Hello,
Since I couldn't find one, I'd like to start a tread on health questions related to GHB manufacture.
The basic process is dead easy : perform an equimolar reaction between NaOH and GBL and you get NaGHB.
Unfortunately, if the man in the street is to perform this reaction, he must pass through a series of intermediate steps, each with its health considerations.
I laid out this post as a summary of the subject, leaving in blue what I don't know and wish to know.
GBL
- GBL dissolves plastics, store it in a glass or HDPE plastic container.
- In Europe, GBL is still legal to possess in many countries and to sell without restriction in Poland.
- There are supposedly 2 kinds of GBL : the german (produced following stricter rules) and the chinese (much more impure). BASF if well-known for producing high-standard GBL.
- There are many scams and a legal-looking document such as the safety data sheet or the certificate of analysis could be a fake.
- What are byproducts that one can expect to find in low-quality GBL ?
- How can GBL purity/safety be assessed ?
- Is there a safe enough procedure to purify GBL ? (like acetone wash for cocaine)
NaOH
- Is a strong base that can cause chemical burns, wear appropriate protections when you handle it.
- Can be found in hardware stores, but it this case it is primordial to know what exactly it contains
The reaction itself
- Dissolving NaOH in water produces heat. The reaction between NaOH and GBL also produces heat. So you need to do it slowly and watch out for the solution's temperature. You don't want the glass to break or the solution to start boiling (possibly even "explode" if heat is not evenly distributed and it starts boiling in a point)
- NaOH reacts with aluminum. So use a pyrex or stainless steel recipient and ideally a glass rod to stir.
GHB
- Obviously, and just as GBL, it's not a toy and needs to be handled with prudence. Use (blue) food coloring and store in a locked shelf/drawer.
- Properly manufactured GHB should precipitate as a white solid when water evaporates from the solution (but this step is only for purists and people who like to make a sticky mess).
- From what I know, it is stable and can be stored in a plastic bottle for just as long as you want. (but as always, the less heat and light the better)
- How to test purity / refine it ?
That's all I know.
Now, I'd be glad to get some well-informed contributions in order to complete this document which I hope could be completed and get some visibility among the harm-reduction literature.
Since I couldn't find one, I'd like to start a tread on health questions related to GHB manufacture.
The basic process is dead easy : perform an equimolar reaction between NaOH and GBL and you get NaGHB.
Unfortunately, if the man in the street is to perform this reaction, he must pass through a series of intermediate steps, each with its health considerations.
I laid out this post as a summary of the subject, leaving in blue what I don't know and wish to know.
GBL
- GBL dissolves plastics, store it in a glass or HDPE plastic container.
- In Europe, GBL is still legal to possess in many countries and to sell without restriction in Poland.
- There are supposedly 2 kinds of GBL : the german (produced following stricter rules) and the chinese (much more impure). BASF if well-known for producing high-standard GBL.
- There are many scams and a legal-looking document such as the safety data sheet or the certificate of analysis could be a fake.
- What are byproducts that one can expect to find in low-quality GBL ?
- How can GBL purity/safety be assessed ?
- Is there a safe enough procedure to purify GBL ? (like acetone wash for cocaine)
NaOH
- Is a strong base that can cause chemical burns, wear appropriate protections when you handle it.
- Can be found in hardware stores, but it this case it is primordial to know what exactly it contains
- Drain cleaner coming in the form of white pellets can contain NaOH and/or KOH. It can be found in a packaging that state "sodium hydroxyde" on the front side but doesn't display a list of ingredients. I have no idea how much confidence can be put in such a product.
- Hopefully, it can be found pure without the need for a chemist license.
The reaction itself
- Dissolving NaOH in water produces heat. The reaction between NaOH and GBL also produces heat. So you need to do it slowly and watch out for the solution's temperature. You don't want the glass to break or the solution to start boiling (possibly even "explode" if heat is not evenly distributed and it starts boiling in a point)
- NaOH reacts with aluminum. So use a pyrex or stainless steel recipient and ideally a glass rod to stir.
GHB
- Obviously, and just as GBL, it's not a toy and needs to be handled with prudence. Use (blue) food coloring and store in a locked shelf/drawer.
- Properly manufactured GHB should precipitate as a white solid when water evaporates from the solution (but this step is only for purists and people who like to make a sticky mess).
- From what I know, it is stable and can be stored in a plastic bottle for just as long as you want. (but as always, the less heat and light the better)
- How to test purity / refine it ?
That's all I know.
Now, I'd be glad to get some well-informed contributions in order to complete this document which I hope could be completed and get some visibility among the harm-reduction literature.
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