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First Hand: Cocaine shortly after MDMA

Imathroaway

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An opportunity came up for me to have an all afternoon/night of doing whatever I felt like, and I had a couple of 120 mg of MDMA (brown/clear small rocks - sufficiently crushed into powder and put into a capsule - UNTESTED but first-hand account from friend confirmed it to be at least safe) that I planned on taking. I also had about 1.8 grams of decent (as far as I can tell) quality cocaine. I know myself well enough to predict that once I was coming down from the roll I was likely going to want to keep the party going and would end up doing the coke. I read and researched quite a bit. My goals were harm reduction, with a secondary interest in not wasting money, and finally maximizing the experience.

A friend and I took the MDMA on mostly empty stomachs (no food, weed, booze, etc) around 2 PM, with the first sensations of rolling coming on about 30 minutes later. We are both regular weed smokers, but resisted the urge to smoke for another hour to feel the full effects of the MDMA without mixing anything else in. We both were very talkative, agreed we felt excellent, chain smoked cigarettes and eventually had a few bowls of good weed. About 2.5 hours after first taking the pills, we both felt that the roll was over. The warm feeling had left us, and a slightly crummy comedown feeling was creeping in.

Over the next hour, we each had 3 or 4 jack and cokes and smoked some more, discussing the warmth and euphoria we felt and how it had left us. We also each took 200 mg of 5HTP. At this point (about 4 hours after taking the MDMA) we decided to give the coke a try and see how we felt. The coke seemed to work as it usually does. We continued to do a couple lines an hour for the next five or six hours while having drinks and chain smoking and watching different porno and surfing the web.

Around 6 AM it was time to call it quits. Winding down with some more weed and a shower, I fell asleep around 8 AM. While lying in bed, I did have a couple of pretty strange feelings, but I attributed it to being up all night and having taken in quite a few substances. It wasn't terrible and I woke up the next day around noon (four hours of sleep). I was irritable and tired, but otherwise felt pretty good.

To summarize, I did close to a gram of cocaine over the course of about 8 hours on the same day that I took 120 mg of MDMA, with about 4 hours of time in between taking the MDMA and starting to do the coke. From the research I did (forums, experiences, and educating myself on the neurochemistry and pharmacology as best as i could) it sounds like taking the two close together may have been bad for me. However, I did not have a seizure, I did not feel any negative side effects, and I did not die. It was actually a pretty enjoyable night.

Hopefully this helps someone else in their own research. Feel free to ask me anything at all, I'll do my best to provide specific information. The best thing I did in my entire research process was checking out the slideshow from dancesafe giving a run down on how MDMA works. The link is included below, since it is a great starting point.

This is only my second post, hopefully I haven't broken any rules! =D

https://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow/
 
only a 2 hour roll or what? Perhaps good to get a testkit, that is really really short for MDMA, I've been rolling for more than 10 years and never had a roll last only 2 hours. 3 hours to 3.5 hours, yes sometimes, but never only 2
 
I agree, I was surprised at the short duration. I previously (a different day, about 2 months ago) took about 100 mg of the same "MDMA" and had a similarly short experience. But, I also got impatient that night and did a line of coke about 45 minutes after taking the MDMA because I wasn't feeling it enough. I figured that the coke killed my roll, which is why I limited my intake of anything else other than the MDMA one this more recent occasion.
Every other time i've rolled, I've had x tablets. Those highs were euphoric and melty, but also very energetic. This roll seemed to be more of a true (pure) MDMA high, without the speediness, but it didn't last as long as I expected.
I am pretty confident on my timeline (I was calling my buddy "the time keeper" since he wears a digital watch and is a little obsessed with his "T- Minus" tracking when taking ANY pills to guage how long any particular drug affects him.
 
I agree, I was surprised at the short duration. I previously (a different day, about 2 months ago) took about 100 mg of the same "MDMA" and had a similarly short experience. But, I also got impatient that night and did a line of coke about 45 minutes after taking the MDMA because I wasn't feeling it enough. I figured that the coke killed my roll, which is why I limited my intake of anything else other than the MDMA one this more recent occasion.
Every other time i've rolled, I've had x tablets. Those highs were euphoric and melty, but also very energetic. This roll seemed to be more of a true (pure) MDMA high, without the speediness, but it didn't last as long as I expected.
I am pretty confident on my timeline (I was calling my buddy "the time keeper" since he wears a digital watch and is a little obsessed with his "T- Minus" tracking when taking ANY pills to guage how long any particular drug affects him.
Yes, coke can dull a roll indeed but if you didn't take any during your last roll it isn't the issue here. Like said, first and foremost get a testkit (or here), I am fairly certain you are going to be surprised by the results. Keep in mind that it's not because a certain drug 'feels' safe that it actually is. If you say your goal is harm reduction, there is no way around testing, it has to be done, there are far too many dangerous chemicals sold as MDMA on the market today to rely on what your friends or your dealer tell you. Your friend sounds like a pretty sensible dude by the way, I look at my clock whenever I take any drug as well, to know how long it takes to kick in, how long I should wait in case I want to redose but also to remember I just took some drugs, forgot that once and ended up in a pretty fucked up situation because of it =D if you haven't read it already, here is some basic info on MDMA use
 
Thanks BB, that is an excellent point that just because it felt similar to a roll, and didn't kill any of us, that does not mean it didn't do any harm. I've ordered a test kit. It had previously seemed frivolous to me, since any drugs I usually get are through a very old friend that has usually sampled those drugs before they're being sold to me, and so I believe them to be "safe". But there isn't an "old friend" in the world that can tell you exactly what chemicals you are about to put into your body without proper testing.
 
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