I was hoping the members who frequent this corner of BL would be able to shed some light on this issue.
In any thread involving Tianeptine (a novel antidepressant formerly thought to exert its primary effect by acting as a serotonin reuptake enhancer, but recently has been discovered to act as a full agonist at Both mu and delta), invariably several people make reference to the phenomenon in Russia where heroin addicts inject crushed Tianeptine pills, with absolutely horrifying consequences.
According to various studies, Wikipedia, and common sense, the terrible complications that often result in limb amputation, are due to the silica and other binders in the pills-makes sense.
What I would like to know is if there is anything inherently more dangerous in IV tianeptine compared to other drugs commonly injected, assuming your tianeptine is in pure powder form, and not the pills.
Anyone who has worked with tianeptine knows it's the most hygroscopic substance imaginable. And while it dissolves readily in water, the resulting solution becomes extremely sticky in a fairly short period of time. Some members here have posted this fact as evidence that injecting tianeptine is incredibly dangerous regardless of whether you are using pure powder.
But I am wondering if there is any reason to suspect tianeptine will become problematic once in the bloodstream. It is water soluble, and I can't see why it would come out of solution or form a sticky viscous nightmare once in the blood (IM would be another story).
So can anyone provide any definitive answers on this question, or simply speculation? Of course i would love to hear if anyone here has experience with using pure tianeptine powder via IV, and what the results were.
So long story short, is injecting pure tianeptine powder that has been micron filtered, rather than the pills the Russians are losing limbs over, inherently more dangerous than injecting other drugs, owing to its peculiar properties and tendency to become almost glue like shortly after being dissolved in water?
Thanks guys. You're swell.
In any thread involving Tianeptine (a novel antidepressant formerly thought to exert its primary effect by acting as a serotonin reuptake enhancer, but recently has been discovered to act as a full agonist at Both mu and delta), invariably several people make reference to the phenomenon in Russia where heroin addicts inject crushed Tianeptine pills, with absolutely horrifying consequences.
According to various studies, Wikipedia, and common sense, the terrible complications that often result in limb amputation, are due to the silica and other binders in the pills-makes sense.
What I would like to know is if there is anything inherently more dangerous in IV tianeptine compared to other drugs commonly injected, assuming your tianeptine is in pure powder form, and not the pills.
Anyone who has worked with tianeptine knows it's the most hygroscopic substance imaginable. And while it dissolves readily in water, the resulting solution becomes extremely sticky in a fairly short period of time. Some members here have posted this fact as evidence that injecting tianeptine is incredibly dangerous regardless of whether you are using pure powder.
But I am wondering if there is any reason to suspect tianeptine will become problematic once in the bloodstream. It is water soluble, and I can't see why it would come out of solution or form a sticky viscous nightmare once in the blood (IM would be another story).
So can anyone provide any definitive answers on this question, or simply speculation? Of course i would love to hear if anyone here has experience with using pure tianeptine powder via IV, and what the results were.
So long story short, is injecting pure tianeptine powder that has been micron filtered, rather than the pills the Russians are losing limbs over, inherently more dangerous than injecting other drugs, owing to its peculiar properties and tendency to become almost glue like shortly after being dissolved in water?
Thanks guys. You're swell.
