Opioids getting sick from drugs

[zagor11]

Has anyone been sick from using or abusing drugs? I met one guy on this forum who got totally ruined mentally from gabapentin abuse. I myself developed a serious condition from oxycodone. My small intestine became slow and sometimes even stops functioning. That sent me to ER twice in 3 days recently. Been to ER before because of it.Now that I reduced my oxy intake by half it still is happening. It must be gabapentin too ciz I have binged few grams at once. Also seen heroin users lose their teeth and get weak bones. Anyone has experience of being ill because of their drugs?

 

[fairnymph]

Um....read the case studies thread stickied. I got cavities from smoking meth 2 nights a month for less than a year (perfect teeth before). As for your constipation, drink more water & take magnesium citrate (as a heavy h user I take 6g daily but start with 1-2). Drugs, both legal & illegal, are generally not good for you & health problems are common. Even if it's 'just' aging more quickly, or becoming depressed. Opiates are actually some of most safe/nontoxic drugs around - it's their illegality that primarily causes problems.

 

[G_Chem]

It?s part of the reason I stopped using heroin, sick as hell when I was high, sick as hell when I stopped..

Most drugs will make one sick over time.

-GC

 

[Someone Who Is Me]

Oh no, I feel your pain. I went to the ER for constipation when I was on heroin two relapses ago (currently clean, 88 days!) and it was honestly one of the worst experiences of my life. I am really, REALLY squeamish about constipation and basically anything colon-related (long story, traumatic experience in my early childhood), so I was already freaking the hell out. The doctor was a total dick. No empathy. Not a nurturing bone in his asshole body. The nurses were sweet as hell, but then they wanted to start an IV, so I told them that I had "just given blood" as an on-the-spot weak ass cover story for my tracks, and the nurse was like "The Red Cross lets you donate out of your hands?" in the type of voice that suggested she was going to repeat it to her coworkers in the break room for a quick laugh five minutes later. After that, the nurses were less sweet. And THEN, when I was finally leaving, they prescribed me mag citrate. I took it that night, which is what they told me to do, but it didn't kick in until two days later. Two days later, incidentally, when I'd run out of h and was dopesick. So I was dopesick with mag citrate kicking in at the same time. Let me tell you. That's not something anyone should experience ever. Ever.

A year later, the same goddamn thing happened while I was on suboxone.

Fuck opiates. (She said, trying to convince herself she wouldn't trade an arm for some right now.)

 

[zagor11]

It is the worst when it gets in small intestine. The pain is horrible. It's like stabbing with a knife. Today and yesterday mornings I get taste of what I ate previous day So it is still present. My belly is huge. Another problem aside from gaining weight on oxy is depression. I reached tolerance to oxy so now none of the opioids will give me euphoria. But instead depression has kicked in. I would be off of oxy by now if these intestinal issues didn't happen. DR. in ER told me to use them for pain. Then I got 2 g heroin but couldn't find a vein. Even nurses struggle to find veins when I do blood work. I wanted to stick it in my shoulder but wasn't sure if that's safe.

Someone: I also had traumatic experience regarding that part. You can share youurs on private if you like I will too.

BTW if someone could point me to sticky re:illnesses from drugs

 

[Someone Who Is Me]

Oh man, that sounds really awful. I'm so sorry you're going through that. Is your belly huge just from the intestinal issues? I ask only because that can be a sign of liver issues too, and opiates are hard on the liver. If you've had a doctor check you out recently, I'm sure you're fine. Oxy always knocked the hell out of my appetite, to the point where I lost like 20 pounds and looked like total shit, but I've heard it can do the opposite as well. I did have some luck taking Miralax every day with tons of water as a maintenance technique. Colace too is supposed to be good for opiate-induced constipation. But I'm not a doctor. I'm just speaking from what my doctors have told me.

I asked my ER doctor about the medications they're always advertising for opiate constipation. I saw ads for it all the time online back then. He told me those meds ran at like $500/month. Brah, given the reason I'm here, if I find an extra $500/month, I can guarantee you it's going into my arm and not my colon. Come on now.

I'm not sure about sticking h in your shoulder. Is there a vein there, or are you talking about intramuscular? That one vein that runs between the elbow and the upper shoulder is safe, in my experience. Kind of near where the bicep is. I've always heard not to go above the shoulder, but that below the shoulder is cool. I fucking hate running out of veins. I destroyed mine with my last run. All my faves are still collapsed.

 

[Star winx]

I am so over Lyrica. That was a hard one.

 

[Jaredborgetti]

Oh man, that sounds really awful. I'm so sorry you're going through that. Is your belly huge just from the intestinal issues? I ask only because that can be a sign of liver issues too, and opiates are hard on the liver. If you've had a doctor check you out recently, I'm sure you're fine. Oxy always knocked the hell out of my appetite, to the point where I lost like 20 pounds and looked like total shit, but I've heard it can do the opposite as well. I did have some luck taking Miralax every day with tons of water as a maintenance technique. Colace too is supposed to be good for opiate-induced constipation. But I'm not a doctor. I'm just speaking from what my doctors have told me.

I asked my ER doctor about the medications they're always advertising for opiate constipation. I saw ads for it all the time online back then. He told me those meds ran at like $500/month. Brah, given the reason I'm here, if I find an extra $500/month, I can guarantee you it's going into my arm and not my colon. Come on now.

I'm not sure about sticking h in your shoulder. Is there a vein there, or are you talking about intramuscular? That one vein that runs between the elbow and the upper shoulder is safe, in my experience. Kind of near where the bicep is. I've always heard not to go above the shoulder, but that below the shoulder is cool. I fucking hate running out of veins. I destroyed mine with my last run. All my faves are still collapsed.

Thats completely false, morphine, opium, codeine, heroin, oxycodone, etc and virtually all existant opiates are completely harmless to the liver as long as they are not a formulation with acetaminophen or NSAIDS or adulterants in street heroin.

 

[Mygoal2019]

Big time sick!!! Suboxone saved my life, teeth, bones, and happiness!! Make sure you get subutex first!!! U NEED anything lmk

I KNOW that is another reason to go on suboxone!! Quickly releaves cravings not ASAP but you WILL live happy again trust me! As far as constipation meds five hundred f em! CALL manufacturer tell them you make NOTHING even if it is not true!.....ul get it!!

I can't private message u i JUST thought of something fkkkk lol

Sorry opiates preserve the body either thats bs or I have GOOD genes!! NEVER tried meth NEVER will! I'm scared I'd like it! Sick but I have to say this decease is medically coded and I wish my parents would of helped me when I was in a coma from cocaine at sixteen!!!! Isn't that a hint!!!? Not blaming them but come on MAYBE I wouldn't be a loser!! Renting own NOTHING but I have to say I am happy at least I always try to be!!

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[mtop2036]

Has anyone been sick from using or abusing drugs? I met one guy on this forum who got totally ruined mentally from gabapentin abuse. I myself developed a serious condition from oxycodone. My small intestine became slow and sometimes even stops functioning. That sent me to ER twice in 3 days recently. Been to ER before because of it.Now that I reduced my oxy intake by half it still is happening. It must be gabapentin too ciz I have binged few grams at once. Also seen heroin users lose their teeth and get weak bones. Anyone has experience of being ill because of their drugs?

Oh boy. I have a condition called gastroparesis which is a partially paralyzed digestive system. In my case it's my stomach and intestines. I'm no doctor but it sounds like what your describing.

Even though I had some stomach issues before opiates it got seriously bad when I got into the higher levels.

About 6 months back i went from 130lb to 84lb, almost didn't make it. I spent 3+ weeks in the hospital and was scheduled to have a feeding tube put in but was able to gain 1 pound before it and the doctors said they would hold off as long as I kept gaining weight.

First they said it was the methadone and it should get better as I taper. Went from 130mg to 55mg and no difference. Then they said I would have to be off it before it gets better, So I switch to subs and no diffrence. Then it's taper the subs and you'll feel better, I'm down from 18mg to .5 and no difference. Now it's i have to be off so opiates before it gets better even though when I was younger and was on more opiates than I am now it was no where this bad. I'll most likely be fully off opiates in about 2 months so well see what happens.

But my point is, since they are telling you it's the opiates you will most likely have to get off before they attempt to help you in any other way. There is truly no way to know if it's opiates or some other condition.

Hopefully when you were in the e.r they have you a referral to a gi specalist, if not if get on the phone with your doctor asap. Trust me, as bad as this seems now it can get much much worse as it did with me. Good luck

 

[zagor11]

Oh man, that sounds really awful. I'm so sorry you're going through that. Is your belly huge just from the intestinal issues? I ask only because that can be a sign of liver issues too, and opiates are hard on the liver. If you've had a doctor check you out recently, I'm sure you're fine. Oxy always knocked the hell out of my appetite, to the point where I lost like 20 pounds and looked like total shit, but I've heard it can do the opposite as well. I did have some luck taking Miralax every day with tons of water as a maintenance technique. Colace too is supposed to be good for opiate-induced constipation. But I'm not a doctor. I'm just speaking from what my doctors have told me.

I asked my ER doctor about the medications they're always advertising for opiate constipation. I saw ads for it all the time online back then. He told me those meds ran at like $500/month. Brah, given the reason I'm here, if I find an extra $500/month, I can guarantee you it's going into my arm and not my colon. Come on now.

I'm not sure about sticking h in your shoulder. Is there a vein there, or are you talking about intramuscular? That one vein that runs between the elbow and the upper shoulder is safe, in my experience. Kind of near where the bicep is. I've always heard not to go above the shoulder, but that below the shoulder is cool. I fucking hate running out of veins. I destroyed mine with my last run. All my faves are still collapsed.

Yes my abdomen is huge only from intestinal issues caused by oxycodone. I don't think I have liver problems like Jekyl said above opioid are not that tough on the liver. Just because I was checked by the doctor doesn't mean Im fine. 7 Months ago when I had this pain without bloating they did throughout investigation including endoscopu, colonoscopy and abdominal ct scan. There was some findings but nothing too concerning. Oxy killed my appetite too but still made me gain 50 lbs since I started using it. I eat 1 small meal every 3-4 days and some sweets in between but even w/o sweets the weight keeps going up.

I think I have water retention too. I drink a lot of tea and 2-3 liters of water a day and I only urinate an ounce or 2 a day. They cannot figure out where the water is going, Thank Gos it is not in my lungs (heart failure) or my legs (liver). Myy family doctor is a nut. He doesn't treat my issues. Instead I have to google my problems and ask for meds. He gives me 99% of the time what I ask for. He gave me 300 mg oxy a day. Ativan, klonopin, nitrazepam, xanax.....He knows I suffer though but any other doctor wouldn't give me even 20% of these meds.

There is a few meds made for opioid induced constipation. I bought one ($100) for 2 weeks and it helps somewhat but causes stomach pain. Regural laxatives are better.

There is no vein in my shoulder. When nurses take my blood they poke me in my wrist. Simply cannot find a vein. 2 g's wasted. I never used H before and was pretty excited because of severe depression but didn't manage to find a vein and was too scared to do it via intramuscular.

It may be against the rules of this website but I would tell you what traumatic experience I gad regarding intestines when I was 13. That's why I asked you if you wanna share your story with me on private, or here if mods allow.

 

[zagor11]

Oh boy. I have a condition called gastroparesis which is a partially paralyzed digestive system. In my case it's my stomach and intestines. I'm no doctor but it sounds like what your describing.

Even though I had some stomach issues before opiates it got seriously bad when I got into the higher levels.

About 6 months back i went from 130lb to 84lb, almost didn't make it. I spent 3+ weeks in the hospital and was scheduled to have a feeding tube put in but was able to gain 1 pound before it and the doctors said they would hold off as long as I kept gaining weight.

First they said it was the methadone and it should get better as I taper. Went from 130mg to 55mg and no difference. Then they said I would have to be off it before it gets better, So I switch to subs and no diffrence. Then it's taper the subs and you'll feel better, I'm down from 18mg to .5 and no difference. Now it's i have to be off so opiates before it gets better even though when I was younger and was on more opiates than I am now it was no where this bad. I'll most likely be fully off opiates in about 2 months so well see what happens.

But my point is, since they are telling you it's the opiates you will most likely have to get off before they attempt to help you in any other way. There is truly no way to know if it's opiates or some other condition.

Hopefully when you were in the e.r they have you a referral to a gi specalist, if not if get on the phone with your doctor asap. Trust me, as bad as this seems now it can get much much worse as it did with me. Good luck

It is definetili stomach and intestines. I think we have the same disease. The doctor was talking about small intestines working slow or stopping to work which means food cannot be processed but I also get a lor of stomac/gastric pain and bloating. I am not losing weight though. Maybe because I am still on opiates. They are not telling me to get off opiates. I am getting off on my own and they dont know that. They did not refer me to GI. I saw a GI 7 months ago and a 150 year old specialist lady said everything is ok with me. But my pain was much worse 7 months ago that now except there was no bloating. It was so severe that I wet my whole bed from sweating and no one in my household heard me almost crying. The pain was like if somebody strong pushes his hand to your stomach and twists it. I never experienced such pain in my life before.

If you don't mind I will add you so we can keep in touch and see how we progress.

 

[zagor11]

Big time sick!!! Suboxone saved my life, teeth, bones, and happiness!! Make sure you get subutex first!!! U NEED anything lmk

I KNOW that is another reason to go on suboxone!! Quickly releaves cravings not ASAP but you WILL live happy again trust me! As far as constipation meds five hundred f em! CALL manufacturer tell them you make NOTHING even if it is not true!.....ul get it!!

I can't private message u i JUST thought of something fkkkk lol

Sorry opiates preserve the body either thats bs or I have GOOD genes!! NEVER tried meth NEVER will! I'm scared I'd like it! Sick but I have to say this decease is medically coded and I wish my parents would of helped me when I was in a coma from cocaine at sixteen!!!! Isn't that a hint!!!? Not blaming them but come on MAYBE I wouldn't be a loser!! Renting own NOTHING but I have to say I am happy at least I always try to be!!

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Suboxone has fucked me up big time. It is an opiate too which doesn't give you a high. You swiched from one drug to another and they are about the same except suboxone is safer. The rest of your post I don't understand

 

[mtop2036]

Sounds more and more like what I have. It got to the point where I felt better starving to death than eating.

I too was drinking a he'll of a lot of water a day yet wasn't peeing much at all. In fact when I had to pre i would spend minutes straining just to have a few drops come out and not get any relief.

Since your only eating 1 small meal a day you're body is probably holding on to the water as much as it can, which is why you probably arnt seeing much come out. At least that was part of the issue for me.

That's great your not losing weight, frankly I'm shocked you havnt.

As you said your doctor is a nut giving you all those drugs, I'm not surprised he hasn't told you to try to get off when he prescribes them. I'd atleast try to get back to another/diffrent specialist and let them know what you're taking and see if they think it's related. I'm willing to bet my life it is.

I'm my experience suboxone can get a person quite high. Since your only taking oxy as far as opiates go, id stay far away from subs especially since you had issues with it in the past. Maybe if you get out of control with your opiates, but for now imo the short lasting opiates are easier to get off.

I wouldn't wish my stomach issues on anyone. I'm sorry your having issues, definitely not fun.

 

[zagor11]

I was on on suboxone 8 months. First in early 2014 I was using and abusing oxycodone and oxyneo in insane doses. Oxyneo is a new version od oxycontin that cannot be crushed at all. To get high I would take oraly but a lot. A doctor told me that lol. I said to one doctor that I cannot get high from oxyneo and she said yes you can if you take a lot. And I took too much. Once it was too close to OD. I also had a lot of short acting regular oxy as I do now. SO 3 years later I ran out and had to go on suboxone. I felt humiliated when I had to go to their pharmacy every day for 30 days and when I would finished my suboxone they required me to open my mouth to see if I disolved it all.

After some 8 months on suboxone I found this doctor and convinced him to give me oxycodone despite the fact that on my netcare file says "addict". I sold him some bs story. SO I switched from 18 mg of suboxone to oxycodone, again. But this time there was no euphoria. It;s been a year and zero high. I appearently reached the tolerance or suboxone fucked something up. Less than 2 months ago I started to wean off. Actually I jumped from 300 mg a day to 120 mg. I tolerated it well with the help of gabapentin and 2 weeks later I was ready to go to 100 mg when stomach issue started. ER doctor did say my problem could be because of that but I don't really think so. I have been having urinary retention as well as water retention even before the pain started.

I still don't have apetite. My abdomen is still big. Not as big as when I had pain but it is big. I guess it is a good thing Im tall otherwise I's look like a barell. From size 32 I went to size 40. I only wear sweatpants now.

I know you can get high on sub if you are opiate naive but if not I don't think you can unless you add other meds.

 

[Someone Who Is Me]

Well I'm really glad you're getting all of that looked at, although it sounds frustrating as hell. You guys are right, opiates aren't really hard on the liver specifically, but abdominal distention is pretty classic liver disease. That's the only reason I asked. Sounds like your doctor ruled it out anyway, so that's good, although annoying that you still don't have answers.

But damn. It always surprises me that doctors like that are still around. When I was into prescription opiates, I would've killed for an irresponsible doctor like that. I ended up having to just buy them illegally, which was insanely expensive, which is why I switched to heroin in the first place.

Have you ever shot the oxy before, or would this time with the h have been your first time shooting something? I don't want to come across as lectury, I've done plenty of impulsive shit in my life too, but it's not necessarily a waste of the 2g to not inject it. If it's your first time with heroin, I'd definitely recommend snorting it first. I'm sure you have a good feel for your opiate tolerance, but I'm always a big proponent of not shooting a drug you're trying for the first time. It's way more likely for shit to go south doing that. *Especially* if you're not used to shooting. It doesn't sound like you're still planning on shooting it, but if a promising vein does happen to pop up while you still have the 2g, I'd snort it the first several times at least before shooting it.

My "traumatic experience" happened when I was two years old. "Traumatic experience" is a bit extreme-sounding, haha. It was more just emotionally scarring and I was a very sensitive kid. I've actually never discussed it before. Maybe it would be good for me to discuss anonymously on the internet, lol. Feel free to message me! Unless that breaks some BL rule or something.

 

[zagor11]

My Belly is still huge. No much pain though. I eat 2 small meals a day. I made an apt with a good doctor next Tuesday and will explain this problem IF he accepts me because a months ago he said he will be my doctor but I need to see him every week and he also said he would treat my depression but a lot of things happend in the last 30 days and I didn't go. But I have a plan though how to cinvince him. But at the same time this irresponsible doctor would give me as much opioids as I want and if I leave him he will get pissed off. However, health is more important than drugs.

I don't have veins for my H. There is a tiny one on my wrist but I would miss it. I am totally green when it comes IV and H. I will look into snorting it but even that is a bit of a challange becas I got deviated septum and my left nostril is totally blocked. Had a nose surgery which failed.....long story.......

How in the blue hell can you remember something when you was 2 years old? I was a young teen when my problem happened. But I will shoot you a msg. One thing is for sure, I cannot look at guts, not even on an xray let alone picture or video.

 

[Someone Who Is Me]

Hahahaha, dude, I remember snippets from 10-11 months. I was just learning to talk. I've probably fucked my brain up with drugs, but my memory has always been a strong point.

Health is more important than drugs, I agree. Props to you for realizing that now, before more damage is done and you have to deal with even more bullshit!!

I'd say your veins and deviated septum are protecting you from what is most definitely a mistake. The universe has your back, apparently. My life was a shit storm when I was snorting H, but the shit storm really upped its game the second I started IVing. It became a shit hurricane, if you will.