Earlier this year, i started to develop a lump under my nipple while on a high tren dose. It never seemed to progress and went away after the blast.
Well, i am on a higher dose of deca than I've ever run before, and this lump has reappeared and doubled in size.
It's not visible, but it feels like the size of a quarter right now.
So, this is DECA gyno. I believe the proper treatment is proviron or caber. I have some caber en route. What else do i need to do if i don't want to stop my deca that I'm making sick gains on.
I also would like any info on administration of caber[/QUOTE]
What exactly are you taking now, also what have you recently taken?? AAS, anti-E's etc..?
Caber won't do shite for gyno.... Deca aromatizes via the androgen receptor (AR) this could be the likely cause of your gyno... there is no way of stopping the estrogenic effects of deca apart from cessation of its use... Its also crucial to remember that nandrolone is in fact estrogenic, estimated at about 60 percent as estrogenic as estradiol itself, because it can activate Estrogen receptor elements through the AR. Neither PR blockers, aromatase inhibitors or estrogen receptor blockers had any significant effect on the estrogenic action of nandrolone.
From Karl Hoffman:
The first step in combating the development of gynecomastia, or male breast enlargement, is to eliminate the causative agent: the anabolic steroid. Drug-induced gynecomastia almost invariably resolves on its own when a person quits taking the drugs responsible for it, if caught before permanent fibrosis develops.
Unfortunately, most AAS users don't want to employ this simple approach, for obvious reasons, so the foregoing will all be under the assumption that a person wants to prevent or treat gyno and still continue steroid use.
Sticking with nolva would be best (you must first drop the deca). An Ai won't do anything for you that the nolva won't unless you are diagnosed with high estrogen levels, in which longer term treatment is necessary and an AI would do you well.
If your gyno has progressed past a certain size, an endo will surely recommend surgery, and he would be right. But as long as you fall under the type 1 gyno category, it should still be treatable by restoring your A:E ratio. Some of this may still happen naturally, as you recover further from your product use.
Nandrolone is estrogenic through the AR.
Even though nandrolone hardly aromatizes, and has no real effect at the ER (in some assays nandrolone is 60% as estrogenic as estradiol itself, but use of SERMs and AI's had little effect) it can have a profound estrogenic effect by activating estrogen response elements (ERE's) in the DNA through androgen receptor transactivation. That means the only way to stop estrogenic issues from nandrolone are to quit using it.
