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Stimulants Are amphetamines/ritalin for ADHD neurotoxic?

Short answer yes, a long more thorough answer says that all depends on how well you're taking care of yourself.
PM me if you want details, I don't really feel like getting in to it more on the forums.
 
Meth gets a bad rap. It's not that bad, they make a pharmaceutical version of it. Most of the street stuff isn't manufactured in the cleanest conditions and usually isn't made from the greatest precursors. The media loves to hate on meth more than just about any other substance. I'm not really into meth at all, but I find it's a cleaner, calmer version of amphetamine. The methyl group mainly increases intensity and duration. I find it to work better than amphetamine for actual ADD.

Have you ever taken meth?
Of course it gets a bad rap.

You've never felt like that before, have you?
 
Its not that different than amphetamine. I have taken it but never been addicted to it. It just seems like a cleaner version of dex to me. I'm sure dosoxyn works better than adderall. I'm not saying it's awesome but I doubt its any more neurotoxic than regular amphetamine if abused.
 
I emailed an adhd specialist who replies to mails and asked him if stimulants are neurotoxic and he said that this is only the case when you snort it and abuse it.
I am confused by this. I mean this doctor has tons of videos of adhd and adhd drugs on youtube. Is he right or is he simply making the drugs appear safer than they are?

@ snazzy

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"The dose makes the posion"... it's all dose related. Is 5mg of amphetamine going to cause damage? unlikely. 50mg? maybe. 500mg? quite likely.
 
Do you mean 50mg per day? I think this is still in the therapeutic range.
 
Glab, don't be such a hypochondriac. All medications have risks. Don't get me wrong, there are some huge risks with medications. I honestly wouldn't recommend any of them. If it's that big of a concern to you, you should probably look into alternative ways to deal with your issues besides meds. I've tried lots, and I'm cutting them out and going to utilize alternative means of coping. Amphetamines are pretty safe but they won't work forever. Adhd sucks but stims only help you so much for so long.

Best wishes
 
Chances are you don't have adhd, man. Having naturally low-levels of dopamine is a much rarer condition than the makers of adderall and concerta would like you to believe. Plus many stim-abusers like to use the disease to facilitate there addiction and make it seem more innocuous.

And even if you did have attention defecits to the magnitude of disease, you must understand this - Medicine is an inexact science, a "blunt instrument". Do you really think that a chemical-mimic of dopamine is what you need for medical treatment? How much time have you spent meditating? This seems like a concentration technique of value without risk.
 
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Methylphenidate is not neurotoxic and some studies show that it may be neuroprotective. http://www.researchgate.net/publica...urotoxic_but_neuroprotective_effects_in_vitro

Amphetamines (Adderall, Dexedrine, Vyvanse) damage the dopaminergic pathways in the brain of all animal species tested so far and there is some evidence from studies on Primates that this occurs at doses used in the treatment of ADHD and Narcolepsy. We don't know if this occurs in humans, though it has been speculated by some researchers that amphetamine psychosis may be a sign of amphetamine induced brain damage in humans.

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/315/1/91.full

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/
 
If you believe Ritalin is non-neurotoxic, I have ocean-side property for-sale in kansas.
 
Studies in animals and humans show that it is non-neurotoxic. What makes you think it is?
 
If amphetamines are bad then what about dopamin agonists? Do they cause the same?
 
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