So .. there is so much shit out there, RCs shops, online pharmacies. Isn't there anything better?
Personally, GBL + 4F-MPH seems to be the most pleasant combo (100% legal). You can come down from the stimulant with GHB and maybe a little clonazolam without issues. I mean, fuck anxiety on 4F-MPH the first 10 hours in, its nothing. But after, every fart might set you off when not eating a fist full of Klonopins. And yeah, fucking blood pressure deranges accordingly only then.
Really what's the deal with the combo?
GHB works mainly against vasoconstriction and high blood pressure in a very very self-regulating manner, over a large array of mechanisms. Poppers or beta-blockers don't at all, those are "dumb" drugs. You will pop a vessel and deprive your organs of oxygen with that shit. Alcohol has a similar regulating effect to GHB, but it turns on you and probably will cause hypertension eventually after 8-12 hours. So the fuck you keep drinking shitloads of alcohol until the meth clears finally and then you are fucked anyway. I have no fucking idea if the alcohol really helps, or just numbs. But the GHB does fucking help, you can feel it all over your body when blood rushes back to your organs, skin, brain, etc. And it also all measures well with the BP meter, and you can just take more GHB virtually indefinitely without toxic effects.
The GABA-B part of GHB, as you feel it from 150mg baclofen, is not at all that interesting to stimulant use. The effect on the vascular system is miniscule. The GHB-receptor part isn't that great either, considering you already got the flood from the meth/cocaine/whatever - no one needs additional stimulation. Benzos + stimulant = retarded, everyone realizes. And opioids + sitmulants? Fuck that. Taking all the shit at once = death, or something.
So really is it just so, that GHB is the best drug to counteract physical side-effects and anxiety when coming down?
Isn't there any other shit other than GHB that's even better? Maybe something, just benzo-ish and physical at most - not psychotropic.
And yeah, snort some 4g racemic street amphetamine on Friday to Saturday, you will probably get close to death without GHB. 4F-MPH not so, physical effects are less extreme. Still. Its all ridiculous how much you can tolerate with GHB along - without feeling much impaired and better than ever (really better). I ate like 10 propanolol to get my blood pressure back on track as much as just 3ml GBL would have done. And I could fucking feel that it just didn't do the job well. Blood supply was still cut off as shit, just not in the main vessels. GHB is like a full restoration.
Its just so weird. Here we have the entire stock of modern medicine, and what medically cures the huge dilemma of one class of party drugs, is just pumping yourself full of yet another party drug? Seriously, there must be something better.
Personally, GBL + 4F-MPH seems to be the most pleasant combo (100% legal). You can come down from the stimulant with GHB and maybe a little clonazolam without issues. I mean, fuck anxiety on 4F-MPH the first 10 hours in, its nothing. But after, every fart might set you off when not eating a fist full of Klonopins. And yeah, fucking blood pressure deranges accordingly only then.
Really what's the deal with the combo?
GHB works mainly against vasoconstriction and high blood pressure in a very very self-regulating manner, over a large array of mechanisms. Poppers or beta-blockers don't at all, those are "dumb" drugs. You will pop a vessel and deprive your organs of oxygen with that shit. Alcohol has a similar regulating effect to GHB, but it turns on you and probably will cause hypertension eventually after 8-12 hours. So the fuck you keep drinking shitloads of alcohol until the meth clears finally and then you are fucked anyway. I have no fucking idea if the alcohol really helps, or just numbs. But the GHB does fucking help, you can feel it all over your body when blood rushes back to your organs, skin, brain, etc. And it also all measures well with the BP meter, and you can just take more GHB virtually indefinitely without toxic effects.
The GABA-B part of GHB, as you feel it from 150mg baclofen, is not at all that interesting to stimulant use. The effect on the vascular system is miniscule. The GHB-receptor part isn't that great either, considering you already got the flood from the meth/cocaine/whatever - no one needs additional stimulation. Benzos + stimulant = retarded, everyone realizes. And opioids + sitmulants? Fuck that. Taking all the shit at once = death, or something.
So really is it just so, that GHB is the best drug to counteract physical side-effects and anxiety when coming down?
Isn't there any other shit other than GHB that's even better? Maybe something, just benzo-ish and physical at most - not psychotropic.
And yeah, snort some 4g racemic street amphetamine on Friday to Saturday, you will probably get close to death without GHB. 4F-MPH not so, physical effects are less extreme. Still. Its all ridiculous how much you can tolerate with GHB along - without feeling much impaired and better than ever (really better). I ate like 10 propanolol to get my blood pressure back on track as much as just 3ml GBL would have done. And I could fucking feel that it just didn't do the job well. Blood supply was still cut off as shit, just not in the main vessels. GHB is like a full restoration.
Its just so weird. Here we have the entire stock of modern medicine, and what medically cures the huge dilemma of one class of party drugs, is just pumping yourself full of yet another party drug? Seriously, there must be something better.
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