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bhamonion

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A question with all the pain doctors running for their lives (licensees) and cutting people off without a thought or care is it better to have your break thru meds prescribed as BID/ QID/ etc... or prescribed as PRN?

I'm in a pain clinic and currently on opana ER 20mg BID (twice a day) with opana 10mg QID (3 times a day) but I really need one more opana 10.

Anyway is it better to have it one way or the other. I was told your more at risk of having it pulled if its PRN.

Help please...

Thanks
 
bhamonion said:
I was told your more at risk of having it pulled if its PRN.
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Wow I hadn't heard that rumor-so not cool. I figured it just made the doctor look less like a pill pusher to say take as needed as opposed to a mandated time schedule. It most likely is being regulated too now. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the DEA is requiring scripts to be written PRN unless that method is a risk to a person's life (like cardiac, BP, insulin meds, etc.).
 
There isnt a more justified use for prn than breakthrough pain. Your ER should be scheduled, you take your IR when needed. If this rumor is true (Im certain it isnt) I will hand over my pharmacy license.

QID is four times daily btw.
 
No, ya'll miss the point I think.
I was asking if there is a difference (or reason) for PRN as opposed to scheduled.

For example, is it better of me to have it PRN rather than scheduled in the DEA's eyes. Right now with my breakthru scheduled if I take too many or not enough its a 'violation'. Yet if it was PRN I could take them all (or none) and still be cool with the doc.

I have a cuz that WAS PRN on his breakthru but just last month it changed to scheduled.
So we were wondering if that was better for the doctor or better for the DEA?
I agree with Kittycat5 that is wrong but I think its just a DEA trickbag to trip up the doc.

(soapbox)
I think the DEA wants us hooked on Heroin because they are a major player in its distribution as a population control.
Remember - Videodrone the movie?
The subliminal message (videodrone) was put in graphic porn so if you watched it you got a brain tumor and died.
The governments take was if your watching this your a deviant and should be dead anyway. Case closed.

Same way with these drugs, the docs get you hooked and the DEA shuts you off so you switch to heroin which kills you. Case closed.

Also if your about to tell me I'm crazy about the government remember that before the taliban had almost stopped poppy production in the fields. Then here comes the good ol' USA to stop the Taliban and now poppy harvesting is at record levels because the fields are guarded by the Army and drones.
And heroin is flooding the streets in the USA because people cant get their pain meds its a easy and cheaper fix, the only downside is that it will kill you!
Also, if your not doing it fast enough we have this 'new and improved H thats mixed with Fental.' Guaranteed to get you high or kill you trying!

Am I off base folks?
 
The only differences are 1)if you don't need a PRN drug you are expected to not not take it whereas a scheduled one you are unless the doctor tells you otherwise and 2)you don't have to clock watch with a PRN drug. Irregardless you are still allotted the same number per day and are not to exceed it so whether it states take 1 pill four times a day as needed or take 1 pill every six hours you still have a set number per day and the same quantity per your 30 day supply. And as with any government agency I'm certain there is some master plan with money as the underlying cause for the changes taking place in the pharmaceutical industry, insurance businesses, and so on.
 
Regarding prescriptions, the DEA cares if the script is for valid medical reasons with documentation to show it. Sure, they caution of all sorts of red flags for spotting fake patients, but PRN isnt among them.
 
That you Catt5 however something is going on, expecially in Alabama. Maybe PA's because I've never had one helpfull, are the root of this. Yet something is going on. Really dont mean to sound like a conspiracy nut but ive been in the system for 20+ years and ive seen it hurt as well as help. I hate that i need meds but i was in a horrific workplace electrocution, 13,5kva for 10.2 seconds with 50% 3rd and 4th degree burns (didnt even know they had 4th degree till my accident).
Anyway, i digress thank you all for listening to my thoughts.
 
I could take a look but pharmacy regulations are like watching paint dry and think it is being fueled by the prescribers themselves rather than changes in law.
 
I know the change could perhaps be brutal but it could give you your life, 3-5 people that I know were prescribed too many oxies, Norco 10/325's, Methadones and Xanax to help with stress caused by the terrible sickly pain. Several others including myself were miserable, lethargic and never wanted to move. Those meds after only a few years suck the life, motivation and soul straight out of you. My "friend" (possibly family) whom I will call Kristopher went from 90 oxy 80s and 120 10/325mg norcos for 7 years then wanted less powerful drugs so they gave her 90 30mg morphines, 60 20mg methadones and 90 norcos. She was a worthless bedridden person not because of just her terrible accidents (4 to be exact) and 3 back surgeries but because of how terrible the meds mad her feel. Myself and others injured included. She wanted to get off of hardcore medicine like myself but we definitely needed something. She went to the 3rd best doctor in the nation and #1 in the state. He switched her from the worst medication that slowly kills to Subutex 8mg three times a day. She has a life now, does things she hasn't done in 15 years, is almost always happy and rates her pain from a 1-2/10 compared to a prior 8-9-10/10. It's amazing to watch it happen. I myself have been a 5 year addict starting with hundreds of every painkiller around then used IV Heroin for 3 of those 5 years. I had 10.5 month run before I ran back to the devil dope but now have 9 months and zero cravings, none at all after taking 1 8mg subtex daily. Some days I need less and can skip a day or 2! I know you are looking for Opanas but 4 people with a combined total of 30+ years on opiate/opioid medication got off all the hard, slow you down, turn you into a zombie drugs and can now feel great and get the same, if not better pain relief by switching over to buprenorphine (active ingredient is subutex & suboxone)! Research, Read, Discover! It may save you pal! Much luck!
 
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