Stimulants Coffee Vs Speed/amphetamine?

[JohnBoy2000]

Naturally one is more potent and potentially destructive.

But at the moment it's a very real consideration for me compare these two;

Reason being over the past few months I've discontinued ALL drugs, everything, even paracetamol.
No prescription drug, no sleep aids, no anti-histamines.

My nervous system at the moment is all me.

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What I attribute to neuro-development and neural morphology/genesis, but I'm in a transition phase of kind of, re-establishing "autonomous" functionality, by way of cognitive intervention.

Cognition implicates the "upstream" neural factors, where as drugs are all "downstream" signalling.

Point being - during this transition, I need just a little something to get by.
To be taken exclusively as required, and I don't forecast it being long term.

Just a few weeks hopefully.

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It needs to be some kind of stimulant as it's overcompensating for lack of neural firing.

Coffee at the moment, takes the edge off.

But I tried some methamphetamine a month ago and it is chicken soup for my soul.
It puts me in such a good place and reminds me I'm human.

Maybe one dose of this a week?
But of course I hate the side effects so I figured I knock that down a gear to just regular amphetamine.

 

[JohnBoy2000]

My question is, to those using amphetamine regularly.

Would infrequent use be considered FAR more destructive that 2 to 3 cups of strong coffee a day?

What dose would you recommend of amphetamine for my purposes? I'm guessing about 20 mg.

Or would you just say,

"lolwut? Amphetamine is not a step in the right direction. Stick with your Nescafe if long term drug addiction and reduction in quality of health are low on your list of priorities".

 

[plumbus-nine]

My question is, to those using amphetamine regularly.

Would infrequent use be considered FAR more destructive that 2 to 3 cups of strong coffee a day?

Actually, imo, no. As long as you keep your dosage low, it won't hurt you much. Remember, stimulants are routinely used in people with attention deficit / hyperactivity and for years. I'm not so sure whether we should do this to kids but in adults you find both - papers which say therapeutic use doesn't do no damage and papers which tell the opposite. I'd say from therapeutic dosage (5-20mg maybe?) stuff will remain in that range which is repaired quickly. I also never had the urge to compulsively re-dose amphetamine as shorter acting stims like methylphenidate do.

I'd start with 5mg d- or 10mg rac-Amphetamine, maybe even half of that.

 

[JohnBoy2000]

Actually, imo, no. As long as you keep your dosage low, it won't hurt you much. Remember, stimulants are routinely used in people with attention deficit / hyperactivity and for years. I'm not so sure whether we should do this to kids but in adults you find both - papers which say therapeutic use doesn't do no damage and papers which tell the opposite. I'd say from therapeutic dosage (5-20mg maybe?) stuff will remain in that range which is repaired quickly. I also never had the urge to compulsively re-dose amphetamine as shorter acting stims like methylphenidate do.

I'd start with 5mg d- or 10mg rac-Amphetamine, maybe even half of that.

You experienced a compulsion to re-dose when using methylphenidate?

Because I had tried that and specifically for that reason (short half life), decided it was unsuitable, thus tried methamphetamine;

Which waaay over did it.

So now I'm thinking regular amphet. should be a suitable middle ground.

 

[plumbus-nine]

Yeah, you're right about that. Specially suited might be lisdexamphetamine (Vyvanse) as a prodrug to amphetamine. Strangely in me it doesn't provide much of retardation, I seem to metabolize all at one but most people do get a slight retard effect. Meth indeed just is too much, I liked the first 6-8 hours and then it began to become uncomfortable on most days, also had a hefty depressive hangover which other (<12h) stims didn't provide.

 

[justme0]

if you wanting some relief from life then doing it once jn awhile shouldn't be too bad...but remember the addiction will be there. if you want a jolt stronger than coffee...I recommend some C4 or MuscleTech preworkout from Walmart. done some research and I swear it has DMAA. its not psychotic addictive energy but omg I love my MT. great because its more kick than 2x 5hr st once and last a good 10 hours

 

[TheFrogEffect]

I always advise to avoid meth for anyone. Try out some other amphetamines and leave meth well alone. While they're all potentially addictive, meth is a whole other beast and it I really easy to get stuck using it well beyond what you intended.

Try Adderall or something else. I found that to be very effective for my ADHD without all the negative repercussions of meth use. Yes, meth keeps me level and focused but even just a slight bit more than a small dose and it sends me off the rails. Given the inconsistency of purity, consistently getting a small dose is ridiculously difficult even when I weigh them out. And I love the feeling of going off the rails so I abuse the fuck out of it.

I never did abuse Adderall. It just kept my head in the game so I could function properly.