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Dissociatives and their complete annihalation of the uh, what was it again? Uh? Memory? Yeah, that was it.

Aeon Psyche

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Does anyone feel like me that with daily use of dissociatives your memory crumbles to pieces? I find this quite annoying and wonder if there was any way to counteract this symptom. I've thought of using psychedelics along with them but it seems that i have better results if I take these in periods between eachother rather than together. I wonder if certain nootropics like amantadine could be usefull in this case. Your thoughts?
 
Well every drug used daily cause memory loss. I think that the only way to improve memory is to exercise it with problems and activities, if someone knows a drug that improve memory tell me its name i'm gonna buy kilos of it ahahah
 
well, as far as i've heard medicine for people with dementia cause effects to increase memory, that's why i mentioned amantadine for one, I first became interested in it as it also would increase the lucidity of dreams.
 
Lol yeah, ive done some ket binges where it just is a long blackout.
But mostly the first days since my tolerance is not that bad.
I try to only do ket around once per 1-2months.
But when i do it i usually binge it, maybe 3-5grams spread out over a week or so.
I usually dont take it more then 2days in a row.
So i might take it for 2days and then dont for 2.
Then finish of with one last night a few days later.

That way the tolerance doesnt go up much and I limit the delusional psychotic mind state that a long K binge usually gives me.

Its weird cause if i dont go overboard i get an almost nootropic effect, esp a few days afterwards.
But if i go for 3 or more days i usually end up in some kind of weird loop.
Ive also gotten very stupid and put myself in unneccesary riscs while being holed out of my mind.
 
If you get delusional psychotic mind states maybe you should use in a more, what for you could be a more convenient way of use. I get exhillerated at the thought of realising that I am, who I was. And still am, incognito. I have sometimes that I can't shake away all the spiritual beings from what you could vaguely translate as the higest of heavens trying to have sex or conversation with me even though they only exist out pure intelligence and the electrons that connect to our material world. I've honestly lost count of how many girlfriends i have in heaven and can't even remember all their names even if I made a list. on drugs our telepathy is easy. Yet the last ten or so times i took shrooms i found their company rather a burden. I just wanted some privacy to watch porn and it was difficult to tell them all, i'd rather be alone for the moment. They may have no physical body but the experience still can be quite enjoyable. I let them know where the limit is but they can however use their superior intelligence to move my body in any way they wish. It may sound delusional to you but wtf do I care. I understand and communicating what i do know is hard for an experienced writer like me without a digital memory of the dictionaries I've read for fun when my best medicines like ketamine are trashing my memory.
 
Absolutely, I used MXE often (like 2-3 times a week), which caused word recall issues sometimes, but then I used 3-MeO-PCP most days for like a year and a half, with one break. Most of the reason I stopped, well, part of it, besides it turning weird and sketchy, was because I felt out of control of myself due to inability to recall things effectively. It freaked me out and now I hardly ever use dissociatives. I think as more people abuse more of them, we are discovering they're certainly not benign. I strongly recommend against daily disso use. I think as occasional experiences they can be amazing and worthwhile, but they're really bad for daily use.

For real, I've seen people go seriously off the deep end from dissos, and I keep seeing it, too. Please think twice before abusing dissociatives. It is my belief that although insight is certainly possible, with abuse, it turns into heavy delusions and the user doesn't seem to have any idea they're nutty as a bag full of trail mix.
 
Lucky that I am smart enough to comprehend the effects and would never have any delusion since I tried 500mg of 4-meo-pcp trying to find a hole that couldn't be accomplished. I use dissos as medicine, but others would call it abuse for sure. And why is it that 4-meo-pce or 4-ho-pce aren't around? Is it not possible to create these molecules? I never had chemistry at school so I only know from what I read around these types of sites...
 
I would imagine it's possible. I haven't seen 4-MeO-PCP available in a long time, I think the high dosage led to people not synthing them when the 3-MeO and 3-HO versions are so potent. Personally I never tried 4-MeO-PCP but have heard good things about it and would like to try it.
 
Yeah, daily use of dissos is a recipe for a disaster... I would try to keep it in 1-2 times per week maximum and even that is too much, aand only sustainable for a short period

Edit: I had some memantine ordered but it never arrived so I can´t comment on that. Seems promising for a experimental season but I dont thing it would be healthy to take it for life
 
Found 3cups of tea that i made during a ket binge.
None were touched at all.
Guess i got caught in a loop where i forgot i made a cup so i went and made another and another lol.
 
Even if you found a way to combat the memory issue, you will be pissing out blood if you keep up the daily ketamine use. Pardon my French.
 
Using dissociatives hinders my ability to live outside the moment in any sense, thinking of things gets harder too. I kind of enjoy it til I need to think or remember.
 
I use dissociatives everyday whenever I'm able too. Never pissed blood. I usually buy 100gr and use it untill it's all gone. It's my best medicine for my PTSD.
 
I use dissociatives everyday whenever I'm able too. Never pissed blood. I usually buy 100gr and use it untill it's all gone. It's my best medicine for my PTSD.


Which drugs specifically?
Its a indisputable fact that all NMDA dissociatives damage your kidney to some extent with frequent use.
 
all of the nice ones : p will be hooked on 3-meo-pce and mxp for the time being...
 
Which drugs specifically?
Its a indisputable fact that all NMDA dissociatives damage your kidney to some extent with frequent use.

I don't think it's related to NMDA antagonism, but specifically to arylcyclohexylamines (which is almost all of them, but not the -phenidines, or DXM, or nitrous).
 
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