Interpretation of "Troll"

[psychedelicsoul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=670if6Etx0o
I'm going to be discussing my interpretations and opinions on "Troll" by Shane Koyczan. Im gonna sort of compare the poem with my beliefs

@1:45
Here he contrasts the mythological trolls with modern trolls. I'm not sure how accurate his description of trolls are... However, I'd argue he's contrasting the legend of trolls with human nature. I believe that all humans have ugliness in our hearts. Some more than others. Subconsciously we know this... We can't see but we can feel the ugliness in our hearts, as well as the goodness. We need some ugliness in our hearts in order to cope with the world around us, but for those who have too much... the real challenge is to cope with themselves. I think our souls all have a form of right and wrong that contradicts our earthly desires. We have empathy but that can contradict the desire for cruelty that's influenced by the cruelty around us... and may possible be cruelty that existed in our very being..
The answer is simple... become heartless and forget about all that shit

Now, what makes us heartless... I mean, we're born heartless creatures since babies have no concept of morality. However, morality is influenced by environment and most people arre taught the basics... don't steal, don't hurt others, ect.
Now, a lot of kids do cruel things because of social benefit. But I'm talking about bullies who really love what they do... Ones who will smile when called out on it and love the concept of suicide. Not all kids bully to be cool. some just plain love hurting others. It's not a matter of "kids bully for attention" or kids bully to get recognized... yea, they do. But in some cases it's just the pleasure of hurting others.
And what makes us become heartless enough to do that?
I think it's a natural human coping mechanism. We choose to ignore feelings of empathy in order to rationalize our own pain. We choose to be heartless in order to ignore our own sorrow, and as a result, we feel no sorrow for others. I call this "natural nihilism". We see on TV, newspaper, and on the internet countless examples of cruelty.
War, factory farming, rape, torture... we have to understand that this is the world we live in. In order to rationalize this, we can easilly accept the nihilism that exists within us

@3:01
People love watching and causing sorrow. Sadism must be in our blood. Look at ancient rome, the way people watched others kill each other in gladiatorial matches, or the laughter they expelled as lions ripped Christians to pieces... Or modern day bullfighting, which is just a slow torture festival.
I think these things represent the passive darkness within peoples hearts. We bully people online because we don't have the oppurtunity to unleash the beast in real life... like the purge or some shit... We want to hurt others, and we want to drive others to suicide just so we could clap, jump up and down and party when they're dead. It makes us feel more evil. At some point the darkness in our heart is so powerful that we have to embrace something we know is bad... not in spite of it being bad, but because it's bad. The more evil we commit, then less we think of morality... And that's a free easy existence. Letting out whatever hatred and malice out of us with no concern about morality.
Being able to laugh and fantasize about your victim crying alone in their beds...

@3:50
Now, about talking strangers into death... I theorize that people who love to see other people commit suicide and are happy when they do that may have some suppressed suicidal tendencies themselves. Maybe it's like using others to act out ones own fantasies about death. But for some reason, we don't wanna die ourselves.. maybe we subconsciously know we're bad people, and we're afraid of what lies before us beyond the grave. Religion has had a powerful impact on us, and the concept of afterlife still affects people... even after they choose to believe in atheism. That subconscious fear of karma still exists... Maybe there is a god and maybe he's pissed at us for the awful lives we're living.
And sometimes we feel the need to further run from all sense of morality. Now that we've pushed a kid into committing suicide... how can we run from the guilt? By running faster. We have to prove we don't feel bad. How do we do that? By trolling the fuck out of a dead kids memorial page. If we all come together fast enough, we can spam more hate comments at one time than the moderator can delete. That'll show their stupid family...
Let's send some mail to them, post their address online so we can all send nooses to the family who's son hung himself. Send a box of razor blades to the family of the daughter who

As we run from our morality, we get exhausted and hungry. That hunger is for more cruelty. The more cruelty we consume, the more energy we have to run from the feelings of right and wrong. Each time we eat (hurt peoples feelings) we consume more negative energy and pleasure ourselves with it... our morality falls further back and we run faster and faster into oblivion.

@4:24
Don't we just love chaos? To be able to turn others into soldiers and watch them fight? We just wanna see things get broken right? We wanna turn the streets into a mosh pit. But a mosh pit that's rooted in ill will and ill intention. A rock n roll mosh pit is just a display of people letting out their rage in good spirits. However, that's not enough for people who's hearts are truly black. We take out our fascination with chaos online and in the real world. IT's like when kids are fighting in class and we all cheer them on to see how much destruction can happen in one place.

@4:33
And here's the point... those who love cruelty are forced to live with their own cruelty. It's almost like a drug. We have to be more and more cruel otherwise the withdrawals (guilt) will show up. You see... while our cruelty gets stronger, the kindness in our heart keeps on chasing it. And more cruelty is needed to escape it. It's a never ending cycle.

And let me wrap this up by saying if you accept the cruelty of others and believe it as truth... you deserve to be bullied. If a girl believes she's ugly and thinks of herself as ugly... then why is it morally wrong to do the same thing? If a kid hates his own sexuality, then why is it wrong to bully him for it? We'd only be reinforcing what they already feel. That's the reason why bullying them hurts so much.
Unlike real bullying, cyber-bullying isn't a big deal...
People getting their ass kicked in school don't have the option of blocking the user.

Now, hacking, illegal shit, and virus making is a big deal... but come on. That's like comparing a terrorist to a school yard bully. The difference between trolling and cyber-bullying is the difference between being a jerk and bullying. When people calling you names online makes you believe their words, you deserve to be bullied and trolled. And if you choose to commit suicide, then you have proven that the bullies were right.

And another thing, before looking at the trolls and bullies, we should look a little bit at the victim... There must be something off about a person if committing suicide will make their classmates jump up and down in joy and sing "ding dong the witch is dead"... I mean how much does one have to be hated before people will continue bullying them after their death.
One must be hated a lot if even death doesn't stop them from being bullied
The weak exists in this world as food for the strong... the weak gazelle is to be slaughtered by the strong lion. When we're on the interenet we have a choice of whether we're weak or strong. When we choose to be weak, we choose to be food for cyberbullies. And well, that's just as much our own fault as it is the bullies.

 

[nuttynutskin]

The op?

 

[tantric]

strangely enough, i once dug into the mythology and symbology of ogres. shrug....why not, this isn't going anywhere....

The WaZimwi - Ogres

waZimwi have jet black skin, curly or kinky black hair, which is usually in dreadlocks, red eyes and protruding lower canines. Males are 3m tall, females around 2.75, both sexes dense with muscle. waZimwi traditionally practice ritual scarification, adding lines and chevrons on their cheeks and whorls on their foreheads. They are not as ugly as standard fantasy Ogres - their features are regular and they lack body hair, but they do have a distinct musky odor (the pheromones of young Ogresses can have a powerful effect on human males). Ogre-maidens are sometimes even beautiful by human standards, but the two races seem to be infertile. Their culture is deeply matriarchal and they are practitioners of polyandry, males being born in a 2 to 1 ratio with females.

The waZimwi have their own villages in the hinterlands of Ubantu, often magically hidden. These villages are ruled by ancient Hags with powerful magic. These Hags gain power from eating Humans and other sapients - they are very fond of elephants. The Ogre Hags are wise and foresightful. They have no intention of being left behind or crushed by advancing civilization. There are long established waZimwi families in all of the large cities throughout the Empire, where the males serve as prestige bodyguards and caravan escorts. Young females, while still beautiful, are highly paid dancers.

As a race, Ogres find humans annoying but at least honorable, as they have kept their word following the War without Hope. And though humans tend to lump Ogres together with the amaZimu races, it isn't wise to do so within earshot of an Ogre. They hate the shapeshifters with a passion, especially the waSimba. Ogre mythology is full of tales of clever Ogres turn the pride of the waSimba against them. Ogres hate Hyenas just as much as humans do. Whereas some humans have made people with the waNgwena, Ogres regard them and Leopards with superstitious dread. WaMhenga are the exceptions, often living in Ogre villages and serving a traditional support role for the village chieftainess.

Ogres who live in the cities of Milikyunjovu are usually waZimwi wabantu, Civilized Ogres. The major city-states (sehemu) are about 1% Waziwmi. Civilized Ogres are just that: civilized. They are well- spoken, immaculately clean and polite, and even courteous and respectful. They are known to sometimes eat people, but never at random. Their anthropophagous urges are satisfied by condemned criminals, and it has been found that the threat of being eaten alive by Ogres is a powerful deterrent. WaZimwi rarely lie, cheat or steal. They are not, in short, openly dangerous. On the other hand, one doesn't cheat an Ogre, and trying to steal from them is recklessly insane. WaZimwi are not interested in human justice - people who die from poison trials are foul tasting, and anyone stupid enough to wrong an Ogre gets what they deserve. Ogres are also fond of gambling with humans, and if at the end of the game the human can't pay up, the Ogre will cheerfully take an arm or leg.

WaZimwi are genetically predisposed to find human flesh extremely tasty. It can easily become an addiction for them. Other than humans, they prefer to eat the meat of carnivores and omnivores. They don't like beef at all, but accept sheep and goat. They prefer to eat dogs in cities. Other than meat, they traditionally cook insanely spiced potgreens and mealie-bread. Fruits are eaten with peels, including types that make humans sick.

Male waZimwi who somehow get lost or isolated go feral, turning into wandering monsters that terrorize the countryside until they are hunted down. Some are born as Atavisms - these mutants are even larger than regular mZimwi and are forced to knucklewalk.

Ogre social structure is based around alliances of related alpha females. Three, five or seven sisters or first cousins rule a given community. Individual females have one to three husbands, which are not related, though preferably their brothers are married to the other alpha females.

Backbush Ogres lives in villages ruled by their hags. Humans are usually wary of their villages, probably moreso than need be. There are several stories of lost children and panicked parents finding them playing peacefully with the Ogres. This is *not* because Ogres don't eat people - they do, with relish, but because the hags know that eating a child would be suicide. On the other hand, human malcontents and thieves living near Ogres have a tendency to vanish without a trace.

 

[swilow]

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