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Yourbaker

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Over the last year or so I've seen a lot of posts on BL from members who have been using marijuana in various forms medically. There are a lot of random success stories and positive outcomes spread over hundreds of threads. I thought it might be nice to start a thread for those of us that are having success. With marijuana I know my success may not have any effect in your outcome but knowing some of us are living the most successful/productive lives we ever have might help a few people remove the 'boogieman' from their mind.

So here's my story in short form.

I'm mid 50's started using recreationaly 8 years ago to supplement my alcoholism as weed was cheaper. I became a medical user after 4 years when I realized I was working through my shit mentally (episode of ptsd and I'm adhd, alcohol being the legal drug I used to escape). I used edible oil and was over 500mg thc daily. I had a bit of an epiphany one day and quit drinking (~ 20 years of drinking hard liquor mostly vodka so I could work and drink). I quit with no withdrawal besides a month of sweating, I used marijuana nothing else. I had done a few dry outs before quiting and managed about 10 weeks dry but no more then 2 in a row. Suddenly I just stopped and I have no craving to drink any longer.

My ptsd is history and although I still have some of the adhd issues marijuana helps me focus, I expect in time to not really need it, my dose is about 15% of what it was (70mg/day now).

Socially my life is better, economically my life is better, in 2016 I earned more then ever in my life and still took 4 months off work. I've lost about 15kg and am in the best physical health I've been in since my 30's.

I give credit to marijuana for assisting and specifically for being just enough of a psychedelic to jar me loose of the dark place I was in mentally. The big pill to swallow was that I was wasting my life and weed was the small pill that helped me stop.

Maybe a few other people have some success they could post here.
 
Salutations YourBaker,

Over the last year or so I've seen a lot of posts on BL from members who have been using marijuana in various forms medically.

There's no doubt about that, though one should also keep in mind that some of "us" just refuse to get categorized by total 3rd-party strangers either as a "medical" user or a "recreational" consumer, which IMHO is some constrained perspective designed by bigot anti-cannabic prohibitionists to support not so contrasting underlying consequences resulting from such politically-correct media-fashioned words exactly. Briefly put medical means "don't shoot", recreational means "stoner"/"droÿé"... M'well, that could be tagged as a caricaturized sample of my imagination i must admit, but i won't be the least bit surprized every single time this simple bipolar logic shall actually apply in the land of cap'tain Canuck, on planet Itnoc:

In The Name Of Children!

8)

Sorry guys but it was this type of blind ("black box") dynamic socio-toxic system which actually hit a man to death in Montréal-Nord/Québec Canada on April 1st last year: although i'm all too aware there's no "love" for Jean-Pierre Bony i feel obliged to remind Canadian voters what's the cost of Trudeau's "legaleezation" so far. Pardon me such blantant topic steering...

Now i'm expecting that we'll eventually see how it ends up with the multitude of little grey-area "details" which vanish/disapear between white and black zones as defined in the political realm, as if the "casualties" never existed. The goal justifies the means...

So, thanks but no thanks. Are you with me? ;)

...

Please simply consider there's a 3rd option here and i certainly don't want to sound like i myself try to impose arbitrary sand-box limits for such a crucial debate:

a) Medical - Those are the non sinners, essentially; on planet Itnoc 100 % martyrs would be prefered instead...
b) Recreational - Only TOTAL ABSTAINANCE can "cure" those lesser sub-humans, lets tag them as wild animals!
c) There's no such thing as a "medical" and/or "recreational" Trudeau-Mania BOX where to fit everyone by force.
d) ...

...

Yet i'm prepared to use/accept this artificial nomenclature for the purposes of a constructive exchange. I'm just hoping somebody understands why i find the systematic classification so shocking, knowing the extreme forms of abuse this can make possible when allowed by a system which turned sicker than those it pretends it can "cure", tenfold!! Please don't feel insulted because you've adopted the medical/recreational ultimatum, but it is also important to consider that's not how things conveniently settle in real life scenarios for every human on earth.

So, it's not even about obstructing the topic: on the contrary, i find it urgently requires much closer attention. To read/decode between the lines, because starting from the moment we give up to the medical/recreational crushing machine there's no looking back for what was lost in hope of making lame gains that didn't have to come at such a high cost, except to serve less than noble political objectives. In other words remember the medical users are taken hostages to support a socio-toxic ideology with their own signature. And why socio-toxic, well simply because the treament of Trudeau's pesticide-laced "mari-caca" is radically different from that involved for alcohol, tobacco and so many other targets of a "sins" industry where the real product is "us", humans, serving as the crops of the "legaleezation" Liberal crushing machine.

M'well, that's one way i'd put it this morning anyway. Forgive me if that sounds rude! Not to mention i don't know of a similar system with "medical" vs "recreational" alcohol, tobacco, lotery, etc... All heavily taxed to compound more problems together, etc., which i can express as 1 single word: VILIFICATION. The opposite of "BANALIZATION", if one follows what i mean...

There are a lot of random success stories and positive outcomes spread over hundreds of threads.

Hummm... That's funny, i was under the impression the Cannabis Discussion page has consistently displayed a "wall of shame" over the years, on the contrary. On another hand we must take care to account that my comment is about chosen title formulations which i often found clearly provocative if not abusive in some cases. To be honest there were occasions where bold controversial statements passed by as a question no sweat, etc. At least i can tell the titles ain't always as inviting as yours today, if it can help with eventual apprehensions as you read further...

;)

I thought it might be nice to start a thread for those of us that are having success.

Oh, i had success all right. The only thing is i can't share the fun of it. Now, if i think of it somewhat further then lets just mention that my TinyPic and Cannabis -dot- Com content (or disapearance of it) started to reflect some huge swap of status, double with some sudden/peculiar interest, apparently related to content published elsewhere on yet another system: after being subjected to a cyber attack under the excuse that i'd be a "spammer" some huge amounts of experiences and other texts/images were rendered even less valuable to the "community" than this already was, thanks to all sorts of troll techniques, etc. Euh... But i had success nonetheless, it's only a matter of facing yet another form of blockade, this time not even allowing people to know/learn about it, hence i'd warmly recommend taking a peek at it right here before my externally-hosted picture all disapeared:


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...help a few people remove the 'boogieman' from their mind.

In my own personal case this symbolic "boogieman" used to come from non-consumers but i can see signs of it even within the pro-cannabic on-line "community" since it gave rise to socio-toxic content it can no longer blame the bigots for. I'm thinking of the vaporizer market in particular, as i ended up having to solve my problem(s) alone, isolated and at great expense while facing more than my fair share of grouped adversity. Etc., whatever. So, yes i was successful scaring the boogieman away but there's a risk for those who are unique in the whole universe for the "gift" of "seeing" what the rest of creation does not... Now i'm not confident it can really be called "success" anymore, when viewed at a distance it's certainly more like a bad joke (of destiny?) i think!

But if you need a tool to chase the boogieman, m'well... Maybe i've got what the jobs requires. No strings attached.

...I just stopped and I have no craving to drink any longer.

Hummm... That's quite a bit radical, hence it won't appeal as a solution for a majority of persons i believe. In any case i can find an indirect link with what i'd point a finger at myself: the method of consumption. In the alcohol world there are those who walk around with 1 glass of it, others carry an entire bottle/flask, hiding more in strategic spots around just "to be safe", etc... In contrast i consider it's totally realistic to design/conceive our consumption method in order to promote a healthier lifestyle that was only an ellusive mirage so far. I'm thinking of Dry-Baking Ovenizers selling hundreds of dollars only to end up with irritated airways for a lack of proper designer considerations for what i came to identify as the Release/Transport Agent essentially. These torture devices make us wait long minutes after the elitist paraphernalia performing its task, while some of us as myself cumulate unseen deficits until it's time to pay the (hidden/delayed) bill. Etc., etc.

M'well, there was a time of craving with smoking hachish and even with Dry-Baking Ovenizers as well, then there's today and i'm not going back! Alcohol doesn't require drinkers to hold the bottle anymore than "we" have to abuse cannabis in terms of dosage, having no comparable means as a glass. At least i can testify that balloons ain't really about self-awareness and moderation at all, it recenters one's universe around fancy/expen$ive hardware during long minutes which are lost while that time could have been rendred so much more creative - or at least less self-destructive - because that's what abuse often imposes as a conclusion... Hence the need for "metered" toker consumption methods, ideally. E. G. without a "locomotive" effect that invites to engage into an over-consumption loop until the oven baked everything deep, etc. After that there's possibly even more craving ahead, this time from money spent over time-bomb forms of abuse which are still with us as nobody seems to care for the whole matter in its true globality, that i wish could be examined under the "collective" microscope, on planet Itnoc!...

...my dose is about 15% of what it was (70mg/day now).

Oh, then i want to read more about your prefered method of consumption, evidently! Also, have you considered adjusting the CBD/THC ratio??

Maybe a few other people have some success they could post here.

In theory i've developped the concept for a weapon of mass seduction that might wery well happen to save the lost/statistically-ellusive children of planet Itnoc...

Itnoc! Itnoc! Itnoc! { Can't use the slogan often enough! } Itnoc! 8(

Euh...

...via indirect ways which must necessarily pass through adults and with their full willing participation - which is why mass seduction is needed precisely. Because if it's less than a solution capable of killing rolling paper inventaries then we're just wasting more time and effort. The offer has to be genuine, real, fair/honest, etc. I reason that after a couple successive generations of responsible (self-aware) *ADULTS* finally chosen to make the transition to paper-less/combustion-less consumption methods, *FREELY*, then the goal of no cannabis for kids shall become significantly less ideologic in a real world.

Our self-serving politicians pretend it can/will work to cheat using their short-cut brutal manners instead, doing no durable good on the long run as it's a well known fact children emulate adults and hence if one really wants to help with cannabis then it sould be by starting to remove all of the vilification that piled up since the Victorian age, by reversing a decades-old THC-centric culture for example, etc., etc. While in reality the "Harm" of "Mari-Caca" orgininates from those who like to blame "us" for it, after making a dime out of a "sin" industry.

Etc.

Anyway if i happened to succeed opening the window on an alternative perspective then i'll (have to...) be satisfied with this "success" alone!

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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While I see your point about referencing using marijuana as medical vs recreation creating a division or somehow demonizing recreational use I think you just need to consider what makes your use medical to you and what makes it recreational to you. Don't get too worried about what other people's opinions are because they really don't matter.

For reference sake I consider two things when I use that help me determine which use I'm making of my marijuana.

1. If I am below what I determine to be my base line normal self and my use is going to elevate me to normal or above but not into impaired I consider it medical use.

2. If my state of self is normal or acceptable but I use to elevate that to high or impaired my use is recreational.

On a larger scale I consider any drug use that improves the well being of the individual while not creating a detriment on society to be medical in nature.

People with narrow opinions may want a lot more words.
 
Salutations YourBaker,

While I see your point about referencing using marijuana as medical vs recreation creating a division...

That's all those previous pre-emptive words on "Mari-Caca" (from above) ever intended to mean, as far as you and me are personally concerned.

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
Yourbaker...I've been interested in your posts from day one. I remember at one point you spoke of MMJ suppositories that helped your intestinal issues. I suffer extensively with stage 4 disease, affecting not only my GI, but lesions currently along my spine. Although I am enrolled in PM, the pain meds potentiate the danger of obstruction.

I've been trying to figure out access to MMJ, since it's not legal in my state. I was obtaining help from a dear friend who was "medicating" for end stage cancer. I lost my cyber brother in February of this year. My own mother died in my arms in April. The grief and stress has intensified my digestive issues.

I've never tried edibles. I have tried smoking bud (NO) vaping bud (OK) and RSO in syringes (rice grain dosage). Of course it's hard to experiment, jumping through hoops just to access product. I am lost without my mentor. I don't know how much longer I can exist in this pain. I would have hit the exit long ago, if not for the enduring love and support of my husband (36+ years).

I wish you continued success!
 
"I've never tried edibles. I have tried smoking bud (NO) vaping bud (OK) and RSO in syringes (rice grain dosage). Of course it's hard to experiment, jumping through hoops just to access product. I am lost without my mentor. I don't know how much longer I can exist in this pain. I would have hit the exit long ago, if not for the enduring love and support of my husband (36+ years)."

I beg to differ....if you used RSO you used "edibles" (cannabinoids route of administration by mouth/orally). RSO should be a full spectrum weed extract if done right.
 
I disagree samm, I get different effects from RSO vs. heat-infused butter/oil. RSO is much more medicinal. I've heard the same thing from other patients as well.


That's great you've gotten such positive effects Baker.
 
:\ I neither possess the knowledge to debate terminology, nor the desire to do so.

I am a self-professed greenhorn know-nothing, yet unapologetic for seeking potential relief from MMJ.

Yourbaker posts give me hope, in a place where I have little left. I wish you continued success and wellness.

I saw my GI yesterday. She gave me samples of Trulance to try for obstruction-grade constipation, since Linzess and Amitiza have lost effectiveness. I needed emergency Gastrografin enemas twice in 2 months. Her new clinic will offer therapeutic enemas (sans radium)every 8 weeks for patients like me. Those won't be available until August, but sound promising.

She prescribed Lidocaine ointment for my soul-crushing vaginal/rectal pain, with a shot of Toradol. I feel as though I'm being violated with a serrated edge knife in both. I can't tolerate pain meds.

I can't be "fixed" according to specialists across 3 states. I NEED HELP. I'm trying desperately to keep my colon and my sanity. I'm typing through tears, so brb.
 
Hope you feel better soon Dixi.....

If you can make chocolate chip cookies you can make your own edible medicine.......dosing can be hit or miss.

Knew of someone who had bad crohn's all his life.......was originally on lot of cortisone meds(not good long term)started with opiod pain meds when he went in emergency ward and wasn't used to taking them. Got an obstruction and didn't help,
 
:) Thank you, samm2...No real hope for me feeling better.

I've suffered throughout 24 years post radical surgeries (3) to eradicate disease (stage 4 endometriosis). TMI, but truth...the mass that encased my vaginal/rectal canals was described as "softball size". The removal of mass, lesions, attempts to preserve anatomy (sans reproductive organs) and save my life...Well, those efforts have left me a shell of my former self.

I am sorry for your friend who battles crohn's. It's an evil disease, too. Yes, cortisone can be both a miracle and a curse. I was on it for years, as well as Megace, to suppress regrowth of tumors. I made the choice to abandon ship due to horrid side effects. My disease is so aggressive, it mocked both drugs and continued to thrive like Kudzu. It's choking my bowels and bladder, literally.

I'm at the end of the road. No surgeons will touch me and I'm not certain I'd allow them to. I cannot take pain meds, although the necessity is fully warranted. They just make matters worse.

I started experimenting with MMJ in late 2015, I think. I knew nothing (still very little). Yes, I was 53+ and had never touched a recreational drug other than bourbon in college. I never even liked beer...still don't. I use an Arizer when I vape, but have yet to find functional pain relief. I'm basically vaping after work to escape this misery.

That, too, is "hit or miss" because I have a very demanding job that leaves no room for error. I also have family obligations, though less, since my mom died in April. The stress of that relationship, with 12 years for her in the nursing home, has taken its toll. I've not been able to process my grief, as EVERYTHING has hit the fan.

Sorry I got off in the ditch...I need to put myself first, which is a foreign concept to me. I prefer the dosing of MMJ in sublingual drops. The RSO is unpredictable for me, hitting unexpectedly like a truth serum, while high as a kite.

I truly need a mentor in order to utilize MMJ. Even if it can't relieve pain, perhaps the death-wish depression could be lifted a bit.
 
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I disagree samm, I get different effects from RSO vs. heat-infused butter/oil. RSO is much more medicinal. I've heard the same thing from other patients as well.

That's quite possible/probable, a full spectrum extract would have more terpenes, CBD,ect. in it, besides the IMHO the necessary THC of whose psychoactive effect(that scares the h*ll out of old, conservative know-nothings (except to steal money from the people) republican politicians) .....

Can't say otherwise...

That's great you've gotten such positive effects Baker.

Agree

PS: posting on top posted within a post....weird , don't know how.
 
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