Why does morphine make me hyper. I set an amount. But I do want to slow down

[Iamfreetoday1]

I wake take my med of liquid morphine 15 mg at a time. Then I find taking 50mg makes me hyper why? Thought the opposite.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Sometimes when I do heroin it makes me the same. I cannot sleep, spend all night writing or drawing, feel hyper etc, I call it "speed gear" as it feels a small bit like speed in a way.

I've found from talking to others in my social circle they also have had this, what actually causes it is beyond me though but yeah it seems quite a normal & common thing.

As far as I know morphine to heroin potency is 4 times by weight (Thanks W.S. Burroughs) so if that is true I can fully understand where you're coming from. How long you been taking oral moprhine?
The only times I've done medical grade / clean morphine was that "ora morph" stuff direct out of a palliative care bag & it put me on my arse but I was just drinking it like a milkshake to be fair.

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

Sometimes when I do heroin it makes me the same. I cannot sleep, spend all night writing or drawing, feel hyper etc, I call it "speed gear" as it feels a small bit like speed in a way.

I've found from talking to others in my social circle they also have had this, what actually causes it is beyond me though but yeah it seems quite a normal & common thing.

As far as I know morphine to heroin potency is 4 times by weight (Thanks W.S. Burroughs) so if that is true I can fully understand where you're coming from. How long you been taking oral moprhine?
The only times I've done medical grade / clean morphine was that "ora morph" stuff direct out of a palliative care bag & it put me on my arse but I was just drinking it like a milkshake to be fair.

For 2 years since a broken shoulder. Gave me codeine but I was cwf it so I told doc major pain still. I had a doc from Africa. She gave me anything I asked for 60mg codeine pills. Then loads of gabapentin and then offered oral morph. Got to be careful. It's 1ml/ 15mg stuff so 5ml syring is 65mg morph. MABYE that's why so hyper. Ta for talking first time iv had feedback. Ot had brown since I was 30 something. 50 something now. N am alive???. Miricles happen mate

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

For 2 years since a broken shoulder. Gave me codeine but I was cwf it so I told doc major pain still. I had a doc from Africa. She gave me anything I asked for 60mg codeine pills. Then loads of gabapentin and then offered oral morph. Got to be careful. It's 1ml/ 15mg stuff so 5ml syring is 65mg morph. MABYE that's why so hyper. Ta for talking first time iv had feedback. Ot had brown since I was 30 something. 50 something now. N am alive???. Miricles happen mate

75mg can't even count ha brain cells on half life

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

For 2 years

Been using heroin since 2001 (it is one day away from my 18th year of using, first smoke was the day the WTC came down) & I still get that feeling.

My theory on it is down to the way some people also cannot process DXM with me being one of them.
"P450 enzyme known as 2D6, or CYP2D6. A significant portion of the population has a functional deficiency in this enzyme and are known as poor CYP2D6 metabolizers." & as far as I know DXM is in the same family as opiates even though its effect is far removed from heroin / morphine. My theory is people that cannot process DXM sometimes get a far stronger hit from morphine & it causes that effect. I have ZERO medical traning etc may I add, this is just my theory on the subject from experience.

YMMV............

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

Been using heroin since 2001 (it is one day away from my 18th year of using, first smoke was the day the WTC came down) & I still get that feeling.

My theory on it is down to the way some people also cannot process DXM with me being one of them.
"P450 enzyme known as 2D6, or CYP2D6. A significant portion of the population has a functional deficiency in this enzyme and are known as poor CYP2D6 metabolizers." & as far as I know DXM is in the same family as opiates even though its effect is far removed from heroin / morphine. My theory is people that cannot process DXM sometimes get a far stronger hit from morphine & it causes that effect. I have ZERO medical traning etc may I add, this is just my theory on the subject from experience.

YMMV............

Yes true what you say my lass cannot get pain relief from opiods her body as you say has lack of uptake receptors for many of them. I don't get any high from gabapentin but pregaba is a different story it works wonder at boom smack I'm alive time. Olso tramadal kills me can't take sweat faint in a bad way. Cosine crushed up is great with me. Also I'm a benzonought love having my tea script but empty way before due. Actually got 20mg ones of my African doctor at one point????. Oh she is not there anymore. They said she had to go home family thing. I think they looked at her prescribing and booted her all the way home. Go dark and can get many have a good vendor. You safe today and more info is always good on chemical balances between plant made meds and factory ones. Hamilton is good for info.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I don't get any high from gabapentin but pregaba is a different story it works wonder

lol

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

lol

Lol so true do you chemical reaserch into why nurotin is gabapentin as is oregaba. Stronger I know but tyed 5000mg gaba's no worky .) :

 

[mtu mwendawazimu]

Thanks for being here @Zopiclone bandit - I'm going to move this to BDD to see if OP can get more answers.

NMI -> BDD

 

[Nicomorphinist]

I get to where when I have a nice body-load type feeling from narcotics that the insomnia is not the stark, problematic type, but more like the narcotic saying "Don't go to sleep now -- I worked very hard to fix this."

Above and beyond that a lot of the 4-phenylpiperidines and benzimidizoles do provide the physiological basis for insomnia -- many of the former cannot be taken with Maois or SSRIs -- it happens with natural and semi-synthetics, and morphine certainly. This is a good example of one of the many reasons that narcotics are not merely depressants from a pharmacological standpoint.

There is some evidence that hydromorphone increases serotonin levels, the cocaine-like properties of oxycodone are discussed in a number of threads here, and I recall Martindales and the Österreichisches Arzneibuch listing exhilaration as a symptom of codeine and DHC overdose, which is to say, eating three T-4s instead of two and so on,

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

I wake take my med of liquid morphine 15 mg at a time. Then I find taking 50mg makes me hyper why? Thought the opposite.

It's because if your like Mr you waken in pain.then get ready slow sore coffee.thenvtake a slurp of liquid morph.20 mins later.clean kitchen.clean then project let's build plant boxes.apart from proffesdional reasons given mabye?its the relief to feel in zero pain ino

 

[Hippy Flower Fairy]

Most opioids and also some benzos like clonazepam make me a bit hyper too, it's very annoying, I want downers, I'd take an upper if I wanted to be hyper

 

[Iamfreetoday1]

Its taking away pain in body and brain=hyper

 

[Keif' Richards]

Me with a prescription of liquid Morphine. Wake, take prescribed dose, go about day. 15 minutes later, get urge to take more. Spend ten minutes in serious contemplation on the pro's and cons. Then 10 minutes fighting the urge to take more, already knowing that there is not choice. 10 minutes later, go back into my room, sit on bed, stare at bottle, read contents, smile, knowing that it's mine and all mine. Nobody can take it from me. Just don't think about it.

Put it in a drawer, close the drawer, lock it. Sit on bed for five minutes. Have a pornographic stream of consciousness in which Opioids and sexual desire become one in the same. Think about how the bottle vaguely resembles the female form. Have another, non-pornographic dream (you just came after all, refractory period and all that). Imagine what life could be like if it were just you and that bottle, alone, on a farm somwhere on the plains. Just you and your little children, who are slightly smaller bottles of Morphine.

Wake up. Decide you need to be responsible, You get a hold of yourself and resolve not to take anymore. Open your computer and decide to get some work done. Satisfaction.

Then you realize you drank all of the Morphine while you were in sub-conscious mode and that's the only reason you feel like a human.

 

[plumbus-nine]

I get this too. As long as tolerance isn't too high, a good dose of heroin or morphine made me staying up and computering all night.. somehow it even compensates for sleep, much like the dissociatives, and the combo of disso + morphine is really gourmet but also pretty dangerous psychologically, it made me trust people I should never have dealt with..

There are two kinds of mu opioid receptors - stimulating ones and inhibiting ones. Tolerance to the stimulating ones develops fast and can seemingly be antagonized by ultra low dose naltrexone. Didn't find the will yet to try this but guess I have no other chance to get off morphine. I'm stumbling with that for maybe 2 months now. Always going over the first withdrawal with pregabalin etc. then find normality without endorphins (as tolerance needs time to build down) just sad and worthless so I take a small dose or kratom and bang, back is the withdrawal. ULN lowers tolerance, I need to try this but it requires a prescription here because of the structural similarity to opioids lol these politicians understand nothing of pharmacology.

 

[Bad Obsession]

I wake take my med of liquid morphine 15 mg at a time. Then I find taking 50mg makes me hyper why? Thought the opposite.

Dunno about morphine, it's been that long since I've used it but oxycodone kinda energizes me. Feel really good but manage to get all kinds of shit done