I have been taking suboxone for a year, now. I have had my share of side effects from it: sweating, headache, insomnia etc... lately, about an hour after it dissolves. I get INTENSE headaches, find it difficult to breathe, heart palpations. Plus, the insomnia is getting worse. My dose has not changed. I take 2mg twice a day. I have been the hospital, and they cant find anything wrong with me. Has anybody experienced this. Am I safe to assume. Thst these feeling are from the drug. I would appreciate anyones insights. Please amd thank you!!
I took Suboxone for years, first time trying it was in 03, a friend and I were dope sick and went to this dude house to buy some dope or oxy or a fent patch, anything that could get us well, he didnt had any but he pulls out two 8mg orange pills that i hadnt seen before and says something like its like methadone or some shit, my friend and i were disappointed that he didnt have heroin and we were really sick so we took them (i still remember the guy telling us, "dont swallow them, let them dissolve under your tongue" lol) and 15 minutes later we got well and even had a bit of an energy boost, we thought in that moment "this is the greatest invention of the twenty-first century (even though its a medication of the 20th century)" how wrong we were. Anyways that's lil story of the first time hearing, seeing and taking Suboxone.
Now regarding your case with the headaches and insomnia. I remember getting nasty headaches for a lil over month, these were very painful ones (years later i had an 6 to 7 week case of cluster headaches AKA suicide headaches, medically speaking they are regarded as one of the worst pains a person could get, yeah....that nickname is for something), i was prescribed two 8mg daily, one in the morning one if the afternoon. Very quickly i noticed that if i took the afternoon one a bit later it would cut my sleep, get insomnia and feel kinda pumped for the whole night, kinda wired. Also very quickly i noticed that this is a very powerful med and that i didnt really need the afternoon dose, so by myself i started taking 12mg instead of the 16mg, then just 8mg in the morning and it would hold me for the day no problem, so by not taking it in the late afternoon or evening no more insomnia. At that time, the suboxone was giving me an energy boost but i was getting the headaches, started taking them with two tylenols, sometimes it worked sometimes it didnt, started taking less than the 8mg and i felt like the headaches was less intense, also sometimes i got them and other times i didnt get them, after almost 5 weeks of ALWAYS getting headaches i felt a bit of improvement. Nothing to do about the sweating though, i got that all the time when i was on them. Now i started doing something very stupid (and no, i aint taking about precipitated wds, i got many of those with the damn Subox and still having heroin in my system, they suck bad) i started sniffing them. As I mentioned before, i got the 8mg white pill (no Orange ones were i live in Europe, in NY all i got were the orange ones) and they are easy to grind to powder, making a very clean fine powder with no residue and it didnt burn the nose at all and it didnt fuck up my nostrils, it gave me a lil dope euphoria rush (at the beginning, then it was probably psychosomatic, all in my head,plus i had heard (which was bs btw) that like liquid methadone, subox will fuck up your mouth, your gums and maybe a tooth would fall. The headaches subsided to the point were it was weird when i actually got one, also i started using less, like 2 to 4mg per day and if i wanted to get a lil buzz going i would sniff 8 to 10 12mg, no 16mg, because it gave me headaches, it was a lot of powder and i just felt weird, thats the thing with Suboxone its a weird med. Years of sniffing them, which even though i didnt get cravings for dope its still addict behavior.
Anyways I see that you are taking the lowest pill dose they make (2mg.....at least they were when i was taking them), Maybe you can just take 1mg (which even though is half your morning dose, im sure it can hold u), also in the afternoon take em as early as u can so it doesnt fuck up your sleep, also 1mg, or see if with 1mg it can hold u throughout the day, if u think that going from 4mg to 1mg u are going to get sick or something, then start with 2mg (one as soon as u wake up, like use an alarm to take them early if you are not a morning person and one early afternoon) you will be surprised how powerful suboxone really is and the long ass half life it has. With this medication sometimes less is more but it varies A LOT from person to person. Im not recommending you to administer them like i did, im just being honest, snorted them for years and never did any nostril damage, a bit of a buzz and no more headaches.
I do have to agree with
@Deru here, Suboxone is a fucked up drug, some people love it and give praise to it, some people regain their life back, shit even i believe that its a great medicine to help somebody kick heroin or fetty, to use it for a couple of weeks tops BUT as a replacement maintenance drug, HELL NO, its an evil bastard and if you are getting all those side effects, after a year of taking em, maybe you should try switching to methadone (which is another hellish drug to kick, if you want to live an opiate free life, im on day 74 after jumping from 20mg of methadone) or maybe if you feel ready or want it, give it a try and quit them, but thats a huge and very personal decision. I can tell you this though, those side effects are going to increase, like instead of an energy boost, you feel unmotivated, you feel tired all the time, you feel very dependent of them, like they are on your mind if you have to make a two week trip or something , also lil by lil it will eat away your libido until your sex drive plummets, some plp get really fat on it (maybe because plp get lazy on it) your emotions are numbed, and not in a euphoric dope kinda of way but in a shitty horrible way, you become very indifferent, and overall you just dont feel like yourself anymore, like your true self is gone, your soul aint there, its just this dark cloud following you, if you can relate to some or any of these side effects that im describing, then rest assure they are going to come, it might take a while, and to quit suboxone uffff, thats another story.....but for some, it has given them their life back, a second chance and then some....i was NOT one of those cases. Anyways sorry for the long ass reply, just wanted to share my experience with this drug that for so many years was part of my life to the point were it took my soul, slowly but surely.
