uhh, like a hot knife thru butter.
and DF banned my IP address for attempting to post this for some reason.
In the name of science, for those who seek the TRUTH and for the noble sake of information I was urged to put this information out there. Urged to pause Netflix, stop munching on Doritos and sit down and type this out.
Let me start by saying that although my moral compass may be a weak one at times, I do have a conscience and I would never publish information that would harm anyone or hinder anyone's recovery. That being said, I don't believe in the vivitrol shot neither does my psychiatrist nor do many esteemed clinicians in the medical field. I was also completely stunned that since the dawn of the naltrexone implant and the vivitrol shot not but two posts - cut deep into the search engine's results - turned up this information for me to learn. I tried BL, I tried opiophile and I tried DF, two sources, one an NIH abstract and the other just an anecdotal report
I put this out there because many users have been pressured into the shot, got it unwillingly or just realized they made a horrible irreversible mistake. For me the shot was just a horrible mistake and the depression and malaise that followed was a very dark place indeed. What I discovered was that this breakthrough, quite literally, transformed me into a happy individual for the next two months and although after I discontinued the shot I experienced a series of relapses and recoveries it is my belief that had I not discovered this my recovery would lie no closer than it does at the moment.
Disclaimer: DO NOT TRY THIS WHILE THERE MAY BE ALCOHOL, BENZODIAZEPINE OR BARBITURATES IN THE BODY. Everyone is different, some may get mildly buzzed, others may get very high, but I can assure the reader with confidence that if on the SHOT they will not go into PWDs. This may not be the case for those taking the Naltrexone 50mg pill - a hefty daily dose. Buprenorphine's affinity values hover near those of Naltrexone's but a breakthrough with those plasma levels is doubtful, however in this case, bupe will not push naltrexone off the receptors, it will simply fail to bind to them. I strongly advise anyone trying this to start off with a small test dose orally before attempting to insufflate or IV.
My Experience:
12 Days into my second consecutive vivitrol shot I was up late unable to sleep again and digging through forum post after forum post trying to find methods to breakthrough the shot that didn't include fentanyl and its derivatives. I found one NIH abstract detailing affinities when compared to plasma levels and one report of a user like myself whom ingested buprenorphine (suboxone) while on vivitrol. Their results were fruitful and they were able to breakthrough succesfully. I had no reason to believe anyone would be so cruel as to publish a false report that would cause possibly dozens of readers to go into horrible precipitated withdrawal or overdose. I rarely ingest a substance for recreational purposes through any means but IV. No test dose for me, balls to the wall, just shoot and pray. I loaded a little less than 1mg of an orange suboxone pill into a clean 1cc rig, tied off, pushed the plunger and begged GOD not to let me go into the dreaded PWDs. 20 seconds went by and no PWDs but no rush. I clean up my works and light a cigarette and WHAM (5 minutes after plunger went down) I felt like I did the first day I took a sub, christ the first day I took and opiate, euphoria, energy, lust for life.
If anyone tries to tell you this won't work, ask them..."what reason other than speculation do you have to believe it won't work?" and I can promise you they will say something like: "well you know that suboxone makes you go in WDs if you don't wait long enough after taking a full agonist" or "you have to wait 7 days after taking subs to start vivitrol" or "that is so stupid dude" they won't cite scientific studies or give you anecdotal reports to support it won't work because they don't exist. I just gave you one that does.
and DF banned my IP address for attempting to post this for some reason.
In the name of science, for those who seek the TRUTH and for the noble sake of information I was urged to put this information out there. Urged to pause Netflix, stop munching on Doritos and sit down and type this out.
Let me start by saying that although my moral compass may be a weak one at times, I do have a conscience and I would never publish information that would harm anyone or hinder anyone's recovery. That being said, I don't believe in the vivitrol shot neither does my psychiatrist nor do many esteemed clinicians in the medical field. I was also completely stunned that since the dawn of the naltrexone implant and the vivitrol shot not but two posts - cut deep into the search engine's results - turned up this information for me to learn. I tried BL, I tried opiophile and I tried DF, two sources, one an NIH abstract and the other just an anecdotal report
I put this out there because many users have been pressured into the shot, got it unwillingly or just realized they made a horrible irreversible mistake. For me the shot was just a horrible mistake and the depression and malaise that followed was a very dark place indeed. What I discovered was that this breakthrough, quite literally, transformed me into a happy individual for the next two months and although after I discontinued the shot I experienced a series of relapses and recoveries it is my belief that had I not discovered this my recovery would lie no closer than it does at the moment.
Disclaimer: DO NOT TRY THIS WHILE THERE MAY BE ALCOHOL, BENZODIAZEPINE OR BARBITURATES IN THE BODY. Everyone is different, some may get mildly buzzed, others may get very high, but I can assure the reader with confidence that if on the SHOT they will not go into PWDs. This may not be the case for those taking the Naltrexone 50mg pill - a hefty daily dose. Buprenorphine's affinity values hover near those of Naltrexone's but a breakthrough with those plasma levels is doubtful, however in this case, bupe will not push naltrexone off the receptors, it will simply fail to bind to them. I strongly advise anyone trying this to start off with a small test dose orally before attempting to insufflate or IV.
My Experience:
12 Days into my second consecutive vivitrol shot I was up late unable to sleep again and digging through forum post after forum post trying to find methods to breakthrough the shot that didn't include fentanyl and its derivatives. I found one NIH abstract detailing affinities when compared to plasma levels and one report of a user like myself whom ingested buprenorphine (suboxone) while on vivitrol. Their results were fruitful and they were able to breakthrough succesfully. I had no reason to believe anyone would be so cruel as to publish a false report that would cause possibly dozens of readers to go into horrible precipitated withdrawal or overdose. I rarely ingest a substance for recreational purposes through any means but IV. No test dose for me, balls to the wall, just shoot and pray. I loaded a little less than 1mg of an orange suboxone pill into a clean 1cc rig, tied off, pushed the plunger and begged GOD not to let me go into the dreaded PWDs. 20 seconds went by and no PWDs but no rush. I clean up my works and light a cigarette and WHAM (5 minutes after plunger went down) I felt like I did the first day I took a sub, christ the first day I took and opiate, euphoria, energy, lust for life.
If anyone tries to tell you this won't work, ask them..."what reason other than speculation do you have to believe it won't work?" and I can promise you they will say something like: "well you know that suboxone makes you go in WDs if you don't wait long enough after taking a full agonist" or "you have to wait 7 days after taking subs to start vivitrol" or "that is so stupid dude" they won't cite scientific studies or give you anecdotal reports to support it won't work because they don't exist. I just gave you one that does.