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Making sense of methylphenidate pharmacodynamics

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Compd[9]_ DAT (Ki) _DA (IC50)_ NET (Ki) _NE (IC50)

D-TMP ____161 _____23 _______206 ______39
L-TMP ____2250 ____1600 ______>10K ____980
DL-TMP ____121 _____20 _______51 ______788

How can the IC50 of DL-TMP (racemic methylphenidate) POSSIBLY be more than double that of D-TMP? This would imply that L-TMP lowers the efficacy of d-TMP, possibly by binding competitively to NET, and thus displacing d-TMP.

But that wouldn't make sense, due to the Ki values in the table showing that L-TMP has no affinity for NET.

Shouldn't racemic TMP be at least as half as potent on NET as d-TMP is, provided that l-TMP is not a competitive ligand?
 
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measurement errors

Ki's and IC50 assays are never exact. Also, Ki and IC50 values do not correlate 1:1.
 
For further extrapolation could you please post the study name and/or (pref.) the pdf (no journal access atm)
 
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