Stimulants Methamphetamine Withdrawal Response Pattern

[Absoluteolive]

A big part of a bad meth comedown is the anxiety and ruminating negative thoughts. If you are very psychologically healthy and at peace with yourself then I expect comedowns might be a lot easier because you have no fears or anxieties for it to latch onto and turn against you. If you can reach Nirvana you are probably safe from meth comedowns.

This is what I’m trying to avoid. I was clean for a year and a half ans now went on a 5 day binge. It was crappy quality And about an ounce or less. I’m hoping I won’t be having panic attacks. I have panic disorder as it is. I stopped taking my Prozac and gabapentin while on it. Maybe if I hit back in them right away I won’t panic as much? Any ideas what I can do to help the anxiety? I would love to be able to smoke on w in a while without going insane at comedowns. Any info appreciated

 

[Jabberwocky]

This is what I’m trying to avoid. I was clean for a year and a half ans now went on a 5 day binge. It was crappy quality And about an ounce or less. I’m hoping I won’t be having panic attacks. I have panic disorder as it is. I stopped taking my Prozac and gabapentin while on it. Maybe if I hit back in them right away I won’t panic as much? Any ideas what I can do to help the anxiety? I would love to be able to smoke on w in a while without going insane at comedowns. Any info appreciated

Withdrawals get easier each time with meth (in my experience anyway). I nearly killed myself the first one but after many more I learned to cope with little more than 5-10 mg valium and 50-100 mg seroquel.

What made the big difference was getting good at Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) and Mindfulness that I learned in rehab and kept practicing afterwards.

Learning that panic and anxiety are just the result of out of control thoughts, that those thoughts can’t actually hurt you, and that you can control them makes taking stimulants a whole lot easier and more fun.

 

[Jabberwocky]

This is what I’m trying to avoid. I was clean for a year and a half ans now went on a 5 day binge. It was crappy quality And about an ounce or less. I’m hoping I won’t be having panic attacks. I have panic disorder as it is. I stopped taking my Prozac and gabapentin while on it. Maybe if I hit back in them right away I won’t panic as much? Any ideas what I can do to help the anxiety? I would love to be able to smoke on w in a while without going insane at comedowns. Any info appreciated

The whole Prozac thing is problematic. Many people get discontinuation / withdrawal effects for a long time after they stop. So what happens is they stop long enough for the meth or other drug to give then a high, but the anxiety/panic that are part of the discontinuation effect is still there. So they get a fucked-up anxious high.

Also, an ounce (28 grams) in 5 days is a truly fucking epic quantity of even crappy meth for a casual user. Even at the end of a one year almost daily IV habit I was only doing 1 to 1.5 grams in 24 hours. And having at least a 2 day break every week. So 5 days would usually never be more than 5 grams.

It is possible that your Prozac was increasing your perceived tolerance and allowing you to consume way more than normal without getting too high. This used to happen to me with antipsychotics. However, when such drugs block the euphoria they don’t block the cardio-vascular effects meaning you still can overamp and get anxiety and panic amongst other symptoms.

I can’t comment on Gabapentin because I basically have no idea what it is or what it does and it seems to be a thing opiate guys are into.

Basically all the info in this thread suggests to me that Meth is not a good drug for you while you have a panic disorder and are on an SSRI. However, if you can isolate what it is about the Meth experience that you really like and are after maybe there is some other drug that can get you where you want to go? For example, I never really cared about the euphoria so much as I liked the pro-sexual effects and the sense of calm concentration and focus that meth gave me - so it was easy enough to substitute dexamfetamine, viagra and valium in low doses when I wanted that kind of party.

 

[Absoluteolive]

The whole Prozac thing is problematic. Many people get discontinuation / withdrawal effects for a long time after they stop. So what happens is they stop long enough for the meth or other drug to give then a high, but the anxiety/panic that are part of the discontinuation effect is still there. So they get a fucked-up anxious high.

Also, an ounce (28 grams) in 5 days is a truly fucking epic quantity of even crappy meth for a casual user. Even at the end of a one year almost daily IV habit I was only doing 1 to 1.5 grams in 24 hours. And having at least a 2 day break every week. So 5 days would usually never be more than 5 grams.

It is possible that your Prozac was increasing your perceived tolerance and allowing you to consume way more than normal without getting too high. This used to happen to me with antipsychotics. However, when such drugs block the euphoria they don’t block the cardio-vascular effects meaning you still can overamp and get anxiety and panic amongst other symptoms.

I can’t comment on Gabapentin because I basically have no idea what it is or what it does and it seems to be a thing opiate guys are into.

Basically all the info in this thread suggests to me that Meth is not a good drug for you while you have a panic disorder and are on an SSRI. However, if you can isolate what it is about the Meth experience that you really like and are after maybe there is some other drug that can get you where you want to go? For example, I never really cared about the euphoria so much as I liked the pro-sexual effects and the sense of calm concentration and focus that meth gave me - so it was easy enough to substitute dexamfetamine, viagra and valium in low doses when I wanted that kind of party.

I meant a gram.. lol I’ve been out of the drug game for a minute so I forgot my metric measurements because I’m a dummy from the USA.. yeah. That was not an ounce-

 

[2spun4one]

I smoke night/day, every day and have been like that for years. Obviously meth is a huge part of my life, but at the same time, I live my life just as everyone else you see day to day. I don't get high to sit and dwell on my exact feelings from certain things, I don't have time to devote to any of that because I'm too busy living my life and I go through all of the same moods/feelings like everyone else going through life experiences.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I smoke night/day, every day and have been like that for years. Obviously meth is a huge part of my life, but at the same time, I live my life just as everyone else you see day to day. I don't get high to sit and dwell on my exact feelings from certain things, I don't have time to devote to any of that because I'm too busy living my life and I go through all of the same moods/feelings like everyone else going through life experiences.

I probably could have continued like that happily enough for years. My health and sanity were fine and i was quite happy. I just knew I could achieve more in life if I put my mind to it. I’m too ambitious (not for money but for some other kinds of goals) to live on meth permanently. It did dumb me down.

 

[sunshine.hurricane]

This is what I’m trying to avoid. I was clean for a year and a half ans now went on a 5 day binge. It was crappy quality And about an ounce or less. I’m hoping I won’t be having panic attacks. I have panic disorder as it is. I stopped taking my Prozac and gabapentin while on it. Maybe if I hit back in them right away I won’t panic as much? Any ideas what I can do to help the anxiety? I would love to be able to smoke on w in a while without going insane at comedowns. Any info appreciated

I am on buspar for my anxiety. It can get bad, so I have continued to take it everyday. I know it inhibits the meth a bit, but thats a lot better than all my anxiety coming out in a wild rage