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(Methoxetamine) - A review after 18 months.

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I am considering submitting this to erowid because I think retrospective reports are not common enough as well as being very valuable. I would love to hear any feedback about things which could be add/removed/edited before I do so.


I first tried MXE about 6 months after its release. I was just becoming interested in novel psychoactives and was happy that it seemed both safe and fun enough to be worth my time. I had had one experience with DXM and several with MDMA, mushrooms, cannabis and GHB so I felt I was ready.

In January 2011 I first tried 25mg with a friend whilst watching cartoons and enjoyed the pleasant floatiness while being surprised at quite how confusing it was able to make everything. Even simple TV plotlines were hard to follow. I enjoyed it nonetheless and ordered a few grams to be getting on with.

Since I started monitoring my drug use in march 2011 I have used MXE on more than 50 occasions. I have never had a problem with it, using about 3 times a month on average, with a range between 0 and 8 uses per month. I consider myself a high-frequency but controlled drug user. For comparison I have used GHB (which I drink instead of alcohol) an average of 5 times per month over the same period.


My favourite ROA is probably sublingual, since I often transport it in solution. I also quite enjoy snorting it. I have much less experience with oral dosing, but I find it a bit slow and don;t really bother with it as a result.

Enough background. I found that MXE was a great social drug in low doses (20-35mg). It gave no hangover, lowered inhibitions enough that I could dance and not care if it was bad, and allowed me to feel inebriated enough that I didn't feel like I was missing out on not drinking. The lower end of the dosing scale didn't impart too much confusion either, so I was still highly functional when necessary and in control of my actions, as I like to be. There were, and continue to be few health concerns which further satisfied me that my choice of intoxicant was a good one. The majority of my uses were in student bars or house party settings and all were very enjoyable.

At higher doses (40mg+) I found MXE was very confusing, numbed the body and yet was still quite suitable for a rave or party setting where socialisation would not be required. I don't attend such events often, so this was relatively unexplored. With care, it was easy to avoid such a state where it was not desired. I found a solution in a perfume dispenser was ideal for top-up doses if I wanted them.

I occasionally investigated high doses on my own, but did not find them particularly to my liking. I prefer to be functional as I never have much spare time, so the “M-hole” was not great for me. I only investigated it once. Any time I took doses above 60mg I found that I would awaken the next morning feeling “fuzzy”. I found the same thing to be true for DXM. It is not necessarily an unpleasant feeling, but I certainly feel impaired and would not be comfortable driving a car while experiencing it. It is a very hard sensation to describe, but I feel mentally dulled and my vision feels odd. It seems to fade within a few hours of waking up.

Some of the features of MXE that I thought deserved commentary:

I actually found that MXE made me very contemplative of life and society, giving me the sort of thoughts that might be much more commonly associated with psychedelics like LSD. If I was ever walking home on it then I'd often pick up litter and muse on how wonderful it would be if everyone worked together more closely. I believe it partially contributed to a growth in my conscience, but have no evidence for this. I struggle to do things which are at all morally wrong, following a sort of WWJD philosophy despite having been to church only a few times in my life.

I find that MXE very often encourages me to feel much less intoxicated than I actually am. This has lead to excessive dosing on more than one occasion and I am now careful to write on my hand exactly what I've had and set limits on my consumption in advance of the evening. Dosing without scales magnifies this risk, and having dosed disastrously after snorting bumps from a “small” carpet spillage one evening, I would never guess my dose again.

Although I have never found my use problematic, I can very clearly see how excessive use could develop. Its incredibly benign and pleasant nature means that I will occasionally find myself wondering if I should have some when I get in from work just because I can. I find myself trying to come up with good reasons not to, but inevitably fail and find myself reaching for the vial. It is possible that if I did not record my drug use religiously then I might be less in control. I know that others have struggled to use moderately when they have supplies to hand.

Combining MXE with alcohol seems incredibly risky. I've seen a few people absolutely wasted after just a few drinks and then some MXE. They become incredibly confused, disorientated and often stuck in thought loops.

I did not enjoy MXE in combination with cannabis. I usually dislike the memory inhibition of cannabis, and combined with the confusion of MXE it was equally unbearable.

MXE seems great at the end of MDMA as it seems to bring back the floats a bit and generally eliminate the feeling of “Oh no, I'm coming down, I don't want it to end, I should redose.”

Overall I think MXE is an absolutely wonderful drug with both therapeutic potential and excellent recreational potential. In the grand scheme of things it seems pretty safe and I think its banning in the UK was a great shame. I do not anticipate allowing myself to ever run out of it.
 
Lovely write up of your experiences, I've been using mxe for about the same length of time as you so you may have spurred me on to write up my own!

On the confusion topic, do you not find that the confusion fades the more you were using MXE? Like, 30mg the first week compared to 30mg 2 months in would cause very different ammounts of confusion?
 
I can't say I did. I quite enjoy it though, it's kind of a funny thing about MXE that I quite enjoy, so I never made an effort to get past it.
 
Fair enough, I found that about about 3 months of (fairly) persistent use, I wouldn't be confused at all anymore. Even at very high doses.

Also, I forgot to comment on your mention of the contemplation and philosophical side to MXE: I definitely found this too. In fact I'd directly correlate my MXE use with having found some more calm and content in life, and my attitude towards others, simply through some of the revelations I've experienced from it's use. And I don't believe that's really afterglow, as I've been out of MXE for quite some time and those changes haven't differed.
 
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