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Gumboots

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Hello, I'm a 22 y/o male living in victoria and attending university.

currently I have been sharing a house with another dude for just over a year. we were acquaintances before school and since living together we became 'friends'. I never really liked the guy because he is a complete melvin and my hidden agenda's are something he would strongly disagree with.

I have to mention I have been a daily pot smoker since I was 18 and have smoked every day in the house since living with this guy undetected.

A week ago he pulled me up in the kitchen and said he thought he could smell smoke in the house and tried to find the source and went through my room. on my desk there was my iphone 4s case which i use as a mix bowl and had a tiny bit of leftovers, along with a half emptied ciggerrette. this apparently gave him warrant to search deeper into my room, including cupboards and wardrobes. he discovered my bong, a sealed half bag and the bag ive been picking from with about 5grams left in it. he also found my aldi's bag which had various other paraphernalia like pipes, grinders , tins and shit ive collected over the years which i never use but just store away.

He basically changed his attitude and personallity towards me and was particularly annoyed and surprised when i said i'd been doing it since day 1 without him knowing. he tried playing the 2nd hand smoke game, but i said you cant say that when you have never noticed it until now. I don't even know if he actually did smell smoke, I'm pretty open about my smoking to other people so maybe someone has said something, i dont know. he stopped talking to me and tried belittling me like I was a criminal. Considering I work 22 hours a week + full time study, where he has been forever unemployed and getting paid by centerlink to do the absolute minimum possible, I own a $15k car I bought myself to which he got given one, completely tidy where as he leaves dishes in his room and in the kitchen for days to the point where they are impossible to scrub, and finally completely self dependent and not relying on the government or top ups from parents like him.

After a week of the discovery, he caught me again in my room, this time red handed, and decided that was the final straw and is going to report me to the university. he tried to argue he didnt really have a problem with it, but it was illegal and didnt want to risk getting himself 'convicted'. while I absolutely do understand this, there is no way someone can find out because nobody goes into my room unless they are snooping. the cleaner come once a fortnight but only into the common areas. we have actually been warned twice in one month when I was away during the holidays, because the kitchen was a pigsty and the loungeroom had empty pizza boxes and dvd's lying around everywhere. it was asif he was the stereotypical messy stoner.

it come to a point where if he wanted to play games then I'd have to play along too. I bought an external HDD and jumped on his computer and copied absolutely everything. I took screenshots of browser history on torrenting websites & his bittorrent client which he never cleaned. I took screenshots of the blogs and websites he downloads music from.

I decided if he is going to use the legal arguement side of things, I'd be happy to jump on board with a play of my own. I confronted him with a smirk on my face and told him that I discovered he had been illegally downloading in our house and I wasn't happy about it. I didn't like that he was risking ourselfs to massive fines and imprisonment, or getting kicked out of the university house since this was illegal activity in our house. I told him i went onto his pc and copied everything onto a hard drive and will be presenting it as evidence when the university confronts me about his complaint. I told him that I would not lie about using cannabis to the university people and will find somewhere else to live. He was not happy that I went onto his pc (funny huh?) and was quite confident he was not going to get in trouble for doing something as soft as 'downloading a few movies and tv shows like everyone else does'.

I know it's a soft contradiction and that I am probably going to be kicked out, but I really am hoping to take this dickhole down with me. The fact that the fat pig can do whatever he wants and because im doing something illegal and because im 'doing drugs' makes me a bad person just shits me and I cant let him get away with it. this guy is the definition of someone who is useless and would be culled if earth ever come to that and he thinks he has more right to be in the house than I do. if he doesn't agree with what I do fine, he could of at least asked me to move out if he was that bothered with it instead of immediately trying to ruin my life.

I guess the real question is do I actually have any legs to stand on when it comes to a situation like this? Was my hard drive purchase a good investment or are they just gonna throw it out the door and not bother with it. I'm looking forward to the arguement if they pick and choose what laws people can & cant break.
 
Can an accusation get you thrown out? Wouldn't the university's people (security, campups staff, w/e) have to catch you in the act of possessing illegal drugs on campus? Evidence gathered from a non-LEO source is just cause to open or further an investigation, not to end one....


I would think so long as you stopped smoking and stashing in the house you wouldn't have anything to worry about. That's a pain in the ass, though... might be best to find a new roommate.
 
I don't know if BL can offer legal advice like this, but I can tell you this guy is an asshole

If you aren't on a lease, then just say fuck it and find a better place. If you're on a lease, and it's technically a dorm/apartment on school grounds, it could be a problem, but with all the crazy shit college kids do I kind of feel that it's not likely they'll investigate. I don't know if your state is lenient, but honestly a bong and a small amount of pot isn't something to go after unless your roommate makes a big deal about it.

Avoid your douche roommate, blow smoke out of Windows and avoid confrontation with the guy just so he won't complain again. Get out and find a pot-friendly place as soon as possible, and good luck
 
It's true, we cannot offer legal advice here on Bluelight. Did this guy actually confiscate your stuff or just find it and confront you? There are so many variables with laws in different countries/states and municipalities. You need to familiarize yourself with the university policies, get rid of everything in that room and seek advice from a lawyer to be safe. Personally, I would move asap if at all possible. Wish you the best.
 
What a fucking dick head. You raised a good point with him about the illegal downloading and you have evidence, he would be mad to try and take your weed use further, yes they are both illegal and yes ALOT of people do both of them. He should worry about himself and not about what you are doing, I hate people like that.

It sounds like you have got him in a situation where he hopefully wouldn't tell on you (snitch).

A good idea would be to ditch bongs and all the other shit and get a vape. The smell is nothing like the burning weed from bongs or joints, and a vape is much healthier on your lungs. check out Australian vaporisers via google if you are interested.

A move might be a good idea tho, if he is that much of an idiot, it might be time to leave, for many reasons.
 
He needs evidence not here say based on a warrantless illegal search. He can complain you invaded his privacy using his pc and downloading his info rather than taking a snap shot or video of the history and content. Honestly this sounds like an issue you should go to a lawyer for as no one here can provide legal advice like this.... Especially with you being in a different country than say myself.

Edit: I'll be a lil more clear although the hard drive could be used as evidence that you took info off of his computer illegally especially when you admit to it. Not saying for sure as I don't understand the legal system enough just things you should check into.
 
it's really doubtful a lawyer can advise anything without knowing whether or not the university authorities would take this to the police. Gumboots, if the house is university property, you may not have the rights as a tenant that you would have renting from a landlord, which means they may be able to search your room if they have reason to suspect you've got drugs in there. The best thing would be to keep your stash elsewhere and either move out or try to compromise with your roommate by offering to only toke outside.
 
Since his roomies attitude is fear of him getting busted vs being around it smoking outside might make things worse. Just something to consider
 
i have a friend who got kicked out of college for having weed in his dorm, and about 6 years later I can tell you it wasn't worth it. His life isn't in ruins but he would have been better off with a college degree from a university versus having to go through community college.

if you are at all serious about graduating and getting a degree not to mention education, it's not worth the confrontation. Get rid of everything and as far as your roommate and everyone except people you smoke with- you "quit" smoking weed. I agree that your roommate is a cunt, and probably hates life and wants everyone around him to do so too. Just lay low and get off campus as soon as possible, find some like minded people to be around.

Don't let some jackass ruin your life. Your education will be far more important to you 10 years down the road, and ultimately that is why you are there. Be smart.
 
i have a friend who got kicked out of college for having weed in his dorm, and about 6 years later I can tell you it wasn't worth it. His life isn't in ruins but he would have been better off with a college degree from a university versus having to go through community college.

if you are at all serious about graduating and getting a degree not to mention education, it's not worth the confrontation. Get rid of everything and as far as your roommate is concerned and everyone except people you smoke with- you "quit" smoking weed. I agree that your roommate is a cunt, and probably hates life and wants everyone around him to do so too. Just lay low and get off campus as soon as possible, find some like minded people to be around.

Don't let some jackass ruin your life. Your education will be far more important to you 10 years down the road, and ultimately that is why you are there. Be smart.
 
Just man up and move out. This tit for tat bullshit just makes you look immature.

It's not that unreasonable for him not to want you to smoke week in a communal dorm. The consequences of being thrown out for him are far more life changing than for you because he downloaded a DVD torrent.

Dorms are for people to meet new friends and then move out into their own place like adults. Find someone who is compatible with your drug use, move on and get over it. An eye for and eye until everyone is blind.
 
thank you for the replies.

the reason why I havnt moved out is because this place is quite cheap, away from neighbours and gives me the sense of freedom. my idea was I would live here as long as I could until something goes wrong, to which this has happened.

we had a discussion today. we both apologised for how we acted but he is firm that he does not want to live in this house if im smoking weed. has has since promised he would not confront the university. apparently he has had a bad week.

he never confiscated or touched any of my things he simply described where and what and it was 100% accurate. he has an iphone so anyone with half a brain could take a video or pictures or something (thats what I would do if i was a miserable human trying to ruin someone elses life).

he said I was his perfect idea of a room mate until he discovered what I was doing. see he is studying to be a PE / health teacher and is completely against smoking in general.

i told him my background about cannabis use and why I use it and he is more understanding but still insists i quit.

after all this I understand that this is infact my fault for not being upfront and honest in the first place. despite the fact I think he is a twat who has been brainwashed into being 'the perfect citizen' i can now recognise that all of this could of been avoided if i was honest from the start. its just not easy to confront a melvin about something like this.

it is good to know that we have both come to our senses and at least have some options on where to go from here. it is also good he is no longer threatening my education as having a direction in life is the only thing that is keeping me going.

he insists i stop smoking weed all together and i told him I would try and if i failed i would move out on my own accord.

i have 0 intentions on giving up weed because i know i will go straight back to poly-abusing benzo's & opiates. my drug use is an 'issue' that only i can ever understand and can only deal with on my accord.

all we needed to do was talk because after i reminded him of his flaws and how I tolerate and accept them, i think he began to realise that maybe nothing has changed other than the fact he knows i like to mellow out alot.

i am going to let things roll for a little longer. no doubt he is much more aware of what is going on behind my room door, but maybe he will realise that it never has and never will affect him in any way. we each do our own thing. in the mean time, i have more money that i can spend on rent which opens my options up greatly. it is just a massive pain in the ass because i have to find time to a) find a place, b) sus it out, c) evaluate room mates , d) deal with the anxieties of changing environments and living with new people, all while juggling work and university.

i guess these are the things i have to deal with if i am choosing to live the lifestyle I am and therefore i will accept the compromises.

thank you for the advice in this thread and thank you for pointing out my immaturity because reading back on this i can sure see it.
 
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its worth mentioning that university people never visit our house. its not on campus, but it is owned by the university and shares similar rules.

we have a cleaner who comes in fortnightly and she is a lovely lady. she never goes into our rooms and only checks the common areas and washing machines and stuff. her and I have polite conversations with eachother and sometimes have a coffee. i get the sense that if she ever found something in my room, and not in a common area, she would give me a blanket warning.

about my use, i simply pack cones that i can clear and blow out the window in 1 action. i am pretty good at what i do and often my room where i actually smoke wont even smell like smoke. I have never ever smoked anywhere in the house other than in my room. I hate the smell of smoke in a house as much as anyone, and if things arent tidy im not happy.

maybe i can get him drunk one day and get him to have a took on a j. might changes the guys life the better
 
I think you need to get some kind of locked box with a padlock or something where you can keep some of your stuff safe and secure since he was going through your room!

And him telling the Uni sounds like BS.

They would need proof.
 
It sounds like you have got him in a situation where he hopefully wouldn't tell on you (snitch).



In the United States, he's actually in a situation that's very close to blackmailing his roommate. "If you tell on me for smoking weed, I'll tell on you for pirating digital files. So don't tell on me and I won't tell on you." I can't speak for other countries, though...

I don't think it's quite at that point if the OP is the whole story, but still... shady area to be in...



Fuck the roommate but hey, he pays (or has been paid for) to live there too. If something you do makes him uncomfortable, it's not his fault that you hid it from day 1 so that it would only become an issue later on. You hid it for a reason, am I right? Just putting that out there...
 
Why are you being so immature about this? Let me tell you, I lost a full college scholarship to Drexel, and also spent over a year in jail because of a very similar situation to yours. Stop being so god damn stubborn, get rid of your shit, and finish college. Smoke with friends, and only smoke on the property if he's not home.

You are really having this hard of a choice to choose between being a college grad, or smoking some bud?

You're being a fucking idiot, dont ruin your life like I did. You're the one breaking the law, and I assume the one breaking the lease agreement.
 
So this thread has run it's course. This issue is not directly related to cannabis use and it's been reposted to SO, check the version there if you have anything more to add
 
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