It's Only Pizz!! Hitting rock bottom with tramadol? Possible help for those desperate and WD.

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I don't know whether to write this or not, my reputation will probably go to waste when you read this thread. But maybe someone is as deep down as me and doesn't dare to write it (maybe some guest?)

** WARNING: This thread contains sensitive, gross, decadent, and possibly NSFW material. **

When you don't have tramadol? And you are very hooked on him, just like me. You can reuse your own piss and it works fine (too good to be true, in fact).

Tramadol is eliminated primarily through metabolism by the liver and the metabolites are excreted primarily by the kidneys, accounting for 90% of the excretion while the remaining 10% is excreted through feces.29,30,6 Approximately 30% of the dose is excreted in the urine as unchanged drug, whereas 60% of the dose is excreted as metabolites.
source: Vazzana M, Andreani T, Fangueiro J, Faggio C, Silva C, Santini A, Garcia ML, Silva AM, Souto EB: Tramadol hydrochloride: pharmacokinetics, pharmacodynamics, adverse side effects, co-administration of drugs and new drug delivery systems.

Biomed Pharmacother. 2015 Mar;70:234-8. doi: 10.1016/j.biopha.2015.01.022. Epub 2015 Feb 7

So basically, you will be drinking o-desmethyltramadol and tramadol. Too good to be true?

I wrote a report once on a famous conversation site (https://tinyurl.com/yyt46b32).

T+0:00 : Drank 150ml of the piss. Taste not that BAD. I guess thanks to my diet rich in fruits and low in fat or meat.

T+0:15 : Some stimulation and "buzz". But everything can only be placebo.

T+0:30 : Feeling pretty good, watching a movie about this girl pornstar actress of Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace.

T+0:45 : Drinking 250 ml. mixed with strawberry juice. It tasted no bad at all. Maybe something sour and salty.

T+1:00 : I'll take the rest of what's left (something like 500-600ml). Combined with strawberry juice or flavored water kinda (0 calories because calories or food in general kills any opioid high).

I'm starting to feel pretty good. Something stimulated and sense of well-being. The movie looks better than ever.

T+1:15 : Wow. Now I feel I feel somewhat sedated and happy. All withdrawal symptoms passed. So in a way, this worked. Placebo or not.

T+1.45: I smoked a cig, which increased the buzz and it felt pretty good. Anyway, I feel stimulated like a horse, despite taking 3x2mg of clonazepam a little earlier. Honestly, it's not what I expected, I was expecting more euphoria but at least it ending with my WDs. Pupils are constricted, despite taking two coffee earlier too, so that's a good sign.

T+2.30 : Pinpoint pupils at its best. Not much euphoria though. I ran out of energy and now I am sitting quietly watching a movie while listening to my cat snoring. It feels like a comedown for tapentadol, which makes a lot of sense (since basically tapentadol is o-desmethyltramadol plus noradrenaline).

T:+4.00 : I guess the madness is over. Honestly, it's kinda worth it, if you're out of options and you're going through a WD from hell like me, this will works. I'm currently nodding off. I feel pretty good.

T:+8:00 : Damn it!. Did you know what I found in the bathroom? Another bottle of pee. Almost 400 ml. Fuck. I've hit bottom, so more will be another 400 ml. Hahaha. In the end, I almost wanted to throw up.

T:+8.30 : Holy cow!!. This piss did feel different. I definitely felt something. Suddenly, I started to nod off until I fell asleep. I don't know if it was an OD or something like that ( Maybe 400 ml. had too much O-DSMT), but at least I was watching HBO.

T:+12.00 : I finally woke up from my "little" nap and my tongue burns a little. I guess taking your own pee toxins is not healthy at all for your oral health hahahaha. I wash my mouth like three times. Finally I took two clonazepam and went to buy more tramadol a the pharmacy. Back home, I went to sleep a bit.

T:+18:00 : Wow. I woke up in such high mood and without any kind of side effect, maybe a little hunger for something sweet, but that's typical with opioids.

T+24:00 : I still don't have WDs, despite drinking only O-DSMT pee hahaha. I guess it's because O-DSMT half-life its longer than tramadol one. I would definitely rate it as a good experience. At least I didn't have any WDs for 30 hours (in fact I took my first tramadol at T+30:00) and I felt good, happy and active. Despite having hit rock bottom like never before.

It's kind of gross, but as someone told me it's waste-free, recycling, friendly to the environment, besides you save money . I'm afraid to catch some kind of philia with urine from today. Shit. I'm certainly screwed up in the head.

On the other hand, the positive side is that it would be a good anecdote seeing that some holidays are approaching (Christmas, end of the year). :LOL:

If you are short on tramadol, you know, just save a little the day you take it and store in a refrigerated bottle. All the piss since you take your tramadol possibly for about 6-12 hours, given the long half-life of this drug and you drink it while you have WD or if you want the day or days after.

And here goes my internet reputation.

A couple of questions for the experts, is it dangerous to do it constantly? Searching the internet I found divided opinions about it. Is it a way to evaporate this and not lose the metabolite?

PS. I hope I have helped someone, at least by making them a good laugh.
 
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Nah. I think that happened a while ago so I'd not worry about it! :love:

Good news for you though: it's your thread so you can delete the whole thing yourself if or when you change your mind about over sharing (works like a charm i.e. I tend to do it myself now and then)! :ROFLMAO:

Yeah, I realized I lost it a while ago hahahaha.

No man. I won't delete anything (unless I have violated some rule about not posting threads about pee?) Of one thing I'm sure, I definitely won't eat my own shit. That is very low (even for someone like me).

I live on an island shit in the ass of the world. Nobody knows me here. I think. o_O
 
I’m going to read your report supersonic 89. Having similar tram availability issues due to C19. Wow California. Guess where I come from?
 
From your report it seems the whole thing lasted ~3h or less. How long does regular tramadol (not from your pee) lasts for you?
When I took tramadol the high lasted for a long time (probably 6h or even a bit more). But I had like 0 tolerance at the time since I was a very occasional user.
 
I’m going to read your report supersonic 89. Having similar tram availability issues due to C19. Wow California. Guess where I come from?

Yeah man. Here on an island in the ass of the shitworld and yesterday I called the pharmacy and they told me that they ran out of tramadol (in drops, oral solution, my favorite). They only have a shit of boxes of 10x50 mg pills. Fuuuuuuuuuck!!! On Monday I wish I got my shipments for tramadol. Where are you from buddie? Chile too? hahahaha.

I am taking one box per day (500 mg) plus the piss :LOL: (I estimate 50-100 odsmt straight from my cock with good luck) and at least my tolerance has dropped quite a bit these days. I'm saving any piss anyway hahaha. The bottom of my refrigerator is almost full.

Man. I need an urgent lobotomy. :ROFLMAO:

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From your report it seems the whole thing lasted ~3h or less. How long does regular tramadol (not from your pee) lasts for you?
When I took tramadol the high lasted for a long time (probably 6h or even a bit more). But I had like 0 tolerance at the time since I was a very occasional user.

Yeah. The piss-high doesn't last long (but it may be from taking too much clonazepam in the morning). In general, my high (euphoria wise) with tramadol doesn't last long either (again euphoria wise). I've too high a tolerance. Some days ago, I took 2000 mg. (!!!) in 5 hours and I think I felt like in heaven (** please, guest or user, don't do it **). But, my good mood with a large dose (1000+) can last up to 24 hours or more. I don't know if that would call it "high" but it's definitely a feeling very different from when I'm with nothing. At 24-30 hours I already begin to feel the first symptoms of WD. Sweat, high libido, stuffy nose, fatigue, bad mood, etc.

I posted a trip report the next day right here, because I felt like it would be my last binge on tramadol and I just wanted to describe it a bit. But I suck expressing myself hahaha. (https://tinyurl.com/yyo26yk2)

Would this work for a taper? hahaha.

Good stuff.

Yeah In fact, I think so, but it's difficult to calculate how much tramadol or o-desmethyltramadol you are drinking. In fact, I recently drank too much and began to feel muscle jerks throughout my body, as I have not had in a long time.

But to the guest or user reading this (who is ashamed to ask) I would just tell them to drink slowly until they feel their withdrawal symptoms have stopped. You don't need to get high on piss haahhaa.

I myself am now taking 500 mg. of tramadol and pee that I saved from a heavy tram consumption day and I feel great. No side effects. In fact, refrigerated pee tastes a thousand times better.

It tastes like tap-water with a certain chemical taste (tramadol plus metabolites of the benzos I took yesterday?).

P.S. Some mod please changed my status to piss-drinker. :ROFLMAO:
 
Oh god. This is insane!!!!

I can't wait to tell people about you. You would be like some epic dude around here! Unreal, unless the general public is staying high on opiates by saving their piss up. Unlikely :)

Man. It's this C19 shit, plus I've been out of work for almost two weeks and have spent most of my savings. In this shit town we hopefully have ibuprofen on pharmacies :ROFLMAO:

But, I ordered a lot of tram yesterday and I hope I arrived on Monday (usually it takes that). So the insanity will stop for a couple of days :LOL:
 
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Here is an excellent comment and contribution from my buddy @dalpat077 (I hope it's okay that I cited you mate) with some ideas on how to improve the "process".

Now I'm not sure I'm even comfortable posting this but here goes anyway (note that the post may be edited or deleted at some point):

Based on my knowledge of what piss looks like once you've imbibed VATS of booze (in particular Whisky and water anyway): eventually your piss becomes clear (by that time you are ROCKING for sure). Logic dictates to me then: don't eat AT ALL (fasting) and drink as much water as possible until such time as your piss is clear. THEN take your Tramadol and enjoy. From that point on: you collect the piss (until there's nothing left). At this point it should be clear and not be smelling or anything like that. Add some citric acid (preferably powdered form mixed with distilled or purified water but lemon juice will do in a pinch as long as there's no intention to IV this shit) and some ethanol (preferably 70% - 90% ethyl alcohol but Vodka will do in a pinch) (maybe on a piss/citric acid/ethanol ratio of 80/10/10 or 60/20/20). This should kill any bacteria and make suitable for storage. The added benefit of course: you'll have a nice lemony flavored drink! And, well, there you go. Chill in the fridge and drink on the rocks (with ice) and, well, could even become a pleasurable experience!

Bonus feature: be taking your benzodiazepines while going through the fasting process (this if necessary for withdrawal). By the time you've gone through the whole procedure and after taking your Tramadol: well the resultant formulation (let's call it that from now on as this is grossing me out big time) will not only contain the Tramadol metabolites. Bonus! :ROFLMAO:

From some cursory and further reading: there's indeed something called "solid-phase extraction" of Tramadol from blood and urine. Seems to be a fair amount of documentation on the subject too. But also seems to me there's a fair bit of expertise, chemicals, and equipment required (although I could be wrong)! Damn sure there's somebody around these parts that could help you out here with details!

source: @dalpat007

I'm still not quite sure about lemon juice or citric acid thing (it doesn't do something to the metabolites in the piss does it?) I'm not a science guy so I'm asking from ignorance.
 
Man. It's this C19 shit, plus I've been out of work for almost two weeks and have spent most of my savings. In this shit town we hopefully have ibuprofen on pharmacies :ROFLMAO:

But, I ordered a lot of tram yesterday and I hope I arrived on Monday (usually it takes that). So the insanity will stop for a couple of days :LOL:

I have been out of work all year! Thank god I had some money saved. I will be fucked soon though if no job. So looking hard. I used this to clean up a bit since no way could be spending $30 a day on beer minimum. $15 on cigarettes. Thats another rent payment. Impossible when not working. Got my habit down to $10 a day basically, so not so bad now.

Covid fucking up everything here too in the pharmacies.
 
the general public is staying high on opiates by saving their piss up. Unlikely :)

Jokes aside, this is not a comment that I cant pass up.

I know that oxycodone is excreted mainly in the urine (80 percent?). Mainly metabolites (good or bad? I don't know).

The case with hydrocodone is more positive, since the hydromorphone metabolite is mainly excreted (!!!). What percentage of this through urine, I don't know.

Codeine also appears to be excreted in the urine.

Here's a rather interesting article (https://www.vice.com/en/article/avndvp/tinkle-tweaking-v18n6), as it appears that extracting meth from urine is a "thing."

In short, it's an interesting topic to investigate. How could these metabolites be extracted from the urine? Evaporate? After what? Sorry if I'm talking too much and breaking any rule.

But, you have to be crazy and insane like me to drink urine. Perhaps others have done it but only I have the mental insanity to shout it from the rooftops. o_O
 
Could you crystallize your piss and maybe sniff it?

IV'ing would be another level and probably so many things dangerous about it.

IV is a BIG NO for me imo. Also, my veins are too small. That would be crazy. Although urine was used in ancient times as an antiseptic (or am i too high right now?).

Interesting study that shows that urine is not sterile so inject that, NOT to mention. If you already drink it seems crazy. Although I know that in certain countries it is done to purify and cure certain diseases.

 
I'm definitely high because I'm talking or writing too much. I wouldn't even know very well how to interpret these studies. Maybe I need the help of someone with better scientific knowledge.
 
Perhaps others have done it but only I have the mental insanity to shout it from the rooftops

Im gonna start checking around. I have a feeling I know someone that might. He would drink bong water when we were kids. Also he wanted to IV a bag of dope I ate and shit out. I wouldn't be shocked if I bring this up and he is like.....I do it all the time!
 
Im gonna start checking around. I have a feeling I know someone that might. He would drink bong water when we were kids. Also he wanted to IV a bag of dope I ate and shit out. I wouldn't be shocked if I bring this up and he is like.....I do it all the time!

Please man. There is a kind of taboo about urine. It doesn't bother me at all.

Feces are another THING. Definitely disgusts me. Never fall so low. Not even me. :ROFLMAO:

There was a famous guy in my country who made parties where street-boys shit on his chest and he ate that shit. Crazy stuff.
 
I don't know whether to write this or not, my reputation will probably go to waste when you read this thread. But maybe someone is as deep down as me and doesn't dare to write it (maybe some guest?)

** WARNING: This thread contains sensitive, gross, decadent, and possibly NSFW material. **

When you don't have tramadol? And you are very hooked on him, just like me. You can reuse your own piss and it works fine (too good to be true, in fact).





So basically, you will be drinking o-desmethyltramadol and tramadol. Too good to be true?

I wrote a report once on a famous conversation site (https://tinyurl.com/yyt46b32).

T+0:00 : Drank 150ml of the piss. Taste not that BAD. I guess thanks to my diet rich in fruits and low in fat or meat.

T+0:15 : Some stimulation and "buzz". But everything can only be placebo.

T+0:30 : Feeling pretty good, watching a movie about this girl pornstar actress of Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace.

T+0:45 : Drinking 250 ml. mixed with strawberry juice. It tasted no bad at all. Maybe something sour and salty.

T+1:00 : I'll take the rest of what's left (something like 500-600ml). Combined with strawberry juice or flavored water kinda (0 calories because calories or food in general kills any opioid high).

I'm starting to feel pretty good. Something stimulated and sense of well-being. The movie looks better than ever.

T+1:15 : Wow. Now I feel I feel somewhat sedated and happy. All withdrawal symptoms passed. So in a way, this worked. Placebo or not.

T+1.45: I smoked a cig, which increased the buzz and it felt pretty good. Anyway, I feel stimulated like a horse, despite taking 3x2mg of clonazepam a little earlier. Honestly, it's not what I expected, I was expecting more euphoria but at least it ending with my WDs. Pupils are constricted, despite taking two coffee earlier too, so that's a good sign.

T+2.30 : Pinpoint pupils at its best. Not much euphoria though. I ran out of energy and now I am sitting quietly watching a movie while listening to my cat snoring. It feels like a comedown for tapentadol, which makes a lot of sense (since basically tapentadol is o-desmethyltramadol plus noradrenaline).

T:+4.00 : I guess the madness is over. Honestly, it's kinda worth it, if you're out of options and you're going through a WD from hell like me, this will works. I'm currently nodding off. I feel pretty good.

T:+8:00 : Damn it!. Did you know what I found in the bathroom? Another bottle of pee. Almost 400 ml. Fuck. I've hit bottom, so more will be another 400 ml. Hahaha. In the end, I almost wanted to throw up.

T:+8.30 : Holy cow!!. This piss did feel different. I definitely felt something. Suddenly, I started to nod off until I fell asleep. I don't know if it was an OD or something like that ( Maybe 400 ml. had too much O-DSMT), but at least I was watching HBO.

T:+12.00 : I finally woke up from my "little" nap and my tongue burns a little. I guess taking your own pee toxins is not healthy at all for your oral health hahahaha. I wash my mouth like three times. Finally I took two clonazepam and went to buy more tramadol a the pharmacy. Back home, I went to sleep a bit.

T:+18:00 : Wow. I woke up in such high mood and without any kind of side effect, maybe a little hunger for something sweet, but that's typical with opioids.

T+24:00 : I still don't have WDs, despite drinking only O-DSMT pee hahaha. I guess it's because O-DSMT half-life its longer than tramadol one. I would definitely rate it as a good experience. At least I didn't have any WDs for 30 hours (in fact I took my first tramadol at T+30:00) and I felt good, happy and active. Despite having hit rock bottom like never before.

It's kind of gross, but as someone told me it's waste-free, recycling, friendly to the environment, besides you save money . I'm afraid to catch some kind of philia with urine from today. Shit. I'm certainly screwed up in the head.

On the other hand, the positive side is that it would be a good anecdote seeing that some holidays are approaching (Christmas, end of the year). :LOL:

If you are short on tramadol, you know, just save a little the day you take it and store in a refrigerated bottle. All the piss since you take your tramadol possibly for about 6-12 hours, given the long half-life of this drug and you drink it while you have WD or if you want the day or days after.

And here goes my internet reputation.

A couple of questions for the experts, is it dangerous to do it constantly? Searching the internet I found divided opinions about it. Is it a way to evaporate this and not lose the metabolite?

PS. I hope I have helped someone, at least by making them a good laugh.
I wouldn't wanna drink my own pee, but i understand desperate times call for desperate measures. I had tramadol withdrawals once. It was fucking horrible. What's crazy is I've heard even heroin addicts say tramadol withdrawals were worse than any other opiate. Must be because of the long half-life 'cause they're pretty weak.
 
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