ShroomingBalls
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Hi!
Super long post, but I've bolded the key bits. If you can't be arsed to read any of it, it'd be good to know if you think any long term damage can come from: overheating, mdma usage in general.
In the past couple of weeks or so I've been having episodes of palpitations, very fast heart rate, and chest tightness/pain. A couple of the episodes have been brought on by smoking weed, and they kind of begin with a weird, almost gurny jaw feeling and neck prickling. They may well be anxiety related, I have been under stress recently, and they certainly freak me out a bit, but I'm not sure if I can rule a more physiological origin out. Now, I've had palpitations before (especially when taking modafinil+coffee+nicotine earlier this year), and I'm getting checked out for heart arrhythmias of a more general cause. I have quite a lot of theoretical physiology knowledge, but I wanted to get some opinions from people with more anecdotal experience, especially because doctors in general are so clueless about drugs.
I started using MDMA early this year, and have used about 10 times in total (crystal). No dose has been tested, but they come from quite reliable sources and I've always used with very experienced friends who I feel would recognize drugs of a different character.
In about 3.5 weeks in June, I took MDMA 7 times (a couple of which involved psychedelics too - shrooms and 4-HO-MiPT). Apart from one occasion (amicably spiked towards the end of a trip), I pre-loaded extensively - high dose time released vitamin C, vitamin E, ALA, CoQ-10, grapeseed extract, green tea extract. This preloading helped hugely, and when I did it best I felt incredible the next day, an afterglow rather than a comedown. There were a couple of days when I used back to back, and after the final party (MD, MD+shrooms) I did have progressively worse headrushes on standing up (worst one involving bad vision loss, falling, arms shaking uncontrollably).
I think that they were probably just an effect of a weekend of eating and drinking little. I did also have a couple of days of brain zaps after the final party, but I took 5htp, ate bananas, and they stopped after a while. It seems like they're just a normal side effect of heavy MDMA usage, SSRI withdrawal syndrome type thing. After this, I felt pretty fucking good (especially in the afterglow of the shroom trip), but maybe a little bit physically rocky. I had the first episode of racing pulse a couple of weeks afterwards.
Apart from the general usage, there are a couple of instances that specifically I'd like to know if I could see any consequences from:
1. (in April) I stupidly preloaded with 500mg L-tyrosine (dopamine precursor) and 100mg 5HTP, before dropping about 0.2, perhaps a little more. It was also the night after I finished 36 hours awake (had had 7 hours sleep after this), and I probably still had a little bit of modafinil in my system from the previous day, but that said I am no stranger to sleep deprivation, and can normally power through. I came up really hard, and threw up. After that I felt suddenly exhausted, like I had to sit down or I would pass out - like, I sat on the floor for a bit outside the toilet while my friends went in. Right before I did sit down properly, my pulse was below 60. After 10 minutes of sitting with a friend I was fine, and danced for several hours (though the experience was pretty blunted, I now realise typically for 5htp preload).The comedown was terrible, worst I've experienced (think this was probably the L-tyrosine). Could this episode have been anything serious?
2. The last time I did MD in June was with shrooms. 2g of shrooms (lemontek) with a biggish bomb (bit more than 0.2) that dissolved in my mouth and hit me like a train. Overall the trip was great, but at a certain point I realised willpower was meaningless (lol), and charged around doing shit manically for maybe 90 minutes. I don't remember this well, but it ended with me either overheating from the exertion or being severely tripped out - my brother kept asking me if I was OK (he was tripping too, so hard to tell how bad I looked by this point). I remember gasping for breath and feeling like I was going to pass out. I dived into a cold shower, and chilled the fuck out for a bit, and then felt ok (ok enough to top up a few hours later). Is it possible that I overheated? If so, could it have done me any permanent damage?
Sorry for the HUGE post, but I thought I'd include all the details. Like I said, if anyone has anecdotal experience that relates to this, and could give me any insight as to whether or not I might have done myself any permanent damage, I'd be super grateful.
Cheers guys
Super long post, but I've bolded the key bits. If you can't be arsed to read any of it, it'd be good to know if you think any long term damage can come from: overheating, mdma usage in general.
In the past couple of weeks or so I've been having episodes of palpitations, very fast heart rate, and chest tightness/pain. A couple of the episodes have been brought on by smoking weed, and they kind of begin with a weird, almost gurny jaw feeling and neck prickling. They may well be anxiety related, I have been under stress recently, and they certainly freak me out a bit, but I'm not sure if I can rule a more physiological origin out. Now, I've had palpitations before (especially when taking modafinil+coffee+nicotine earlier this year), and I'm getting checked out for heart arrhythmias of a more general cause. I have quite a lot of theoretical physiology knowledge, but I wanted to get some opinions from people with more anecdotal experience, especially because doctors in general are so clueless about drugs.
I started using MDMA early this year, and have used about 10 times in total (crystal). No dose has been tested, but they come from quite reliable sources and I've always used with very experienced friends who I feel would recognize drugs of a different character.
In about 3.5 weeks in June, I took MDMA 7 times (a couple of which involved psychedelics too - shrooms and 4-HO-MiPT). Apart from one occasion (amicably spiked towards the end of a trip), I pre-loaded extensively - high dose time released vitamin C, vitamin E, ALA, CoQ-10, grapeseed extract, green tea extract. This preloading helped hugely, and when I did it best I felt incredible the next day, an afterglow rather than a comedown. There were a couple of days when I used back to back, and after the final party (MD, MD+shrooms) I did have progressively worse headrushes on standing up (worst one involving bad vision loss, falling, arms shaking uncontrollably).
I think that they were probably just an effect of a weekend of eating and drinking little. I did also have a couple of days of brain zaps after the final party, but I took 5htp, ate bananas, and they stopped after a while. It seems like they're just a normal side effect of heavy MDMA usage, SSRI withdrawal syndrome type thing. After this, I felt pretty fucking good (especially in the afterglow of the shroom trip), but maybe a little bit physically rocky. I had the first episode of racing pulse a couple of weeks afterwards.
Apart from the general usage, there are a couple of instances that specifically I'd like to know if I could see any consequences from:
1. (in April) I stupidly preloaded with 500mg L-tyrosine (dopamine precursor) and 100mg 5HTP, before dropping about 0.2, perhaps a little more. It was also the night after I finished 36 hours awake (had had 7 hours sleep after this), and I probably still had a little bit of modafinil in my system from the previous day, but that said I am no stranger to sleep deprivation, and can normally power through. I came up really hard, and threw up. After that I felt suddenly exhausted, like I had to sit down or I would pass out - like, I sat on the floor for a bit outside the toilet while my friends went in. Right before I did sit down properly, my pulse was below 60. After 10 minutes of sitting with a friend I was fine, and danced for several hours (though the experience was pretty blunted, I now realise typically for 5htp preload).The comedown was terrible, worst I've experienced (think this was probably the L-tyrosine). Could this episode have been anything serious?
2. The last time I did MD in June was with shrooms. 2g of shrooms (lemontek) with a biggish bomb (bit more than 0.2) that dissolved in my mouth and hit me like a train. Overall the trip was great, but at a certain point I realised willpower was meaningless (lol), and charged around doing shit manically for maybe 90 minutes. I don't remember this well, but it ended with me either overheating from the exertion or being severely tripped out - my brother kept asking me if I was OK (he was tripping too, so hard to tell how bad I looked by this point). I remember gasping for breath and feeling like I was going to pass out. I dived into a cold shower, and chilled the fuck out for a bit, and then felt ok (ok enough to top up a few hours later). Is it possible that I overheated? If so, could it have done me any permanent damage?
Sorry for the HUGE post, but I thought I'd include all the details. Like I said, if anyone has anecdotal experience that relates to this, and could give me any insight as to whether or not I might have done myself any permanent damage, I'd be super grateful.
Cheers guys
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