Optimal dose/ratio for first MDA + MDMA combo

[heerutosen]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering what the optimal dose of both substances would be and if i should combine them at once or dose one first and redose with the other?

When i take mdma solo it is usually a 200mg or 225mg dose (no redose)

I have only taken MDA once at 165mg and had a great time. Took a lot longer to come up and lasted longer too.
It was in no way too much and i was even expecting a bit more, so if i ever do it solo again i'll probably take 180mg or 200mg.

So taking my MDMA tolerance into account. What do you guys suggest?
I'll be rolling with close friends at home after Christmas

I was thinking half a pill (80-100mg mdma) with 120mg MDA taken at once OR a little more than half a pill (120- 150mg depending on spread) with 80mg MDA

Thanks in advance!

 

[turnupboss]

I have only for a fact knowingly had tested mda once. When i did i combined 75mg of mda with 75mg mdma. With that 50/50 total of 150mg was perfect for me and i normally dose mdma 150-200mg with redose depending on situation.

Ive read lots of people stating various ratios for best mdma/mda synergy. I can only comment on 50/50 ratio of 150mg mda/mdma because its the only time that i knowingly for a tested fact had mda along side with my usual tested mdma.

 

[heerutosen]

I have only for a fact knowingly had tested mda once. When i did i combined 75mg of mda with 75mg mdma. With that 50/50 total of 150mg was perfect for me and i normally dose mdma 150-200mg with redose depending on situation.

Ive read lots of people stating various ratios for best mdma/mda synergy. I can only comment on 50/50 ratio of 150mg mda/mdma because its the only time that i knowingly for a tested fact had mda along side with my usual tested mdma.

How did it compare to either one solo? If i decide on 50/50 i'll probably do 100mg of both
Was the 50/50 mix of 150mg a lot more intense than 200mg solo?

 

[turnupboss]

Combining mda with mdma must be dosed lower than usual mdma dose. Mda is more potent and intense. You said your usual dose is around 200mg mdma. My usual dose is 150-200mg mdma with redose depending on situation. When i dosed 50/50 mda+mdma at 150mg it was intense. Some people said they like doing like 100mg mdma + 50mg mda just for the mda to boost up the mdma. If mda is at higher ratio than mdma then mda should be felt the most and vice versa if mdma is higher ratio than mda.

They both compliment eachother mystically. I chose 50/50 for a balanced compliment of both sides of the table.

Mda is a higher energy hardcore version of mdma and is usually more trippy. The mda is like a turbo booster for mdma. Mda also last longer.

To me the combo is greater than either drug by itself. The synergy between the two is awesome.

Mdma is more towards empathy as mda gears more towards euphoria although both drugs have same qualities they just have different ratios of these qualities.

If you want more of a certain quality effect then gear your dosage ratio that way.

These are just my opinions and experience results.

 

[turnupboss]

100mg mda + 100mg mdma will indeed kick your ass. Better stay around 150mg because mda is like mdma on steroids. I usually dose mdma high myself so dont take my words lightly.
200mg mda/mdma will probably feel like a raging 250-300mg plain mdma to say.

 

[turnupboss]

Im suprised a bunch of people havent jumped on this topic yet condering ive seen heavy discussion of this combo on bluelight in the past. I know there is plenty of vets out there with more experience results to share.

 

[95zr1]

How do you guys stumble upon pure mda? Pure mdma is no problem for me but its the mda I'm finding difficult?

 

[turnupboss]

How do you guys stumble upon pure mda? Pure mdma is no problem for me but its the mda I'm finding difficult?

Tight circles of people who are serious in rolling culture, but i only had mda for a fact once years ago. Ive had lots of beanz in the past that seemed to contain mda or mda plus mdma but i have no proof, i never tested my beanz back then. Based on my readings it was more common years ago for beanz to contain mda/mdma. I only started testing in 2010 when real beanz started becoming less frequent and especially now that "molly" has become so common really started testing everything.

Back when i first started rolling beanz would either be legit quality or simply bunk(just a dud, nonactive) but now we got all kinds of crazy mystery chems floating around as imposter mdxx. Instead of getting a winner pill or a pop n no roll pill. Now you might pop n get a crazy misdosed unknown chem.

 

[95zr1]

Yea with all the RC that are out you could be taking anything. But atleast I do have a never ending river of pure mdma

 

[dimensiontripping]

I had tested mda and mdma. When I took 120mg MDMA with 60mg MDA, I was FLOORED. I was at a club and I was hallucinating crazy stuff on the stage, intense empathogenic psychedelic effects. I was soaked in sweat, chewed a hole in my right cheek. Totally geeked and way too much and had to be escorted out of the club with my friends because I could not find the exit, let alone the bathroom. I actually passed out 4 hours after dosing at my apt because it wore me out so hard which is very unusual. I was in an intense afterglow the entire next day and not the night I love life kind.

Be careful with the MDA. that stuff will put you on your ass. And I have taken MDMA/MDA/MDE/BK-MDMA etc.. many times over the years.

I would start max 100mg MDMA with 50 MDA. That will have you rolling hard. If I do that combo again, I would do 90mg MDMA and 40mg MDA.

This combo can go from fun to overwhelming fast. Be careful my friends.

 

[dimensiontripping]

How do you guys stumble upon pure mda? Pure mdma is no problem for me but its the mda I'm finding difficult?

Its actually very accessible in the right places. Think about different ways you can pick up and you might find it faster than you think.

 

[heerutosen]

Thanks guys! Seeing as how the combo is more intense than either drug solo i'll adjust my dose down to 85mg/85mg mix.
I'm looking to be a bit floored (i'll be at home so no worries there)

200mg mdma solo won't floor me, so taking the potentiation into account 85/85 should be like 225mg solo?
Can't wait till Xmas!

 

[dimensiontripping]

Thanks guys! Seeing as how the combo is more intense than either drug solo i'll adjust my dose down to 85mg/85mg mix.
I'm looking to be a bit floored (i'll be at home so no worries there)

200mg mdma solo won't floor me, so taking the potentiation into account 85/85 should be like 225mg solo?
Can't wait till Xmas!

120mg MDMA/60 MDA at once in one cap felt like 250-300mg of MDMA but also with significant visual distortion. If you have some tolerance, you might be ok but if you have not taken MDA you will be surprised how psychedelic it can get. I know the desire to go hard but you might want to scale that does back 10-20% on each side. You can always take more but you cant take less. Make sure you have someone with you who is at least less altered to help you if you need it. my 120/60 combo was the hardest I ever rolled in 6 years (25-30 times easy over the years). MDA is one hell of a drug.

 

[heerutosen]

120mg MDMA/60 MDA at once in one cap felt like 250-300mg of MDMA but also with significant visual distortion. If you have some tolerance, you might be ok but if you have not taken MDA you will be surprised how psychedelic it can get. I know the desire to go hard but you might want to scale that does back 10-20% on each side. You can always take more but you cant take less. Make sure you have someone with you who is at least less altered to help you if you need it. my 120/60 combo was the hardest I ever rolled in 6 years (25-30 times easy over the years). MDA is one hell of a drug.

I have taken MDA on it's own once at 165mg and was completely fine. Im also experienced with psychedelics at higher dosages.
Is your usual mdma dose also 200mg or more? I can't imagine a 180mg combo to be too much for me, but if you say it's like 300mg i might scale back a bit (don't want to dose too low either cause redosing doesn't do much for me)