Cases where mixing suboxone and benzos caused respiratory failure

[ThomasAnderson]

I've heard of cases where mixing suboxone and benzos causes repiratory failure leading to death.

Obviously it would depend on dosage, but how long do you think these people should have waited after their last Suboxone dose to take their benzos? Do you think it's because of the long half life of Suboxone?

Also, why do some doctors feel it's safe to prescribe this deadly mix?

 

[deos68]

I've heard of cases where mixing suboxone and benzos causes repiratory failure leading to death.

Obviously it would depend on dosage, but how long do you think these people should have waited after their last Suboxone dose to take their benzos? Do you think it's because of the long half life of Suboxone?

Also, why do some doctors feel it's safe to prescribe this deadly mix?

IMO i don't think it's due to the time frame although yes that can contribute to respiratory issues
i think t's because people don't dose right and don't have a clue to their own tolerance to either one

i'm not saying go out and mix them because, that is a dangerous combo.
if the dose is done right if you really needed to mix them, small amounts of both wouldn't end up respiratory issues

some docs are not benzo educated and some are its just the way it is
but its the end user that should do proper research and be held accountable for taking the meds

for example i can get a prescription for viagra but that doesnt mean its safe if i pop them like candy

 

[ThomasAnderson]

So you think its because people were probably taking too much of either or both?

 

[deos68]

So you think its because people were probably taking too much of either or both?

in a nut shell yes
granted there is some meds that should never be mixed right off the bat but thats a different topic

 

[Phil.McKeer]

IMHO if a combination of bupe and benzos lead to respiratory failure, it's because the user was somewhat naive to one or both and took too WAY much.

As a partial agonist modulator, bupe is VERY resistant to respiratory failure. In fact, I'm not certain if anyone has ever overdosed and died by CNS depression with bupe alone but I may be wrong. Same goes with all benzos, but again my information may be incorrect. I myself have never heard of an overdose by mechanism of CNS depression from a benzo overdose.

It would take a large dose of both, in a user naive to either or both, to kill by CNS depression IMHO.

 

[patheboss420]

IM guessing bupe in a a very opiate naive person has caused res depression unfortunatley it is very strong for naive opiate individuals. just my opinion

 

[patheboss420]

also has a very long half life but on the contray has naloxone mixing in suboxone so maybe just generic bupe alone cause res dep.

 

[patheboss420]

abusing benzos is ussually how mixuares end up fatal, taking recomended doses without abusing the benzo is very unlikly to cause death, even if the user is tolerant to an opiate while mixing the recomended dose. now anybody taking a benzo without a script has no recomended dose so therefore that is considered abusing the medication because a certified medical professianl has not decided that this person needs such a strong super addictive med. like a benzo to cope with anxiiety seizures ect.. just my opinion

 

[ThomasAnderson]

Yea, most of the cases of benzo ODs that I've heard of are during opiate WDs. My guess is the opiate addict keeps popping, trying to scratch that opiate itch with something else, that will never be satisfied with a benzo. Just a guess.