Wards Alchemist
Greenlighter
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I hear quite a bit of conflicted reports and methods in obtaining a form of opium known as putty from dried poppy pods. it is in fact opium but in less of a concentration to additional plant matter in the final product. I will explain a few things. Firstly, when making pod putty. morphine in its raw state is NOT water soluble and is in fact an oil or in base form. This only matters when making teas or tinctures and not pod putty because you are not isolating the morphine from the opium sap and therefore will be carried in that medium. alcohol is best for making it quickly however on could use water and refine it some with alcohol however that is not here nor there at the moment.
The best way to make pod putty is to in fact crush up the pods including the seeds because they too have a small amount of morphine on the outsides of them. heat the alcohol to a simmer and never go over that. do so for about 2 hours completely separating the pods with the dried sap. then filter using a cheesecloth. you can repeat the cheesecloth step if you want it of best quality. then simmer down slowly until you are left with a brown or black paste. It is not ready and don't think you are done. in fact it most likely will not be ready for another 2 days as it dries only with the room temperature and NO MORE HEAT. while it is in its paste form you do not want to add any heat because of the morphine concentration until smoked because it will destroy many alkaloids including morphine thebaine and codeine. the best way to smoke it is actually in a meth pipe because what you want is to not let the heat directly touch the opium gum. it will not melt completely unless you want to take it to the next step and refine the morphine out completely. one would do that using either sodium hydroxide or lime. also at the beginning its better when water is used to extract the morphine base. For doing this step add 1 part lime (in this case we are using lime) to every 3 parts water along with what you may call "liquid opium". keep it always at a simmer while doing this. an oil will appear at the top. after this has collected as much base at the top as possible put the pot in the refridgerator to let the morphine/codeine/thebaine turn into rock form. usually this is 30 percent morphine, 3 percent codeine and the rest other alkaloids being the most thebaine, just collect it using a cheesecloth or coffee filter and make sure that the liquid opium is completely dissolved at the point of extraction because you don't want to bring the gum along with it. one could either keep it in this fashion for smoking like methamphetamine in a ball pipe or to refine it further. many ppl claim that hydrochloric acid is best to make a HCl salt however if you don't want to go buy muriatic acid at the hardware store one could also use vinegar. simmer it in vinegar until dissolved and simmer off the remaining liquid giving you a brown powder of morphine/codeine and other opium alkaloids in an acetate salt which can now be injected or smoked like heroin. the other thing you could do is get pure acetic acid and make 6MAM out of the morphine, something similar and somewhat stronger than heroin. there ya go kids. just thinking of things ive heard here that are somewhat incorrect or outright wrong.
by the way. Im a chemist and this is easy as pie regardless if you have any experience or not. anyone can do it. experience will make you better at it but anyone can just start and get something back
The best way to make pod putty is to in fact crush up the pods including the seeds because they too have a small amount of morphine on the outsides of them. heat the alcohol to a simmer and never go over that. do so for about 2 hours completely separating the pods with the dried sap. then filter using a cheesecloth. you can repeat the cheesecloth step if you want it of best quality. then simmer down slowly until you are left with a brown or black paste. It is not ready and don't think you are done. in fact it most likely will not be ready for another 2 days as it dries only with the room temperature and NO MORE HEAT. while it is in its paste form you do not want to add any heat because of the morphine concentration until smoked because it will destroy many alkaloids including morphine thebaine and codeine. the best way to smoke it is actually in a meth pipe because what you want is to not let the heat directly touch the opium gum. it will not melt completely unless you want to take it to the next step and refine the morphine out completely. one would do that using either sodium hydroxide or lime. also at the beginning its better when water is used to extract the morphine base. For doing this step add 1 part lime (in this case we are using lime) to every 3 parts water along with what you may call "liquid opium". keep it always at a simmer while doing this. an oil will appear at the top. after this has collected as much base at the top as possible put the pot in the refridgerator to let the morphine/codeine/thebaine turn into rock form. usually this is 30 percent morphine, 3 percent codeine and the rest other alkaloids being the most thebaine, just collect it using a cheesecloth or coffee filter and make sure that the liquid opium is completely dissolved at the point of extraction because you don't want to bring the gum along with it. one could either keep it in this fashion for smoking like methamphetamine in a ball pipe or to refine it further. many ppl claim that hydrochloric acid is best to make a HCl salt however if you don't want to go buy muriatic acid at the hardware store one could also use vinegar. simmer it in vinegar until dissolved and simmer off the remaining liquid giving you a brown powder of morphine/codeine and other opium alkaloids in an acetate salt which can now be injected or smoked like heroin. the other thing you could do is get pure acetic acid and make 6MAM out of the morphine, something similar and somewhat stronger than heroin. there ya go kids. just thinking of things ive heard here that are somewhat incorrect or outright wrong.
by the way. Im a chemist and this is easy as pie regardless if you have any experience or not. anyone can do it. experience will make you better at it but anyone can just start and get something back
