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Phenethylamines San pedro mescaline content????

Bare_head

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I mean reading from erowid i really cant find % of mescaline in san pedros or minimal info really. I have two 4 year 5 year old san pedros about one foot in size each. I really want to try them next year. Is mescaline quite forgiving overdoing it?

How close to 2c-b/ 2c-i , 2ct7 is this chem?

Any help appreciated. Happy pruning "(
 



Dosing with San Pedro

When figuring dosages one must have several figures in hand. First, you must know the wet weight of your sample before and after cleaning/processing. It is also very important to record
the dry weight of the starting material prior to extraction or ingestion. With knowledge of these figures it will be a lot easier to predict present and future dosages, and help prevent bad trips. Remember, don't just consume so many inches of cactus just because you read it somewhere. A 12 inch section of 4 inch diameter Cactus is many times the volume of a 1 inch diameter piece. The total dry weight is the only standard of measurement that should be used.

The threshold dosage for mescaline is generally considered to be around 150 mg. An " average" working dose is around 300 mg. A 400 mg. dose has been described as an " entheogenic all day lollipop ." The maximum safe dosage is believed to be about 1000 mg. (This amount varies widely according to individual tolerance, experience, frame of mind, setting.)

LOW DOSE, 100 - 200 mg A good trip with some visuals.

MODERATE DOSE, 200 - 300 mg Average dosage, strong visuals.

HIGH DOSE, 300 - 500 mg Intense visuals, ego dissociation possible.

EXTREME DOSE, 500 - 800 mg For experienced, competent explorers only.

MAXIMUM SAFE DOSE, 1000 mg Dangerous ground to tread on.

In Psychedelic Shamanism, author Jim DeKorne suggests the following dosages as good starting points for experimentation.

T. pachanoi 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 100.0 grams of dry material. T. peruvianus 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 37.5 grams of dry material. L. williamsii 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 27.0 grams of dry material.

300 to 500 mg of the sulfate salt is equivalent to 225 to 375 mg of the free base.

One source suggests that a good starting dosage for San Pedro is about 1 pound (about 450gm, or 45 gm dry). They also stated that a larger dosage would be much more desirable after mescaline content has been established.

Many people are disappointed with their first excursion because of taking an initially sub-standard dose. It has been calculated that if a person takes a ineffective dose, the next dosage can be increased by a factor of 7 without pushing the range of toxicity. That is, if your first batch ingested was 20 grams and you felt no effect, you should be safely able to try 140 grams next time without ill effect. My personal opinion is that this is a bit on the excessive side. Better to play it safe and work your way up slowly. If you try to fly and fail, you will probably want to give it another shot. However if you take an excessive amount and have a bad trip, it may scare you off of hallucinogens for life. Think about it before you decide how much to try.

Often times determining the approximate dosage of a section is rather difficult, especially if you don't have a set of scales. To help you figure out how much weight you have for a given size section, here are some figures.

1.5 - 2.0 inch diameter section = 1.0 ounces per inch of length

2.0 - 2.5 inch diameter section = 1.5 ounces per inch of length.

2.5 - 3.0 inch diameter section = 2.0 ounces per inch of length

3.0 - 3.5 inch diameter section = 2.5 ounces per inch of length

3.5 - 4.0 inch diameter section = 3.0 ounces per inch of length

4.0 - 4.5 inch diameter section = 3.5 ounces per inch of length

One pound of fresh Tricocereus contains 3 ounces of fibrous core, 6 ounces of white tissue, and 6 ounces of green tissue, along with 1 ounce of exterior skin and spines.

https://erowid.org/plants/cacti/cact..._guide17.shtml

https://erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml
 
Dang Bare-Head, I feel like it's been a long time, how's it going? :)

Pure mescaline is far more forgiving and mild than the 2C-Xs. It's mild, but powerful in an emotional/spiritual way. Mescaline is really unique among psychedelics, I find it hard to explain. It puts me in touch with my physical body and animal self very well. The headspace is serene and empathogenic. At higher doses it becomes visionary (but not so much visual).

However, with cactus, there are various related alkaloids and active alkaloids and even possibly MAOIs, which make the experience more intense than pure mescaline. Also, each individual cactus has its own content. Some are weak, some are strong. Apparently feeding them L-DOPA helps to bolster their alkaloid content... as does starving them of water before harvesting. On Erowid I see an entry stating that the percentage of mescaline by weight of fresh T. pachanoi ranges from 0.006%-0.14%, obviously a huge range.
 
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I think the next time I trip I would like it to be something like San Pedro (mostly because I for some reason tossed all my RC's, and don't feel like getting back into "collecting" again, it's like a fucking illness or something). I keep seeing powdered San Pedro around, need to look into dosing and what not. Maybe a mid range dose hiking somewhere. That would be nice.

I really liked escaline and TMA-6. I really can't even remember the difference between the two, maybe TMA-6 was a bit speedier? Anyone had either of those and actual mescaline containing plants can compare?
 
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