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I started another thread but I might as well ask here too: what kratom product would be most likely to produce opiate dreams, you know, the disjointed thoughts and images when you lay down and close your eyes while on an opiate. Bupe would give this to me after years of being on it, but this Bali? Nope. If I take it when I'm in withdrawal I notice it seems to kick in and surprisingly reminds me of snorted oxy. The strong opiate effect wears off quickly though, faster than oxy by far, leaving me slightly itchy and sedated, but not really feeling at all like an opioid. Not bad, but not great.
Would I be able to have those opiate dreams with a full spectrum tincture or uei? I love the really fast, hard hitting pure opioid euphoria taking 9g on an empty stomach while in withdrawal produces, perhaps sublingual FST or UEI would do the same?
Ham
Sounds like you're in pursuit of a nod. IME a nod cannot be achieved from plain leaf at any dose below what I refer to as "THE VOMIT CEILING". Even when I combined my Kratom with diphenhydramine & a benzodiazepine like Xanax I was still very lucid albeit extremely euphoric. The lack of nod isn't surprising once you take a look at the alkaloid content and their various effects on the CNS/PNS. This would lead me to recommend an extract of 7-OHM (if one does exist) first and Mitragynine second.
Personally I can't give you a recommendation on anything beyond plain leaf because I know what happens when I get access to powerful opioids.