Kratomaniac
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Hello all,
I'm very new to these forums. I've read the rules and im gonna try not to break any by posting, so here goes.
I'll start it off by saying If you're a daily user of Kratom and you dose more than once a day, have been for weeks/months/years etc., you may have noticed that kratom has lost its "magic," and any dose after the first one of the day might bring on anxiety/panic attacks, depression, lack of motivation, isolation etc.
Kratom is known for its anxiety-eliminating properties, so you're probably confused as to why the hell it's doing the polar opposite now. I want you all to know that this is VERY common, and is easily stopped (well, maybe not too "easily" if you're taking a shitload every day).
There are several reasons as to why you may be having panic attacks on K:
1) You're taking a strain that's too stimulating for you. If you're prone to anxiety and you take a lot of white vein, good ol' Kratom could be causing that existing anxiety to flare up on you. Maybe try a good Green vein, and if that doesn't work try a Red, as Red is usually the best strain for anxiety.
2) You cut your daily intake way too much way too fast. Say you're taking 30g a day for a while, and you want to slow down and cut your dose down to 15g the next day. That may help you manage the physical WDs rather than going Cold Turkey, but for some (not all), that can possibly bring on a pretty hardcore panic attack, as anxiety is a common withdrawal symptom (you win some, you lose some).
3) You've just taken a dose way LOWER than what you usually take. This one goes hand in hand with my 2nd point, but I wanted to specify that if you're dependent on say 8g doses or something and you take 2 grams instead, that can cause your brain to feel aggravated because it isn't getting as high of a dose as it's used to (similar to how opiates/opiods act) and send you into panic mode. Not to mention, smaller doses are more stimulating, so you can get overstimmed pretty easily if taken too often.
4) You've just taken a dose way HIGHER than what you're used to. If you're content with 8g doses and decide to down 18g, that can really throw your system off. What other people dose REALLY doesn't matter, so if you're happy with taking 5g a couple times a day but KratomLover69420 downs 20g 3x a day, that just means he has a really high tolerance to kratom and/or opiods general. Some people are different, so NEVER go off what other people take. Find your sweet spot dosage and stick with it.
5) You're dosing too often. PLEASE don't chase highs with kratom. By doing so you're only increasing your tolerance and bringing in the negative side effects. Kratom is meant to boost your mood for a while (or ease WDs from other drugs of course), not to keep taking more and more because you're not "feeling high" enough. You can up your dose by a few grams if you don't get what you want in an hour, but thats usually only for when you're getting a feel for a new strain or kratom in general. NEVER do what I did and keep redosing every few hours just cause you wanted to get higher, cause it just isn't going to work.
OR (Drum roll pls)
6) ***You have too much Kratom in your system***
Probably the most likely reason to have these Panic attacks. You've noticed that a Kratom high lasts for several hours, so it only makes sense to think that if you're taking several doses a day for a long time that your body still has a lot of Kratom to flush out. Even though you've come down and aren't feeling high anymore, you've still got plenty of Kratom in your system. I just recently decided to cut my doses back to about 2 per day when I was taking around 5, and I felt pretty shitty. Thankfully I slept through most of the adjustment period, but when I was awake, my body hurt, nose was running, and felt like I wanted to hop out my skin. It's now like the 5th day of being on 2 doses and I feel SO much better all the way around. And the kratom feels better when I do dose. My advice: take a break, or at least taper down a good amount.
So there it is guys, sorry if I was too wordy, I know it was a LOT of info but I really wanted to write this to help out anyone going through the awful terror of Kratom induced panic attacks, cause I've had them last for several hours. NOT fucking fun at all. Try to consider all of these options and see what you can do to change your routine for the better. Hopefully I may have solved some of you guys issues with K. Stay safe, and happy dosing ??
I'm very new to these forums. I've read the rules and im gonna try not to break any by posting, so here goes.
I'll start it off by saying If you're a daily user of Kratom and you dose more than once a day, have been for weeks/months/years etc., you may have noticed that kratom has lost its "magic," and any dose after the first one of the day might bring on anxiety/panic attacks, depression, lack of motivation, isolation etc.
Kratom is known for its anxiety-eliminating properties, so you're probably confused as to why the hell it's doing the polar opposite now. I want you all to know that this is VERY common, and is easily stopped (well, maybe not too "easily" if you're taking a shitload every day).
There are several reasons as to why you may be having panic attacks on K:
1) You're taking a strain that's too stimulating for you. If you're prone to anxiety and you take a lot of white vein, good ol' Kratom could be causing that existing anxiety to flare up on you. Maybe try a good Green vein, and if that doesn't work try a Red, as Red is usually the best strain for anxiety.
2) You cut your daily intake way too much way too fast. Say you're taking 30g a day for a while, and you want to slow down and cut your dose down to 15g the next day. That may help you manage the physical WDs rather than going Cold Turkey, but for some (not all), that can possibly bring on a pretty hardcore panic attack, as anxiety is a common withdrawal symptom (you win some, you lose some).
3) You've just taken a dose way LOWER than what you usually take. This one goes hand in hand with my 2nd point, but I wanted to specify that if you're dependent on say 8g doses or something and you take 2 grams instead, that can cause your brain to feel aggravated because it isn't getting as high of a dose as it's used to (similar to how opiates/opiods act) and send you into panic mode. Not to mention, smaller doses are more stimulating, so you can get overstimmed pretty easily if taken too often.
4) You've just taken a dose way HIGHER than what you're used to. If you're content with 8g doses and decide to down 18g, that can really throw your system off. What other people dose REALLY doesn't matter, so if you're happy with taking 5g a couple times a day but KratomLover69420 downs 20g 3x a day, that just means he has a really high tolerance to kratom and/or opiods general. Some people are different, so NEVER go off what other people take. Find your sweet spot dosage and stick with it.
5) You're dosing too often. PLEASE don't chase highs with kratom. By doing so you're only increasing your tolerance and bringing in the negative side effects. Kratom is meant to boost your mood for a while (or ease WDs from other drugs of course), not to keep taking more and more because you're not "feeling high" enough. You can up your dose by a few grams if you don't get what you want in an hour, but thats usually only for when you're getting a feel for a new strain or kratom in general. NEVER do what I did and keep redosing every few hours just cause you wanted to get higher, cause it just isn't going to work.
OR (Drum roll pls)
6) ***You have too much Kratom in your system***
Probably the most likely reason to have these Panic attacks. You've noticed that a Kratom high lasts for several hours, so it only makes sense to think that if you're taking several doses a day for a long time that your body still has a lot of Kratom to flush out. Even though you've come down and aren't feeling high anymore, you've still got plenty of Kratom in your system. I just recently decided to cut my doses back to about 2 per day when I was taking around 5, and I felt pretty shitty. Thankfully I slept through most of the adjustment period, but when I was awake, my body hurt, nose was running, and felt like I wanted to hop out my skin. It's now like the 5th day of being on 2 doses and I feel SO much better all the way around. And the kratom feels better when I do dose. My advice: take a break, or at least taper down a good amount.
So there it is guys, sorry if I was too wordy, I know it was a LOT of info but I really wanted to write this to help out anyone going through the awful terror of Kratom induced panic attacks, cause I've had them last for several hours. NOT fucking fun at all. Try to consider all of these options and see what you can do to change your routine for the better. Hopefully I may have solved some of you guys issues with K. Stay safe, and happy dosing ??
Welcome to Bluelight!! I'm going to move this to BDD
