There ya go. Never tried tramadol, that is one of the few opioids I haven't done. It was always much easier for me to find the stronger ones like oxycodone, dilaudid (hydromorphone), opana(oxymorphone), morphine and Heroin which are all anywhere from pretty strong to really strong depending on how many MGs they were and how much you took. Hardly ever came across the weaker ones(in my opinion, some might disagree) around here like hydrocodone, codeine, Percocet, tramadol, etc. But I have heard tramadol is kind of stimulating for an opioid from people I know, did you find it more stimulating or sedating? I have also heard it is sometimes prescribed to people with depression and aren't in pain, as it works as both a painkiller and an anti-depressant really well for some, but for me all opiates worked as an anti-depressant to some extent haha even subs which I now take instead.