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Imodium (Loperamide) to completely take away withdrawal from opiates

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Hello, new member here. I'm 5 days clean from last using (morphine ~800mg cooked and 1-2grams of H, both IV'd or smoke 3 100mcg fentanyl patches in a day). I last used Saturday morning at 4am, and slept most of the day due to sleep meds, and on sunday i felt like complete crap.
I have school and a lot of tests now so i couldn't miss school but i needed to get off of the drugs, they were ruining every aspect of my life. i have too much to give up. So i looked online and read a lot.
i found that if you take 20-30mg of loperamide (Imodium) then it will, for most people, take away most withdrawal symptoms.

This is because imodium is an analog of fentanyl, made in hopes to be a good painkiller, however it only really helped with diarhea. however to opiate tolerant people, they can take more without causing problems of constipation- it just stops the runs, doesnt constipate you for more than a day. it's closely related to Demerol mg per mg i believe.

i tried 30mg and felt ok, was able to sleep. On monday i took 24mg and felt very stoned from it- an opiate high without alll of the euphoria. ive taken it as followed:
day 1: none
day 2: 30mg
day 3: 24mg - was able to work out in gym and walk 8 miles no problem
day 4: 14mg- was able to work out in gym again and walk 12 miles --- on day 4 of WD!!!!! i was shocked. Also studied for a final exam and passed it, which i couldn't do cold turkey
day 5: 8mg
i plan on day 6 to take 4mg (2 pills)
this is because i heard after long term use, you may end up switching your addiction. but this helped me ALOT. also Gabapentin or clonidine if you can get it, m ost doctors will give it to you if they know you are planning to detox (but if you want to tell them about your use, thats your choice) after withdrawaling 35879 times and 7 years of use, i finally found the best, most painfree way to detox
its not widely known so i wanted to spread this knowledge in hopes it will help all of you.

this helped a lot!: http://www.howtoquitheroin.com/Quitting_Heroin_While_Working.html

best,
A
 
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How did it do for your RLS? Any help? That is the worst of symptoms during withdrawal for many.
 
How did it do for your RLS? Any help? That is the worst of symptoms during withdrawal for many.

Yes, i absolutely agree! the kicking that keeps you up all night... one of the most convincing reasons to relapse. they're horrible. but i did not have ANY RLS which i have a horrible case of normally. i was absolutely shocked at how much it worked. mg for mg its similar to demerol i believe. i had no WD symptoms except maybe a bit more anxiety. but being around people, and having a sunny, not cloudy depressing day outside helps you to be more active, and that helped my anxiety. i have a lot of sleep problems, (300mg trazodone, 1mg xanax and .15 Clonidine is what im normally prescribed) and i have not needed to take as much, and sleep longer than if i do take my full dose.

i really recommend this. Loperamide stops the diarhea, RLS, anxiety (most of it), the cold blood and crawling bugs feeling, insomnia, hypertension to a degree and the other miserable and unbearable WD side effects that have always prevented me from completing a full detox.

i hope this helps!!
 
I know I'm resurrecting an old thread but just wanted to post a follow up... I have tried it with mixed results but for the most part it seems to do the trick. It's not like an Oxy80, but it does make it a little more bearable. With some sleep meds like you mentioned in your case a decent night's sleep CAN be had! It definitely takes the edge off enough too function in life. Sadly, it's just yet another substitute for the opiates. So I would imagine long term use would open you up to a whole new sort of issues, gastrointestinal and excretory have to be mixed in there as well. Thank you for the response though, very well written and presented!
 
Thanks for posting. I am coming off of 20mgs of methadone. I have been using Imodium to help. I have taken anywhere from 12mgs in the am and ten at night and I've felt fine. Though I did allow myself to sleep through most by usting Seroquel and Lyrica. I stopped those today because they make me drowsy and light headed. Does anyone know what a good dosage may be for me. I've only been addicted for a month and a half, I'm a female, and at 5ft 6inches I weight 100lbs. Also, I was a heroin addict many ;years ago, if that matters. Please PM me if you have any advice. I go back to work tomorrow and I really am afraid.
 
I just want to advise anyone thinking of using loperamide in doses used for opioid withdrawal to reconsider. Large doses of loperamide have been linked to life threatening ventricular arrhythmias that have killed. For anyone interested here are some links to relevant discussion and studies I've compiled. Please share this information with others who may not be aware of the potential dangers of loperamide.

Recent BL threads:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ath-mentioned-on-the-Adam-and-Dr-Drew-podcast
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/767532-Loperamide-is-deadly
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/760492-loperamide-dangers
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...iotoxic-A-warning-for-those-who-use-megadoses

Related articles and studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25345436
https://www.clintox.org/NACCT/2013/NAACT2013_Poster_Sessions_III.pdf (PDF)
http://www.empr.com/medical-news/li...-linked-to-loperamide-overuse/article/396218/
http://www.lycaeum.org/forum/index.php?topic=34137.0
 
You need to to look online and find a doctor that prescribes benzos what would be good in conjunction for is 2mg Xanax prob twice a day and some chlonzapam 0.5 since they last long to go threw the with draws Imodium to help squirting you know what I'm talking about take magnesium and ltheanine
 
Thank you for this information Hun I wAsnt aware in my withdrawal I was taking a whole 42 pill count of Imodium at once
《Plasticity》;13249759 said:
I just want to advise anyone thinking of using loperamide in doses used for opioid withdrawal to reconsider. Large doses of loperamide have been linked to life threatening ventricular arrhythmias that have killed. For anyone interested here are some links to relevant discussion and studies I've compiled. Please share this information with others who may not be aware of the potential dangers of loperamide.

Recent BL threads:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ath-mentioned-on-the-Adam-and-Dr-Drew-podcast
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/767532-Loperamide-is-deadly
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/760492-loperamide-dangers
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...iotoxic-A-warning-for-those-who-use-megadoses

Related articles and studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25345436
https://www.clintox.org/NACCT/2013/NAACT2013_Poster_Sessions_III.pdf (PDF)
http://www.empr.com/medical-news/li...-linked-to-loperamide-overuse/article/396218/
http://www.lycaeum.org/forum/index.php?topic=34137.0
 
JUST a a warning for anyone who is thinking of using larger doses of lope for WD. I have a moderately high tolerance. 80+ mg of oxycodone in one dose. Anyways, I recently used lope to try and get through wd. I tried it twice. I took about 30-40 mg. Because of this, I landed in the ER twice, extremely dehydrated, vomited for 3 days, EXTREME abdominal pain like nothing I've ever felt. I also had chest pain. Never again. PLEASE be careful!
 
JUST a a warning for anyone who is thinking of using larger doses of lope for WD. I have a moderately high tolerance. 80+ mg of oxycodone in one dose. Anyways, I recently used lope to try and get through wd. I tried it twice. I took about 30-40 mg. Because of this, I landed in the ER twice, extremely dehydrated, vomited for 3 days, EXTREME abdominal pain like nothing I've ever felt. I also had chest pain. Never again. PLEASE be careful!
See now I can't tell if this stuff is actually good for opiate withdrawal. Been reading both very good and very bad things about it
 
Hey Indefined, lope has been an absolute God send for me in times of WD. I'm in a hurry at the moment and can't really lay it all out but it most definitely does work. Sure, it's probably not a good idea to take massive amounts of it for long periods of time but then again neither is anything else really for that matter. Regarding the post you quoted, yes, it will cause some serious dehydration. But nothing a few extra bottles of water a day won't take care of, which never hurt anybody anyway. Point is, if you're curious, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try and give it a chance, it's worked wonders for me and countless others and the side effect profile of short term usage for WD symptoms is not all that bad if you use it responsibly, i.e., only when you need it to get you through a tight a few days at a time. Personally I've used it up to 2 weeks before, gradually tapering my dosage down until I was taking only 3 or 4 and then stopped completely.... Then went and got my hydro script filled lol. If you've got any specific questions you don't wanna post in here feel free to PM me. Take care.


PS. Oh and yeah the OP was absolutely correct about it originally being formulated as an opiate pain killer :)
 
Hey Indefined, lope has been an absolute God send for me in times of WD. I'm in a hurry at the moment and can't really lay it all out but it most definitely does work. Sure, it's probably not a good idea to take massive amounts of it for long periods of time but then again neither is anything else really for that matter. Regarding the post you quoted, yes, it will cause some serious dehydration. But nothing a few extra bottles of water a day won't take care of, which never hurt anybody anyway. Point is, if you're curious, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try and give it a chance, it's worked wonders for me and countless others and the side effect profile of short term usage for WD symptoms is not all that bad if you use it responsibly, i.e., only when you need it to get you through a tight a few days at a time. Personally I've used it up to 2 weeks before, gradually tapering my dosage down until I was taking only 3 or 4 and then stopped completely.... Then went and got my hydro script filled lol. If you've got any specific questions you don't wanna post in here feel free to PM me. Take care.


PS. Oh and yeah the OP was absolutely correct about it originally being formulated as an opiate pain killer :)
Well I just took 16 mg to help with easing withdrawal from a recent opiate binge so we'll see what happens
 
Well I just took 16 mg to help with easing withdrawal from a recent opiate binge so we'll see what happens
Coming back to report my experience with Imodium. WILL NEVER USE AGAIN. It's been maybe 3 hours since I dosed and it's only made me feel like hell. No symptoms taken away and the dehydration is killing me. It's amazing how quickly this has hit me with pain. Burning stomach and my entire body is so dry. Dry mouth dry skin dry everything and if anything it's made the RLS worse. Fuck this shit in fucking dying. I fee like I'm so dry that my lungs aren't functioning correctly everything I inhale it's like no oxygen is coming into my body fuck and my lips FUCK ME
 
Damn! God man I'm sorry it's doing you that way, I guess it's good you didn't dose like I do around 40 to 50mgs. I understand the dehydration though. I'm not here to try and talk you into something that you don't want to do, not at all. I was just giving my experience and from stories of people I know. I sincerely was trying to help and hope thatyou get better soon. Keep in mind though that WDs in general cause pretty bad dehydration their self.. so that could possibly be the majority of your "dryness" symptoms.. The lope does give those symptoms, but nowhere near as bad as your description and it usually doesn't present itself for at least a few hours after the dose. I kinda feel like you're currently stuck between full WDs and just a tiny enough bit of lope in your system to make you feel different but not fixing anything and it's kinda fighting back and forth.. Did that sound dumb af? I'm sorry, it's like 3am where I'm at and my mind is shot from work today... ANYWAY, If you ever decide to give it another shot you should drink at LEAST 2 to 3 glasses of water with your dose, it makes all the difference in the world and the main thing is to make sure to take enough for them to actually do something. Honestly taking 8 pills isn't going to do shit except make the WDs worse in my own experience (and apparently yours too) because keep in mind, it's shit control medicine, not specifically intended for WDs. However with ENOUGH of it in your system it will occupy your peripheral opioid receptors and stop withdrawals.

Again look I'm not trying to convince you and I'm sorry if it seems like that, I just feel like maybe you didn't quite go about it just the right way and got a bad first impression and I'm sorry that happened to you my friend. I hope your WDs get better soon, you could always take some benzos or muscle relaxers for the RLS also... But write back or PM if you wanna talk and get your mind off of the shit. Later brother.
 
Damn! God man I'm sorry it's doing you that way, I guess it's good you didn't dose like I do around 40 to 50mgs. I understand the dehydration though. I'm not here to try and talk you into something that you don't want to do, not at all. I was just giving my experience and from stories of people I know. I sincerely was trying to help and hope thatyou get better soon. Keep in mind though that WDs in general cause pretty bad dehydration their self.. so that could possibly be the majority of your "dryness" symptoms.. The lope does give those symptoms, but nowhere near as bad as your description and it usually doesn't present itself for at least a few hours after the dose. I kinda feel like you're currently stuck between full WDs and just a tiny enough bit of lope in your system to make you feel different but not fixing anything and it's kinda fighting back and forth.. Did that sound dumb af? I'm sorry, it's like 3am where I'm at and my mind is shot from work today... ANYWAY, If you ever decide to give it another shot you should drink at LEAST 2 to 3 glasses of water with your dose, it makes all the difference in the world and the main thing is to make sure to take enough for them to actually do something. Honestly taking 8 pills isn't going to do shit except make the WDs worse in my own experience (and apparently yours too) because keep in mind, it's shit control medicine, not specifically intended for WDs. However with ENOUGH of it in your system it will occupy your peripheral opioid receptors and stop withdrawals.

Again look I'm not trying to convince you and I'm sorry if it seems like that, I just feel like maybe you didn't quite go about it just the right way and got a bad first impression and I'm sorry that happened to you my friend. I hope your WDs get better soon, you could always take some benzos or muscle relaxers for the RLS also... But write back or PM if you wanna talk and get your mind off of the shit. Later brother.
Yea I know you're not trying to do that. And trust me I would have taken some Xanax if I could get some. Any benzo for that matter. I'm not going to take lop again. I took the smallish dose to see how it affects me because like you said...imagine if I took 40mg. Didn't get any sleep last night, I think we're in the same time zone. Still so dry after drinking a ton of water. Nose feels like it wants to bleed. Still can't breathe. Fuck Imodium. Gonna stick to GABA and exercise and showers and movies
 
《Plasticity》;13249759 said:
I just want to advise anyone thinking of using loperamide in doses used for opioid withdrawal to reconsider. Large doses of loperamide have been linked to life threatening ventricular arrhythmias that have killed. For anyone interested here are some links to relevant discussion and studies I've compiled. Please share this information with others who may not be aware of the potential dangers of loperamide.

Recent BL threads:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ath-mentioned-on-the-Adam-and-Dr-Drew-podcast
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/767532-Loperamide-is-deadly
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/760492-loperamide-dangers
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...iotoxic-A-warning-for-those-who-use-megadoses

Related articles and studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25345436
https://www.clintox.org/NACCT/2013/NAACT2013_Poster_Sessions_III.pdf (PDF)
http://www.empr.com/medical-news/li...-linked-to-loperamide-overuse/article/396218/
http://www.lycaeum.org/forum/index.php?topic=34137.0

^ This post is very important for those considering using loperamide for opiate withdrawals. Small doses are fine to keep diarrhea at bay. Besides the dangers listed above, many people don't realize you're trading one opiate for another. I've seen posts by people who got addicted to lope because they were terrified of going through withdrawals. I recommend the Thomas Recipe to ease the transition:

http://opiatewithdrawaltips.com/thomas-recipe/
 
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