Benzos So I'm seeing the shrink later this week and since I'm diagnosed with the big "I"..

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So I'm seeing the shrink later this week and since I'm diagnosed with the big "I"..

as in "Insomnia" and non-24 hour circadian rhythm, I always end up feeling like going to bed later and later if not helped with something, anything. I was diagnosed with the actual psychiatric illness of "Insomnia" and "ADDI" in 1992 no medication was given for the ADDI, being in a high level league in hockey in winter and summer, the H was likely omitted because I stopped running around class screaming I didn't want to do math and throwing my book away and running away home, lived close enough to school most of my life I didn't need the school bus most of my formative years. The sports are really a good, I would say cure for the H in ADHD, but it remaiined until the end of elementary school (after 6th grade it was gone, my mother bought me valerian pills as young as 8 year old because I would wake up at 3 am and play on my NES heh.

Background aside, psych sripts me my 10mg TID Valium during the day, it's been a long time Valiium's put me to sleep unless I take it as directed, which I do since 2 years now, that time I wasn't around here was actually quite a good time for me, except at the beginning, had to put all RC benzos except for some brand name Halcion, that's in my safe, the place I got it from closed.

So, my shrink in the past scripted me 25mg to 50mg seroquel for when the insomnia didn't respond to my 20mg out of 30mg of valium I take daily taken 30 mins or so before bed. They stopped working, so they were changed for Trimipramine 12.5mg pills (the tiniest pills I ever saw in my life, legal or otherwise, my god), which works alright but tolerance develops rapidly, quicker than seroquel, quicker than the Temazepam 30mg I get for Insomnia (psych doesn't know about that, but I stay out of trouble plus I signed some forms that remove me from that provincial health dossier where all health related employees down to pharmacy technicians can see your scripts at other pharmacies..they didn't advertise that form one could print and fill on the ministry's site.

I spoke to him on the phone last friday and he discussed either giving me back some low-dose sleep-purposed 25mg seroquels, I mentioned that Dalmane would be ideal due to its long half-life, since my main issue is falling asleep and staying asleep, I can wake up, up ro 3-4 times to pee..something that does not happen when II take 3x30mg Temazepam. Dalmane is interesting as in it is the only partial agonist of the BZD GABA subcomplex receptors and it's long half-life, isn't an issue, the psych agreed with me that Dalmane 30mg or 3x15mg could help cut on the daily valium because the anti-anxiety effect of Dalmane is very present upon waking. He also suggested Sublinox (canadian ambien, comes only as 10mg ass tasting sublingual tablets and I can attest that they do absolutely nothing that great for me, II rather buy some OTC promethazine 50mg pills than pay the exhorbitant price those Sublinox I once had a script from the ORT clinic, just 15 was a ridiculous price, the only z-drug I like is zaleplon anyway, and there's no company marketing it anymore since a good deal of time, compound pharmacy situation..don't need the aggravation, if only my insurance covered the Sublinox, I could go with it and then just say it doesn't work well, which is true, also strange because american generic zolpidem 1omg tablets gave me some great sleep when I was able to get them.

I've only had Dalmane once, a friend of a friend I didn't know who was older than all of us, just some 50 something lady in the same apartment block everyone knows, had a script forr it and I exchanged some Rivotrils (clonaz) 1mg for a dozen 30mg Dalmanes and it was some of the most restful sleep in my life, that and high dose Librium, speaking of like 3-4 25mg capsules. I know take lots of benzos, but I explained some of my situations here in the past before. If it can make me save on the valium and sleep better and maybe keep the temazepam away, keep renewing it but not taking it.

tl;dr Psych is considering Dalmane, Zolpidem or going back to Seroquel 25mg since I surely lost the tolerance to the sleepiness effects that had him and me settle on trimipramine 12.5mg, which works fine, but it's not something you can take everyday, it stop s working quickly. What's some of my dear fellow BLighters experience with Dalmane (flurazepam), 15mg caps, 30mg caps, whatever, it's been too long and just a dozen given to me back in the mid '00s, when I didn't have more than one benzo script at a time.

Please no sermons about how I have to cut down on the benzos. I know what I'm doing and the fact I'm still fully functional, thanks to doctors who do not let me down or retire without warning (low dose opiates forr chroniic pain degenerating into IV hydromorphone constantly was me being a victim of circumsctances, oonly specialist in his field in town, retires, didn't warn his patients and for years I fought my way to where I am now, beaten the bupe, got my generic oxy 60mg from my monthly appointments to the pain clinic that opened 3 months after I needed ORT help or I was going to go down one hell of a ride to hell.

 

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Please no sermons about how I have to cut down on the benzos.

Don't worry, I'm not going to give you one of these, but I am also suggesting that you might want to try adding melatonin or l-theanine instead of more benzos... you've already got a serious tolerance to histamine antagonists / bzd receptor agonists, so exploring other options/receptors might help slow down the development of tolerance.

I am generally very skeptical of supplements, but the melatonin/theanine combo can be highly effective at potentiating the sleep-inducing effects of benzodiazepines.

 

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Oh indeed, my typical day is 25-30mg valium and some 70% kavlactone cream. Helps sleeping one hell of a refreshing natural feeling sleep, the kind I used to get when I slept well, strangely I sleep better when I have to sleep at someone else's or at a hotel for some reason, and I did separate my office room from my bedroom, did the the bedroom-only-for-sleeping kind of thing and it helped, a little.

I mostly collect rx's I don't use, so when one benzo stops working well, I switch to another, either for the GAD or sleep. For the GAD it's the 6mg bromazepam BID when valium doesn't quiet the fight or flight state my natural state seems to be due to trauma I am actually aware of, nothing physical against me, benzos cured HPPD when I got my second script ever of one, clonazepam 0.5mg twice a day for 8 months cured a surprise blotter (that was DOB, I know it was DOB as local media was speaking of bikers selling fake acid that was extremely dangerous....more like the "you can't take more than one of them tabs dude!" situation, went outside my usual L source and that's what I got, amidst reports of many fake or "pcp" blotter which was ludicrous, those were easy to spot, they were 4 times as large with the big drop of liquid PCP very visible on them.

Then xanax 0.25mg 4 times a day cured my agoraphobia and thus allowed me to succeed my first 4 semesters of college Ac'ing shit, not so much later but the difficulty curve from year 2 to 3 was quite something. Then high dose LSD with some valium and librium in the background to prevent panicking, had 5 hits...and the LSD I had access to back when I did have access to it I have to precise , nobody did 10-strips at once of it. After that trip, the GAD reduced by 40-50%. That's incredible to me, even more than the taking care of the Insomnia side to this.

I'm already staying away from eyeballing really powerful RC benzos and also staying away from GABA-B substances like hm, what's the name, not baclofen, baclofen would be good if I had some muscle sprain though, but the phenibut horror stories...I always stayed away from them. Same thing with alcohol, I rarely have more than 3 drinks since I was put on pain meds, opiates and alcohol isn't even fun to combine, no idea why somebody would do that. I did most of my drinking in my college days and a few years after, then well, the TMJ disorder on top of a trigeminal neuralgia type 2 showing up after actually remembering when it happened, it was a hardcore punk show and people were dancing hard as hell and somebody accidentally knocked my jaw where 4-5 years later the damage I felt it caused as I struggled to stay put even as I was seeing stars from being pummeled by a windmilling guy who went into the crowd leaving the circle pit with full velocity. The burger I got after the show, I still remember the strange noise my jaw made at that first bite and how a small bit of tooth also came out of my mouth.

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