention, enduring or suffering through these times, you are truly loved and cherished by the Almighty forever, never give up on who you are and never ever give in to the lies and deceit of the enemy!
i think just give it some time and you will even out. The brain is an amazing homeostasis machine.
 
Before anything is said and done I may need to point out the fact I have never in my life been severely addicted to neither methamphetamines nor any other synthetic substances.
I smoked cannabis throughout my twenties, tried mdma once which did not go well at all and did "accidentally" take a heroic dose of magic saucers when I was 20 that to this day I'm still processing whether or not I had a NDE and what happened on a spiritual and physical level as it was indescribably intense.

Alright so I'm back again with another episode of chronic post-meth paranoia compulsively wondering everyday for the last month and a half if
I really have to accept and embrace the mortifying fact that I did long term damage or possibly some sort of long term(yet temporary) chemical
disturbances or internal changes from this total trash substance I was stupidly using.
Over the holidays while suffering from seclusion and hard depression I began talking to my childhood friend of whom I hadn't seen in 6 years and went over to him an his girlfriends place. I found out immediately they were using and later on out of peer pressure ended up trying their meth by toking out of a water bong a little on and off over mid november this past year then again a few times in December. I stopped completely from around the 19th until the 30th.

The night of the 30th I caught back up with some guy I had met back in october and he was smoking meth off foil that night. I ended up following him a good ways away and he sold me some after coming out of this upstairs apartment building with a piece of paper filled with about a gram of this cloudish white crystal.

So I smoked a little that night got lifted and stayed up for the following 36 hours or something. I didn't realize it at the time but I was on a binge with little sleep so Im sure this contributed to the unpleasant effects. I had eaten a tiny speck of a shard and took a hit off foil on around 5:00am on Jan 4th. Its hard to remember but at some point while coming down from the high a while after I got off the phone with my dad I started noticing tightness or pressure in my chest and I could not breathe normally like it felt genuinely hard to get a full breath. My heart rate had to have been pretty high and blood pressure forsure though it wasn't until these symptoms came on I began freaking out and thinking heart attack or stroke. I was incredibly sleepy but couldn't lay down that morning to go to sleep because I thought my heart would stop or my breathing would cease and I'd pass away in my sleep.

Since then I have been to two medical clinics and two ER centers/hospitals and everytime I am discharged after they tell me there is no damage despite my complaints. I had ECG, ekg tests one of which stated (possible left atrial enlargement), blood work tests and even had a damn CT chest scan which I know was overkill but hey me being the paranoid freak I am I was asking for it.

Since those initial symptoms manifested over a month ago I just don't feel the same. My natural breathe feels jacked up and I am obsessing over my mild chest pain/ discomfort/pressure. The lower area of my chest near my upper abdominal region feels bloated or tense almost like someone put a stun gun and shocked my upper abb muscle area. Weird I know but this downright sucks and I just wish everyday I knew what I could do to ease the symptoms, even temporarily.

Blessings and thankyou so much if you got this far reading.....oh and last thing....

P.s. Despite your differing beliefs or whatnot, I Love you all out there with purest intention, enduring or suffering through these times, you are truly loved and cherished by the Almighty forever, never give up on who you are and never ever give in to the lies and deceit of the enemy!
Anxiety based on your belief that you "damaged yourself"
 
Anxiety based on your belief that you "damaged yourself"
Hi friend, I understand it plays a role but I mean to ask a frank question without any valid expectation of getting the right answer, why is it that so many folks sweep it under the rug by claiming it is all psychological somehow? When you just know something is bothering you whether breathing or something subtle in your body even compared to how you felt 6 months ago why would it be all anxiety related?

I been using herbal tinctures like valerian root and for lung support but they haven't helped with the symptom. Can damage be subtle enough for scans and tests to overlook what's really going on?
 
Before anything is said and done I may need to point out the fact I have never in my life been severely addicted to neither methamphetamines nor any other synthetic substances.
I smoked cannabis throughout my twenties, tried mdma once which did not go well at all and did "accidentally" take a heroic dose of magic saucers when I was 20 that to this day I'm still processing whether or not I had a NDE and what happened on a spiritual and physical level as it was indescribably intense.

Alright so I'm back again with another episode of chronic post-meth paranoia compulsively wondering everyday for the last month and a half if I really have to accept and embrace the mortifying fact that I did long term damage or possibly some sort of long term(yet temporary) chemical disturbances or internal changes from this total trash substance I was stupidly using.
Over the holidays while suffering from seclusion and hard depression I began talking to my childhood friend of whom I hadn't seen in 6 years and went over to him an his girlfriends place.
I found out immediately they were using and later on out of peer pressure ended up trying their meth by toking out of a water bong a little on and off over mid november this past year then again a few times in December. I stopped completely from around the 19th until the 30th.

The night of the 30th I caught back up with some guy I had met back in october and he was smoking meth off foil that night. I ended up following him a good ways away and he sold me some after coming out of this upstairs apartment building with a piece of paper filled with about a gram of this cloudish white crystal. (later hoping to god it wasn't a kind of bath salts).

So I smoked a little that night got really lifted and stayed up for the following 36 hours or something. I didn't realize it at the time but I was on a binge with little sleep so Im sure this contributed to the unpleasant effects. I had eaten a tiny speck of a shard and took a hit off foil on around 5:00am on Jan 4th.
Other than the below mentioned, I had some symptoms of overamping which included disorientation and vision impairment. An instance of weakness and cold sweats as well.

Its hard to remember but at some point while coming down from the high a while after I got off the phone with my dad I started noticing tightness or pressure in my chest and I could not breathe normally like it felt genuinely hard to get a full breath. My heart rate had to have been pretty high and blood pressure forsure though it wasn't until these symptoms came on I began freaking out and thinking heart attack or stroke. I was incredibly sleepy but couldn't lay down that morning to go to sleep because I thought my heart would stop or my breathing would cease and I'd pass away in my sleep.

Since then I have been to two medical clinics and two ER centers/hospitals and everytime I am discharged after they tell me there is no damage despite my complaints. I had ECG, ekg tests one of which stated (possible left atrial enlargement), blood work tests and even had a damn CT chest scan which I know was overkill but hey me being the paranoid freak I am I was asking for it.

Since those initial symptoms manifested over a month ago I just don't feel the same. My natural breathe feels jacked up and I am obsessing over my mild chest pain/ discomfort/pressure. The lower area of my chest near my upper abdominal region feels bloated or tense almost like someone put a stun gun and shocked my upper abb muscle area. Weird I know but this downright sucks and I just wish everyday I knew what I could do to ease the symptoms, even temporarily.

Blessings and thankyou so much if you got this far reading.....oh and last thing....

P.s. Despite your differing beliefs or whatnot, I Love you all out there with purest intention, enduring or suffering through these times, you are truly loved and cherished by the Almighty forever, never give up on who you are and never ever give in to the lies and deceit of the enemy!
I used to take 180mg of Adderall & powder lift for hours, 7 day meth binges repeatedly. Did those for many years of my life. Also had sepsis which REALLY did a # on my cardiovascular function (I can just tell).

I guess I'm trying to say you will be fine. I also have had recent ECG results that all day I am totally fine. Not sure how old u are but the heart is meant to last a while, you've prolly got a while left in urs. Damage is damage tho. I take some solace in the story of that Finnish soldier, (Hanz Franz McFinnishMan) That took a rediculous amount of meth & basically just ski'd & starved & froze for like 2 weeks. Also hallucinated, lots of hallucinations for like 2 weeks. The reason for mentioning is that the homie lived to 71 years or something ripe like that. If you are young and learn how to take care of yourself you can really, really heal yourshit. ! ! ! =)
 
I used to take 180mg of Adderall & powder lift for hours, 7 day meth binges repeatedly. Did those for many years of my life. Also had sepsis which REALLY did a # on my cardiovascular function (I can just tell).

I guess I'm trying to say you will be fine. I also have had recent ECG results that all day I am totally fine. Not sure how old u are but the heart is meant to last a while, you've prolly got a while left in urs. Damage is damage tho. I take some solace in the story of that Finnish soldier, (Hanz Franz McFinnishMan) That took a rediculous amount of meth & basically just ski'd & starved & froze for like 2 weeks. Also hallucinated, lots of hallucinations for like 2 weeks. The reason for mentioning is that the homie lived to 71 years or something ripe like that. If you are young and learn how to take care of yourself you can really, really heal yourshit. ! ! ! =)

I feel it worth mentioning a binge of two weeks (at most probably ran out much sooner) in those conditions is hard to compare. He was constantly moving which can be neurogenic. He only did it when young then might’ve never touched it again, most users can’t say that.

-GC
 
I feel it worth mentioning a binge of two weeks (at most probably ran out much sooner) in those conditions is hard to compare. He was constantly moving which can be neurogenic. He only did it when young then might’ve never touched it again, most users can’t say that.

-GC
When I was typing that shit out a few days ago I phrased it a bit differently & then had a massive heart palpitation the very exact moment I typed something along the lines of "me being a machine of a human" so I changed it to be more humble so that god would let me live lol
 
Before anything is said and done I may need to point out the fact I have never in my life been severely addicted to neither methamphetamines nor any other synthetic substances.
I smoked cannabis throughout my twenties, tried mdma once which did not go well at all and did "accidentally" take a heroic dose of magic saucers when I was 20 that to this day I'm still processing whether or not I had a NDE and what happened on a spiritual and physical level as it was indescribably intense.

Alright so I'm back again with another episode of chronic post-meth paranoia compulsively wondering everyday for the last month and a half if I really have to accept and embrace the mortifying fact that I did long term damage or possibly some sort of long term(yet temporary) chemical disturbances or internal changes from this total trash substance I was stupidly using.
Over the holidays while suffering from seclusion and hard depression I began talking to my childhood friend of whom I hadn't seen in 6 years and went over to him an his girlfriends place.
I found out immediately they were using and later on out of peer pressure ended up trying their meth by toking out of a water bong a little on and off over mid november this past year then again a few times in December. I stopped completely from around the 19th until the 30th.

The night of the 30th I caught back up with some guy I had met back in october and he was smoking meth off foil that night. I ended up following him a good ways away and he sold me some after coming out of this upstairs apartment building with a piece of paper filled with about a gram of this cloudish white crystal. (later hoping to god it wasn't a kind of bath salts).

So I smoked a little that night got really lifted and stayed up for the following 36 hours or something. I didn't realize it at the time but I was on a binge with little sleep so Im sure this contributed to the unpleasant effects. I had eaten a tiny speck of a shard and took a hit off foil on around 5:00am on Jan 4th.
Other than the below mentioned, I had some symptoms of overamping which included disorientation and vision impairment. An instance of weakness and cold sweats as well.

Its hard to remember but at some point while coming down from the high a while after I got off the phone with my dad I started noticing tightness or pressure in my chest and I could not breathe normally like it felt genuinely hard to get a full breath. My heart rate had to have been pretty high and blood pressure forsure though it wasn't until these symptoms came on I began freaking out and thinking heart attack or stroke. I was incredibly sleepy but couldn't lay down that morning to go to sleep because I thought my heart would stop or my breathing would cease and I'd pass away in my sleep.

Since then I have been to two medical clinics and two ER centers/hospitals and everytime I am discharged after they tell me there is no damage despite my complaints. I had ECG, ekg tests one of which stated (possible left atrial enlargement), blood work tests and even had a damn CT chest scan which I know was overkill but hey me being the paranoid freak I am I was asking for it.

Since those initial symptoms manifested over a month ago I just don't feel the same. My natural breathe feels jacked up and I am obsessing over my mild chest pain/ discomfort/pressure. The lower area of my chest near my upper abdominal region feels bloated or tense almost like someone put a stun gun and shocked my upper abb muscle area. Weird I know but this downright sucks and I just wish everyday I knew what I could do to ease the symptoms, even temporarily.

Blessings and thankyou so much if you got this far reading.....oh and last thing....

P.s. Despite your differing beliefs or whatnot, I Love you all out there with purest intention, enduring or suffering through these times, you are truly loved and cherished by the Almighty forever, never give up on who you are and never ever give in to the lies and deceit of the enemy!
How are you now?
 
How are you now?
Sorry for such an incredibly late reply lol but hey currently i am now in another state (west coast) where i came across the seemingly purest shandy i've ever discovered but now i am struggling with almost daily usage. I only smoke out of decent bubbler through either clean spring water or vapour distilled water if i have any available but man has it been a zany ride thus far especially now that im sharing a place with someone else I have to be very careful with not staying up and doing any at least past 9 or 10pm. I have abstained for 5-6 days or longer during the last 9 -10 months I've been dealing with this but I get pretty fatigued and irritated at fairly small things throughout the period of refraining. I don't use any other substances at all though except for very mild cannabis varieties (indica) which curtails the high later on and helps me to come down.

I never thought id find myself in this weird situation with addiction but it has really inspired me to reach out to others who have been through the same ride and establish the fact of the matter which is we are not alone in our strange battles on this planet and anyone who is actively helping others on here knows what I mean. Godspeed and keep moving towards the light one day at a time friends... ...
 
Hi, mate

I am not judging you in any way at all. Just answering the thread title. But. Seriously dude you need to knock that shit on the head before you get to the stage where you will NOT be the same.

I used to be bad in the meth, indiscriminate use, up for weeks. It took me years to recover. But I did get a lot better. Some things have persisted though. Paranoia and mild psychosis on occasion if I don't look after myself properly. Recovery is possible though.

How old are you?

Feel free to drop me a msg if you think I can help. It's a bad disease.

BB
 
I know nothing about meth as it's almost impossible to find in the UK. So I've heard of very little about experiences other than what I read here on this site about it. But I don't want to talk about the drug but more about the effect it had on you and the way you felt. The words "self fulfilling prophecy" spring to mind. I went out one day and happened to have a huge anxiety attack. It came out of nowhere. After that everytime I went out I'd be worried about having yet another attack until just the thought of opening the front door was enough to bring it on. The first time could have been a coincidence. May I ask about the eord shandy. Is that a purer way to smoke meth?

I'm aware that the first thing you clarified was not your problem but the fact that you were definitely not addicted to meth or any synthetic chemical, then you went on to talk about what was bothering you. I'm just wondering if you have found a cleaner, safer way to smoke this drug them addiction is definitely on your mind, in my opinion. In the UK a shandy is a drink, beer and lemonade. But I think I got it right the first time.

Like you when I first used an addictive drug addiction worried me but not enough to stop me.

Please my darlin' no one is going to judge or criticize you whatever you choose to take. But please listen to that little voice that's warning you. You can hear it, of course you can. But I know the high for me was sho intense that I chose to ignore it. I have to agree with everyone who have already commented and told you to be careful. You're far too precious to disregard your own safety.

I'm just wondering why, if the comedown was so frightening, and j think what you went through would scare most people. If you are still using it after being so afraid may I ask why? Isn't there any alternative you can use that gets you the high when you want it with less of the risks to your mental, mostly, but also your physical wellbeing? If I have got it wrong could a mod possibly delete my post as I don't want to offend or upset anyone.

You know your uniqueness to this world and to this forum is so special. Enjoy, live your life, just don't turn it into a mere existence just for a drug. I believe you still have the choice but only you really know that.

Babygirl. X
 
Hi, mate

I am not judging you in any way at all. Just answering the thread title. But. Seriously dude you need to knock that shit on the head before you get to the stage where you will NOT be the same.

I used to be bad in the meth, indiscriminate use, up for weeks. It took me years to recover. But I did get a lot better. Some things have persisted though. Paranoia and mild psychosis on occasion if I don't look after myself properly. Recovery is possible though.

How old are you?

Feel free to drop me a msg if you think I can help. It's a bad disease.

BB
Greetings amigo hope your having a nice day. Any ways if you don't mind me asking do you recall roughly how long were you were dealing with it ? Were you smoking a bit every now an then or was it sniffing or orally? Any idea the purity of the shard you had?? Over the last couple months If i toke about two moderate hits through clean water it honestly doesn't feel all that strong but would last about 3 or four hours, after the two hour mark though the high already fades and i feel no need to load a small bowl. I don't ever stay up for long periods of time though in my case, i always make sure i'm hydrated as possible and get a good meal in protein smoothies and vitamin c, chelated magnesium to relax from any residual tension or any thing. Special Epson salts for bath soaks in the evenings is good habit as well.
 
Hi Matt,

I'm alive and with my family so it's a good day. Hope you're doing ok.

I was using it for a period of about three years with gradually increasing frequency. Mainly smoked but often sniffed and oral as well. It was pretty high purity, it hadn't been stepped on or adulterated. A couple of moderate hits would have me up all night no problem.

You sound like you're pretty mindful of trying to do the right things to look after yourself and slow the damage. So good luck with that.

My advice would still be to stop for your long term health but you sound like you're currently managing your use fairly responsibly for now.

BB
 
I've endured, struggled with, & recovered from alcoholism and also addictions to IV cocaine, opioids, & methamphetamine.

Methamphetamine was by far the easiest addiction to kick.
Hi my friend thank you so much for chiming in on here much appreciation. So i've noticed how in the following days usually after running out or just when needing to take a break and then after not having any available i get really tired and sluggish especially on the second or third day but if i go long enough it seems to fade but takes more than a week or so. Is this fairly normal for most people or does it only occur for some folks? Are there any proven supplements,powders or remedies to mitigate the symptoms and make it more managable? What worked for you personally?
 
What worked for you personally?
Lots of sleep, lots of water, and plenty of real food (no junk food) supplemented with vitamins (especially C & B-complex). Always take vitamins with food or they don't get absorbed well and may cause tummy issues.
Try to get some sunshine, as it stimulates the feel-good chemicals your body naturally produces.

Other than that, time.

Best wishes.
 
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