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Planning on running my first test cycle at 400-500mg per week.

Done a ton of research….lots of varying advice out there.
Need to try and fly under the radar with this as in can’t have the missus finding out…..very anti-drug attitude.

Will this be too noticeable as in gaining size, I know training & diet will play a huge part.
What about bloating etc….will that be overly noticeable ???

My life revolves around gym/diet etc so I can kinda of explain some of it away by saying I'm on a major push training wise
Post is a bit short on info but only have internet access at work so need to keep it short and sweet.
 
Bloating on that amount of test shouldn't be noticeable, but if you get it, blame it on creatine, even if she looks it up she will see it causes bloating...
What's your bf and current weight/height
 
Scotsman said:
Planning on running my first test cycle at 400-500mg per week.

Done a ton of research….lots of varying advice out there.
Need to try and fly under the radar with this as in can’t have the missus finding out…..very anti-drug attitude.

Will this be too noticeable as in gaining size, I know training & diet will play a huge part.
What about bloating etc….will that be overly noticeable ???

My life revolves around gym/diet etc so I can kinda of explain some of it away by saying I'm on a major push training wise
Post is a bit short on info but only have internet access at work so need to keep it short and sweet.
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Your not contemplating taking drugs... AAS are hormones..

Yep...... tell her your starting creatine..

Your size will increase if following correct diet and training methodology....

The most noticeable thing will be your manner.. You may appear overly confident, or even aggressive, this will be what you have to work on.. Especially with family, friends and work colleagues.. (remember its not their fault you've decided to try AAS)....
 
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Genetic Freak said:
The most noticeable thing will be your manner.. You may appear overly confident, or even aggressive, this will be what you have to work on.. Especially with family, friends and work colleagues.. (remember its not their fault you've decided to try AAS)....
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I don't think this will happen to the op on 400mg test, could happen... Although I rarely see this unless somebody is on 750+ mg or dbol.

I'm on 600mg and my gf says I'm exactly the same apart from being bigger.

Saying that I do have 1 friend who does seem to change when on cycle, gets a bit obnoxious
 
nolys said:
I don't think this will happen to the op on 400mg test, could happen... Although I rarely see this unless somebody is on 750+ mg or dbol.

I'm on 600mg and my gf says I'm exactly the same apart from being bigger.

Saying that I do have 1 friend who does seem to change when on cycle, gets a bit obnoxious
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Remember nolys I've been on gear 33 years, most of that time pharma grade not UG bunk.. I have considerable personal experience, not just of myself but many friends I have known over the years... I covered myself stating to the OP "you may".... As its his first cycle, IE: the first time his body has experiences supra-physiological doses of hormones, he may experience not only over confidence, but possibly aggression too.. I believe it is important he is aware this may happen so he can take appropriate steps to avoid upsetting those around him...
It may not happen, it doesn't to some people, but because there is a very real possibility, I considered in necessary he was aware of it...



A word of caution, don't contradict me in public again...!!
 
Thanks for all the feedback guys, greatly appreciated.
I’ll try and cover everything without using the quote function…..again at work so time is a factor.

I know I’m gonna get roasted for this but I don’t know my body fat. Bought a set of calipers and it’s telling me 15% body fat. Bit of back ground information, converted my garage into a gym, Got my bench, free weights, dip machine, pull up bar, running machine & cross trainer etc. Got a young family and run a business (missus works shifts) so spare time is limited. Whether it 5am work outs or late at night I get my work outs in regardless. Guys who come over to train with me have access at their gym with all the latest body fat machines/gadgets. Their telling me my body fat is well under 15% just by looking at me. Height wise I'm 6ft 3"

I’ve looked at buying those machines you stand on and hold the bar and it gives you all the body fat info but the feedback varies….a lot of people saying the stats you get back vary every time you use it. Any ideas on what to buy ??? I’m fortunate enough to have a good income so willing to spend.

I was 203 pounds, went onto a paleo based diet and dropped 14 pounds.
I have struggled to gain weight since, my diet is too clean and probably not taking in enough calories but when I start the test I’ll have everything in place to try and rectify that.

I’m probably the least aggressive person you will meet.
Infact I go out my way to be pleasant to others….what you give out you get back in my opinion.
I run my business this way as well, guys I employ are all highly skilled and I can’t afford to be overly aggressive as these guys are worth their weight in gold.
Pride myself on running my business as a team, everyone benefits from the profits etc so a change in personality would be noticed immediately.

Animal…. telling her ‘it’s my body I’ll do what I want’ isn’t an option.
Got children etc so got to be have a stable environment i.e. I tell her that and she know’s I’m on Test.
World War 3 mate

Any further feedback would be appreciated.
 
Genetic Freak said:
Remember nolys I've been on gear 33 years, most of that time pharma grade not UG bunk.. I have considerable personal experience, not just of myself but many friends I have known over the years... I covered myself stating to the OP "you may".... As its his first cycle, IE: the first time his body has experiences supra-physiological doses of hormones, he may experience not only over confidence, but possibly aggression too.. I believe it is important he is aware this may happen so he can take appropriate steps to avoid upsetting those around him...
It may not happen, it doesn't to some people, but because there is a very real possibility, I considered in necessary he was aware of it...



A word of caution, don't contradict me in public again...!!
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I suppose this makes sense I didnt notice you wrote may... Also I notice that it tends to happen to people who are already that way inclined. More of an exaggeration of one's personality rather than causing it directly .

In your opinion, is it more to do with the higher test levels or is it a psychological thing whereas they realise they are on gear , seeing their growth, thinking they are bigger than everybody, causing people to change?
 
Scotsman said:
Thanks for all the feedback guys, greatly appreciated.
I’ll try and cover everything without using the quote function…..again at work so time is a factor.

I know I’m gonna get roasted for this but I don’t know my body fat. Bought a set of calipers and it’s telling me 15% body fat. Bit of back ground information, converted my garage into a gym, Got my bench, free weights, dip machine, pull up bar, running machine & cross trainer etc. Got a young family and run a business (missus works shifts) so spare time is limited. Whether it 5am work outs or late at night I get my work outs in regardless. Guys who come over to train with me have access at their gym with all the latest body fat machines/gadgets. Their telling me my body fat is well under 15% just by looking at me. Height wise I'm 6ft 3"

I’ve looked at buying those machines you stand on and hold the bar and it gives you all the body fat info but the feedback varies….a lot of people saying the stats you get back vary every time you use it. Any ideas on what to buy ??? I’m fortunate enough to have a good income so willing to spend.

I was 203 pounds, went onto a paleo based diet and dropped 14 pounds.
I have struggled to gain weight since, my diet is too clean and probably not taking in enough calories but when I start the test I’ll have everything in place to try and rectify that.

I’m probably the least aggressive person you will meet.
Infact I go out my way to be pleasant to others….what you give out you get back in my opinion.
I run my business this way as well, guys I employ are all highly skilled and I can’t afford to be overly aggressive as these guys are worth their weight in gold.
Pride myself on running my business as a team, everyone benefits from the profits etc so a change in personality would be noticed immediately.

Animal…. telling her ‘it’s my body I’ll do what I want’ isn’t an option.
Got children etc so got to be have a stable environment i.e. I tell her that and she know’s I’m on Test.
World War 3 mate

Any further feedback would be appreciated.
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Not terribly scientific, but it'll give you a general idea.


body-fat-percentage-men.jpg
 
that's a good gauge though I have seen some dues at 12% look like the guy at 7. I am sort of like that, at 9% I look great @ 6 I look peeled to the bone. Depends on your how you carry your fat, as well, some people have more sub q, or more intra muscular fat ect ect.
 
Also water manipulation is key. I've been sitting at low teens but hold water. Some days my diet is perfect with sodium intake and what not and look great. Others I look like I have a couple % more bf.
 
Yeah water is the real wild factor and has won and lost competitions, I cary water on purpose the intar cellular water increases the bodys ability to lift by increases the muscles ability to contract. Why power lifters and strong men a re big dudes.
 
Again thanks for the feedback.
Based on those bodyfat pics I’m def between 12-15%

Few more questions before I start this cycle.
Probably best to be up front and honest as a health precaution.
Spent a few years caning stimulant based substances and as a result can be prone to what feels like high blood pressure when I take stim based gym supplements.
I’ve got a machine for checking blood pressure when I start my cycle.
Got a bit of an addictive personality….but I’m now channelling that into something good i.e my diet/the gym.

Will the test cycle push my blood pressure ??
I’ve got Hawthorne Berry tablets here as a back up.
Again any other substances that would help ??

I know I’m gonna get ‘read the fucking sticky’ responses here but just looking for advice from guys with years of tried and tested knowledge.
Also sex drive wise, I would imagine during cycle my sex drive will increase.
Does this drop off during PCT ??

Got a demanding wife in that department so don’t want any failures down below.
 
Yes, supraphysiological doses of tesr will increase your blood pressure.
You can donate blood to help fix that.
Your sex drive will increase significantly during the cycle. You may lose all sex drive for a few days during pct. After pct it should go back to normal, unless you don't recover for some reason.
 
Yeah you may see a rise in BP though proper diet, and training may drop it, so you may just stay normal, but more then likely you will go up. There are a few products that are good fro BP I happen to like one called BP stabil by molecular nutrition. look into it.

Sex drive yes PCT it will drop off, invest in some Viagra, or get good with your hands chief lol I know how that goes my girl is demanding as well, thank god I blast and Cruise lol. But if your pct is done correctly and dosed properly the drop off wont be a train wreck just a traffic jam.

Last but not least read the sticky lol just a ton of good info in there bro. And keep asking the questions, and post up every thing when your idea is fully finalized.

There are things that can help with all of this you just have to dig a bout and ask questions as things go.

Give us your stats after you have done the measurements for the bodyfat %
Training experience
weight

And lay out what your cycle will be. We can pin a few more things down, and help you sort ot the kinks when and if they come up.
 
Cheers flykick, take a Testosterone booster powder T+ just now and that really improves my sex drive.
Sometimes home from work twice a day chasing my missus around the house.
Test cycle must turn you into an absolute sex fiend.

Neo I had a look at that BP Stabil.
90 capsules for £32…..how many caps you taking a day during cycle ???

Cracking feedback guys, thanks a lot.
I’ve got everything in place for my cycle and it's just a case of when to start.
Must admit, just some pre-cycle nerves……not sure what to expect.

Lasted 3 days on a lose dose T-Bol cycle and had to abandon it due to banging headaches.
I put that down to blood pressure issues so def be buying the BP Stabil.
Possibly start in the next few weeks but I’ll provide some more stats/info just incase it needs tweaked.
 
Starting your first cycle can be very exciting and worrying, but you're just injecting something your balls already produce.
FAR safer than the opiates, benzos and RCs you often take ;)
 
I only take 1 daily man, shit is pricy but my diet is really tight, and my multi vit is solid. My bp is on the high side of normal but was like that since i was in my teens, I mean there are a lot of homeopathic hearbs that are supposed to be good, for BP.
 
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