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IF YOU WILL NOT READ THIS WHOLE MESSAGE, AT LEAST READ NUMBER 3 PLEASE

Due to this site's very nature as an agent of harm reduction at its very conception, I am of the opinion that along with Cannabis Discussion, Psychedelic Drug Discussion, and so on, there should be a Research Chemical Discussion. The following are some reasons why I think this change would be beneficial.

1. RCs are quite arguably the most dangerous drugs out there right now. No one knows what consequences these drugs may have, and for example when a brand new drug is released, it may be helpful to at least get the opinions of some of the very chemistry-oriented members of this site before a kid just goes ahead and consumes it.

2. "Other Drugs" could be renamed Opiods, which is basically what it already is, or it could still remain "Other Drugs" so as to include cocaine and meth, etc., but at least users would not have to go digging for posts about RCs.

3. On a specifically RC discussion board, there could be stickies with warnings about the dangers of ordering RCs, HR tactics to consider if one is already committed to trying RCs, as well as recommendations for safety such as milligram scales, allergy testing, titration, new dangerous RCs to avoid, news of deaths associated with new RCs, and possibly even certain ID tests. I'm sure there are yet many extremely useful things I am leaving out.

Obviously we don't want to even get close to anything regarding sourcing and as such the board would have to be heavily moderated and enforced, but I do believe that if nothing else, having certain stickies up like the ones I mentioned could potentially save lives.
 
Skimming linked thread it seems to talk about opioids. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe the JWH, AKB, 5F, and so on research chemicals are opioids, rather Cannabinoids.

I too would like to see a seperate forum for Cannabinoids. It is quite different from cannabis.
 
Don't RC's fall into various categories though? There are the cannabinoids which can be discussed in the thread that is linked above my post, then there are psychedelic RC's which are covered in the PD forum. Then there are opioid RC's which are covered in OD. A single sub forum for all RC's would be more confusing than the current setup so that is why I think that we should keep it the way it is.
 
Indeed their are. However Cannabinoids alone currently have at least 5 unregulated chemicals circulating and I'm sure the other classes have just as many if not more

Combining all talk of the 5 is a bit confusing having to dig about and jump topics in the single thread or have several discussions going on at once. Kinda like everyone talking above each other in a single room.

A setup that seems to work well is having a research chemical forum with a sub-forum for each class. I believe it would help sort out some confusion.

That is of course if a good portion of the comunity is interested in that. Of course 5-10 people isn't really enough to warrant a new forum.

That said the RC topic in canabis seems to be the most posted on there
 
I agree with TB, things are fine the way they are. Imagine "Psychedelic Drugs" with no rc's? It would basically be the mushroom, lsd, and mescaline discussion. Also why shouldn't cannabinoids be in CD? Does marijuana not contain cannabinoids? I will admit that scouring OD for Rc's is a bit difficult as OD is typically Opiate/Benzo discussion but it's in no way a heavy burden. Also if OD becomes "Opiate Discussion" where will all topics containing meth, benzos, coke etc go?

If anything maybe BL can add an RC HR subforum that discusses the dangers, peoples negative experiences, and mislabeled batch warnings and other harm reduction topics but doesn't discuss the actual drugs?
 
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Research chemicals is a particularly unclear and ill-defined term though, I know some here can remember when 2C-x were research chemicals, and in some places they're still classed as such. I suspect you mean the new drugs circulatd & being created rapidly, but even some of those are new batches of drugs that've been around in the scientific literature for a while.
I think it'd be difficult to come up with clear criteria for what's an rc, even if like pornography you'd know them when you see them.

Along with the issue that RCs fall across ever class of drugs as AFOAF Chemist says it's probably better to just leave things as is.
 
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