Kratom

[Sunshine49]

I want to try a natural pain reliever instead of pills. Read a lot about Kratoms and wondered does it really work for pain.

 

[fermonos]

Well this website doesn't allow sourcing so no one can answer that for you.

 

[NiceEnough]

Soz. Decent Kratom is readily available, just do your research.

 

[Sunshine49]

Thanks

 

[NiceEnough]

I always check carefully what history anybody I think I might go with has with existing customers, preferably in as much detail as you can manage. Instinct is valuable of course as well, but needs to be combined with at least of bit of solid research in my experience. Internet trust ratings are always good pointers if you are not particular research-minded, but don't cover everything.

 

[aspiringchemist]

I have used red veins for 2 years daily to control chronic pain. I typically take 10-15 grams twice daily.
It definitely helps relieve the pain but it's no Rx opioid.

Kratom has somewhat of a ceiling effect, meaning once you've ingested and the effects present, ingesting more will not necessarily lead to more pain relief. in my experience it does extend the duration.

I have also found that kratom has interfered significantly with my ability to benefit from weaker Rx opioids like hydrocodone. 20mg is needed to even register an effect. About 40mg needed to actually relieve pain. 20mg used to be sufficient in a single dose.

There are purported alkaloids with opioid antagonist properties. I've noticed that Rx opioids have become less effective steadily over time as daily kratom consumption continued.

Also, even if I do take 20-30mg hydrocodone I still feel I am missing something. So clearly there are other alkaloids present with addictive properties.

Kratom works well and is currently legal. It has been a true life saver for me. In a world where getting legitimate pain management is near impossible, kratom has proven invaluable. I pray that it remains legal. My pain has become much more manageable since I began ingesting kratom regularly. Just be aware that it does not come without wanted and unwanted secondary effects typical to all opioids.

I do feel the need to say that, IMO at least, kratom is fairly physiologically addictive. If I skip a dose of experience withdrawl akin to Rx opioid withdrawl, though not as bad. I kicked a 5 year heroin habit about a decade ago so I'm familiar with withdrawl

There is plenty of information online about the alkaloids in kratom and their effects. I encourage you to do some research. Red veins tend to produce the most opioid like effects - Bali, Indo etc

Kratom can feel rather serotonergic, especially in the first 60-90 mins post ingestion. I find it similar to tramadol. This feeling used to alarm me and was more pronounced with higher doses of course. The feeling tails off into a sedation with opioid effects. I've found redosing a worth while endeavor anywhere 4 hours post initial dose.

my experience

 

[aspiringchemist]

on top of typical opioid side effects you have to take in to consideration that you are also ingesting rather large quantities of a fibrous ground plant. Granted, my intake is rather high, it can still be a lot on the GI system.

making tea, extracts, or tinctures would circumvent this.

 

[mwfive]

Well this website doesn't allow sourcing so no one can answer that for you.

LOL EPIC!!!! PSML! she can ask for sources for her drug problems which i complained about but then you have the nerve to tell other people off to omg!