Oakstone
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This came up briefly in the main Kratom thread a while ago, but I figured I'd make a post about it to tell what my experiences with it have been.
I started using Kratom around three months ago, and have since found that it's my favorite of all substances I've tried. A month and a half ago, I first started trying poppies (ground to a powder, mixed with water/tums, chugged), with some mixed success. I find them a bit more... mixed-feeling than kratom, and slightly "feverish", in a way. I'll still keep trying them to refine my dosage and techniques and stuff, to see how I like them in general.
Anyway. A while ago, before kratom and poppies, I was pretty into alcohol. Not an alcoholic, really, but probably a bit more than was good for me. After I started with kratom, I noticed a marked dislike of the taste of wine, and alcohol in general to an extent (although I brew my own beer and enjoy the taste of that).
During a few times that I tried to get drunk, I found it wasn't near as enjoyable as it once had, and made me just feel kind of tired and sick.
Once I started using poppies as well (it's worth noting that I use them very infrequently, as I don't want to become habituated or anything), I found that almost all enjoyment from alcohol was gone. I tried a few times, but to no success.
So I began the "final test" with alcohol. Took a bit of phenibut to hopefully increase effects, then, over probably 2-3 hours had around 16 drinks. (Mostly a high-alcohol Chinese rice wine I make, with one beer on the side.)
As before, virtually no enjoyment from it, just an extreme tiredness and heaviness. I fell asleep, and apparently knocked over my ~5 foot tall lamp sometime during the night without awakening myself (as an example of how out I was).
The next morning, I was still "drunk"; disorganized, stumbling, etc. Since this was a work day, that wasn't fun for me. Around noon it switched to being a hangover, which was quite horrible indeed.
So, basically, I won't be trying alcohol again for some time, which isn't a huge deal since I prefer kratom at this point anyway.
Have others noticed similar things like this happening with kratom/opiate use? Is there anything science has shown about why it happens?
I started using Kratom around three months ago, and have since found that it's my favorite of all substances I've tried. A month and a half ago, I first started trying poppies (ground to a powder, mixed with water/tums, chugged), with some mixed success. I find them a bit more... mixed-feeling than kratom, and slightly "feverish", in a way. I'll still keep trying them to refine my dosage and techniques and stuff, to see how I like them in general.
Anyway. A while ago, before kratom and poppies, I was pretty into alcohol. Not an alcoholic, really, but probably a bit more than was good for me. After I started with kratom, I noticed a marked dislike of the taste of wine, and alcohol in general to an extent (although I brew my own beer and enjoy the taste of that).
During a few times that I tried to get drunk, I found it wasn't near as enjoyable as it once had, and made me just feel kind of tired and sick.
Once I started using poppies as well (it's worth noting that I use them very infrequently, as I don't want to become habituated or anything), I found that almost all enjoyment from alcohol was gone. I tried a few times, but to no success.
So I began the "final test" with alcohol. Took a bit of phenibut to hopefully increase effects, then, over probably 2-3 hours had around 16 drinks. (Mostly a high-alcohol Chinese rice wine I make, with one beer on the side.)
As before, virtually no enjoyment from it, just an extreme tiredness and heaviness. I fell asleep, and apparently knocked over my ~5 foot tall lamp sometime during the night without awakening myself (as an example of how out I was).
The next morning, I was still "drunk"; disorganized, stumbling, etc. Since this was a work day, that wasn't fun for me. Around noon it switched to being a hangover, which was quite horrible indeed.
So, basically, I won't be trying alcohol again for some time, which isn't a huge deal since I prefer kratom at this point anyway.
Have others noticed similar things like this happening with kratom/opiate use? Is there anything science has shown about why it happens?