Freidenker
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Is it true that the effect of MDMA is canceled or reduced if you have taken before Speed? and if so why?
i've tried this twice and i only ever felt much from the mdma once the amphetamine off
I thought this combo was very common in pills because of the increased euphoria?
i don't often see it in pill testing results, and it seems to depend on multiple factors (individual differences, tolerance (some people who've abused mdma in the past find that adding amphetamine to the mix intensifies the effects again), dose, ...).
but in my experience mixing amphetamine and mdma makes me feel almost sober, as if the two were counteracting each others effects.
I had the impression that most pressed ecstasy tablets contain at least a small amount of amphetamine or caffeine. I've seen people here say that larger doses of speed will overwhelm the mdma experience.
Mdma entirely on its own is a somewhat lethargic experience. A small amount of amps makes for a more energetic experience.
Diloadid said:I'd imagine if you'd been on a (meth)amphetamine bender days before taking MDMA some of the common stimulant effects might not be as pronounced. The tactile/empathogen sensations should still be pretty noticeable tho'.
Now, Cocaine and Methylphenidate being DRIs might stagger the overall MDMA experience. I'd stray away from the blow.
me too. that's why i tried again, execting different resultsJWills20 said:I find that counterintuitive.
if your getting good stuff then you shouldnt have to do "massive" amounts to feel it.(depends on what your looking for; being in an interesting situation, or a comfortable one) You just have to be in tune with your self and understand your feelings. the base of every amphetamine high is increased heart rate. As your heart uses more energy physically, the chakra in your heart starts flaring up whith love energy which is a good source of positive energy. Mdma gives you a relatively (everything is relative) low frequency (mostly body, some subconscious mental stimulation) high in your body and feelings and ego which is caused by increased serotonin flow to the brain. The pineal gland regulates melatonin and serotonin in your brain. Melotonin (sleepy time) is derived from serotonin (8() so my theory is the higher you are on mdma (more serotonin floating around) the easier it is to fall asleep. The pineal gland being the physical representation of your third eye, (Do the chemicals in your brain create your thoughts, or do the thoughts create the chemicals?) starts producing more serotonin when you are active and in a bright environment, your pupils dilate to let in even more light but if you sit down or close your eyes for too long molly will put you right to bed. If you can maintain consciousness with this sleepy and dream like state meditation can be very fun and even slightly enlightening (listen to how you feel). meth gives you more of a high frequency brain high. The increase in conversation, imagination, and understanding comes from more dopamine. This increase in mental activity is usually coincided with an increase in physical activity which keeps you from turning all your serotonin into melatonin. If your mixing the two ime mdma slightly dilutes meth. The more low frequency ( imagine the visible spectrum, anything lower frequency than red is infrared, then orange, then yellow) energy in your body the harder it is too concentrate on higher frequencies ( The color of the highest visible frequency to humans is violet, below that indigo, then blue). in between the hot (red, orange, yellow) and the cold (blue, indigo, violet) is green, which is neutral to the hot and cold scale, it is in the perfect center of the spectrum. (hot and cold are examples)about the mechanism i can also not think of a logical explanation why amphetamine would do that. maybe something to do with vmat2 or something? or taar1?
but for me and at least a bunch of other people (i know some irl, but also on bl; there's one report in trip reports of someone doing massive amounts of both without feeling much at first, he ends up in hospital as the amphetamine stops working enabling the mdma to hit) these two drugs interact in a way that makes you feel less of both, just as you would expect with a sri/dri.
taking mdma/mda after being on meth for a night (or two) will stimulate your mind and make you more talkative for a while, and you can take very small doses and still feel it. As i said earlier mdma/mda makes your body and subconscious at ease and allows it to rest so that can be helpful after being on meth for a while (which can be stressfull) i also find that mdma/mda makes me feel slightly nauseous sometimes but i can usually hold myself together.(no nausea from meth) Stay away from the blow!? Cocaine is literally the best waste of time and money ever, it doesnt even get you high. Sure it smells great and you can feel your heart going and your face is numb but it just stresses out your body and ego. cocaine/crack werent created to get high they were created to make money. but blow is really fun when your drunk.I'd imagine if you'd been on a (meth)amphetamine bender days before taking MDMA some of the common stimulant effects might not be as pronounced. The tactile/empathogen sensations should still be pretty noticeable tho'.
IME when I dose MDMA with a stimulant such as methamphetamine (at a low dose) it just increases the euphoria slightly and provides a more jarring stimulant kick..." "...I'd stray away from the blow.
The methamphetamine in the MDMA plus methamphetamine combination will make you chattier, perhaps less emphathic, and well, just overall geekier, but it's great for dancing all night and dancing very well, at that.
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine contains no methamphetamine they are completely different chemicals both in the amphetamine class unless your buying mdma thats cut with meth
Ye it took me a while but I know what you mean now lolRead what my posts actually says again. Repeat if necessary.