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Pill testing won’t save people. Common sense will

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Pill testing won’t save people. Common sense will

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By - Louise Roberts https://twitter.com/whatlouthinks

Do you want your kids to take illegal drugs? No.

Is there a safe way to swallow, smoke and inject these substances? Hello, that’s also a no.

Maintaining that message is a Parenting 101, you would think. One of those obvious things such as don’t give your kids matches, knives or loaded guns to play with.

But that inconvenient truth is trampled in our stampede to reach the apparent nirvana of inclusion and harm minimisation.

As sure as night follows day, news of a drug-related death at a weekend music festival has reignited calls for pill testing because pill testing “saves lives”.

Plus we have to swallow the lecture: young people will take drugs so let’s move on from the hard stuff such as education and penalties.

In this most recent case, 26-year-old Jake Monahan had a fatal heart attack after taking an unknown substance during an event at Mt Lindesay on the NSW-Queensland border. Two others also overdosed on party drugs and were flown to the Gold Coast University Hospital in critical conditions.

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One reveller was witnessed screeching and clawing at the ground as the illegal synthetics took hold. It was one horror scene after another because people voluntarily opened their mouths and shoved the chemicals right in there.

Police are still trying to establish precisely what they took. So the theory rears again: if this dead risk taker had his substance tested and it told him it was a “bad dose”, he would not have taken it.

He would still be alive today. Really? Where’s the proof of that then? It’s a fairy floss safety net.

And who believes that an individual intent on getting high at a festival would have taken the time to test his drug before he indulged?

Surely the best message is: illegal drugs kill. But it’s part of our confounding era where parents don’t want to say no to their children for fear of alienating them or fracturing their psyches.

Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation’s Dr Alex Wodak told journalists that we as a society “should have the courage to test things” because pill testing is a harm-reduction measure in the same vein as a seatbelt.

“This is yet another battle between abstinence and pragmatism,” Dr Wodak said.

While I admire Dr Wodak for his efforts in drug and alcohol research, I cannot see how any responsible parent is happy to swallow the fashionable, elitist mantra that kids are going to take drugs no matter what, so let’s just make it safe for them.

It is the needle stuck on the record with the next chorus singing: “Hey you, the war on drugs is futile don’t you know?”

Well, doctor, I don’t want to teach my children how to take “safe” illegal drugs because, no matter the purity, they are never safe to take. Why is that so hard to accept?

There are no stats on the number of promising young men and women who have been snatched from the jaws of death because they rejected a dodgy ecstasy tablet.

But the real stats cannot be ignored. Illegal drugs costs the Australian economy an estimated $8.2 billion bill every year through crime, productivity losses and healthcare costs, not to mention family destruction.

According to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, drug use moved from being the 10th top ranking risk factor for disease and injury in Australia to the ninth.

And we have a roll call of victims: Georgina Bartter, 19, Sylvia Choi, 25, Tolga Toksoz, 19, James Munro, 23, Nigel Paulijevic, 26, Stefan Woodward, 19, and of course 15-year-old Anna Wood who died in 1995, three days after taking an “eccy” at a dance party.

That is what killed her — the MDMA — so a purity test would have been futile.

Her father Tony Wood says: “They keep on about harm reduction. They say just take the stuff safely. But there is no safe way. You just don’t know what will happen when you take drugs.”

The NSW government has dismissed calls for pill testing with deputy premier Troy Grant saying: “What you’re proposing there is a government regime that is asking for taxpayer’s money to support a drug dealer’s business enterprise.”

And there’s no doubt test kits are a minefield. Can you see a young person going to their dealer and saying: “Hold on a sec, do you have a sample I can test?”

And the dealer saying: “Sure, take your time” before giving them a sample they know is “OK”.

The teen, satisfied, buys the drug — which could still kill him. That is the nature of drug taking.

By delegating to a test kit, we are dodging the hard stuff, the effort required to keep dialogue open with kids and use real-time opportunities to drive home an anti-drugs message.

Show them Whitney Houston. Show them George Michael. Two talents cut down thanks to drug abuse.

What happens if a kit says a substance is OK but it isn’t and a person overdoses or dies?

Does the kit manufacturer take responsibility? You can bet grieving parents will be out to blame anyone they can rather than accepting that it was their child who put a pill in their mouth.

And that’s what this all boils down to. Taking responsibility for yourself.

There are far more valuable things we should put time and effort into rather than helping people “safely” break the law.

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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/rende...l/news-story/f090e692508e4d3a671503ade59830a6

^ With many comments after the article.
 
That is what killed her — the MDMA — so a purity test would have been futile.

Her father Tony Wood says: “They keep on about harm reduction. They say just take the stuff safely. But there is no safe way. You just don’t know what will happen when you take drugs.”

So what? Alcohol killed Amy Winehouse and huge amounts of other people. Why is that any different? If alcohol production and sale was left in the hands of crime gangs (like MDMA is) then we would probably see even more deaths from it as well.
 
New approach needed to tackle harm illicit drugs cause in Australia

It was hard to miss the flurry of activity when road toll figures came out this week showing that 292 Victorians died on the state's roads in 2016. But another figure seems to slip beneath the radar every year. It's the number of people who die of drug overdoses.

About 1400 people in Australia die of an overdose every year – four a day. In 2015, 420 Victorians died of an overdose. There were 252 road deaths in the same year.

The state government spends more than double the amount on road safety that it does on services to prevent overdoses. It put $192 million towards drug and alcohol treatment services and harm reduction initiatives in its 2016-17 budget, of which $19 million went towards overdose prevention. Meanwhile, it spent more than $558 million on road safety.

The investment in lowering our road toll over the past four decades has made a dramatic difference. Although the numbers have climbed in the past year, our roads are generally safer than they have ever been. It's time we seriously tackled the drug toll, too.

Illicit drugs remain a major social problem. In Australia, more than 3 million people have taken an illicit drug in the past 12months. In Victoria alone, there are between 20,000 and 35,000 who regularly inject illicit drugs. A UN report published in 2014 found Australians had the world's highest rate of ecstasy use.

It is little wonder, then, that The Age has for years argued that the "war on drugs" has failed. Former Victorian police chief Ken Lay summed up the situation when he said: "We can't arrest our way out of our problems."

Policies that criminalise and demonise those dependent on drugs need to make way for measures that minimise harm. Such strategies should be based on decriminalisation, regulation and education.

It is important to remember that needle exchange programs were highly controversial when introduced. Critics said they would "send the wrong message" to youth. Jeff Kennett's government opposed injecting rooms, but he has since conceded he was wrong.

These spaces have been shown to be highly effective. In 2009, a government review found that in the preceding nine years such programs prevented more than 32,000 HIV infections and more than 96,000 hepatitis C infections. For every dollar spent, the government saved $4 in avoidable health and disability costs.

The Age's position has been consistent over many years. We have never sought to condone or encourage misuse of addictive substances. The abuse of illicit and addictive drugs is dangerous. But we need programs such as needle exchanges as part of a sensible, proven strategy to minimise the harm caused and ultimately reduce drug use.

We also believe our state government must have the courage to embrace new measures to tackle the problem. That is why we urge it to open debate on policies and ideas put forward by Harm Minimisation Australia this week.

These include the decriminalisation of personal use and possession of small quantities of drugs. Other countries that have tried this have reported reduced drug use, reduced overdose fatalities and reduced incarceration rates.

Pill testing stations should be trialled at music festivals and venues. Tens of thousands of young Victorians will attend festivals over the summer. Many will consume illicit drugs. Having the capability to examine drugs on site and take dangerous pills and substances out of circulation could save lives.

It would also allow for alerts to be issued for "bad batches", and help avoid the mass overdoses that have occurred in Australia in recent years.

These two small measures, combined with greater drug education, would help reduce drug harm in our community.

These ideas will be confronting for many. But if they help reduce deaths, crime and the overall cost to society, surely it is time to try a fresh approach. Far too many families are suffering as a result of widespread drug use in our community.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/th...drugs-cause-in-australia-20170104-gtlrpk.html
 
Seat belts won't save people. Common sense will.

Do I want my kids to take illegal drugs - No = Regulate them ! Have some control.

Is there a safe way to take drugs - YES. Have you heard about 'Pill testing' ? Rinse and repeat
 
I can't believe people still defend just say no.
 
This article makes me want to relapse on hard drugs. Untested, unmeasured hard drugs.
 
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I see that your intentions are good, but might want to leave the heavy lifting to those more suited.

Pill testing won’t save people. Common sense will

pill testing is "common" sense, but we that have it, know its anything but common.
Do you want your kids to take illegal drugs? No.

No id rather them take legal regulated drugs and in second place would come ilegal tested drugs

Is there a safe way to swallow, smoke and inject these substances? Hello, that’s also a no.

I love the "hello" When i read this it almost always indicates a simpleton has done the writing. How many legal substances are taken through these means.

Maintaining that message is a Parenting 101, you would think. One of those obvious things such as don’t give your kids matches, knives or loaded guns to play with.

another take is that banning things does not work well at all and teaching your children how to properly interact with things works much better.
But that inconvenient truth is trampled in our stampede to reach the apparent nirvana of inclusion and harm minimisation.

did your kid edit this in.. nice writing, but totally flawed

As sure as night follows day, news of a drug-related death at a weekend music festival has reignited calls for pill testing because pill testing “saves lives”.

lol.. ban them that will work


Plus we have to swallow the lecture: young people will take drugs so let’s move on from the hard stuff such as education and penalties.

Dim wit please just swallow.. its for all our good
In this most recent case, 26-year-old Jake Monahan had a fatal heart attack after taking an unknown substance during an event at Mt Lindesay on the NSW-Queensland border. Two others also overdosed on party drugs and were flown to the Gold Coast University Hospital in critical conditions.

since we don't know what they took or how much.. are you sure it was even illegal? Why would they have taken this if other legal drugs were available?

He would still be alive today. Really? Where’s the proof of that then? It’s a fairy floss safety net.

biggest fairy floss safety net would be the idea that banning substances saves anyone.. duhh
And who believes that an individual intent on getting high at a festival would have taken the time to test his drug before he indulged?

You're the one pushing for common sense?

Surely the best message is: illegal drugs kill.

probably should legalize them then?

“Hey you, the war on drugs is futile don’t you know?”

Well said
 
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I see that your intentions are good, but might want to leave the heavy lifting to those more suited.



pill testing is "common" sense, but we that have it, know its anything but common.


No id rather them take legal regulated drugs and in second place would come ilegal tested drugs



I love the "hello" When i read this it almost always indicates a simpleton has done the writing. How many legal substances are taken through these means.



another take is that banning things does not work well at all and teaching your children how to properly interact with things works much better.


did your kid edit this in.. nice writing, but totally flawed



lol.. ban them that will work




Dim wit please just swallow.. its for all our good


since we don't know what they took or how much.. are you sure it was even illegal? Why would they have taken this if other legal drugs were available?



biggest fairy floss safety net would be the idea that banning substances saves anyone.. duhh


You're the one pushing for common sense?



probably should legalize them then?

“Hey you, the war on drugs is futile don’t you know?”

Well said

Nicely put. You can always tell the one person who has zero experience with drugs or the people who use them
 
Of course pill testing will save people...a pill contains a dangerous adulterant, it gets tested, that fact arises, a person who would have taken it now is an informed consumer and doesn't take it. Doesn't that sound like a plausible series of events which would result in, well, someone being saved?

Also, I don't agree with the proposition that there is "no safe way" to consume drugs. Is there a way to know of any & all negative events which may arise from consuming a drug? No. Are there ways to greatly reduce the potential risks of consuming a drug and make it relatively safe? Yes.

To me that seems like "common sense".
 
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