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RCs Anyone have experience with long term, daily use of GBL?

ayemsea

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I'm currently in the process of running some clinical trials on my pet hamster, Boris.

Boris is a 30 year old, 120 kg male hamster. He is currently taking Zoloft (Sertraline HCL) and Propranolol twice per day, as prescribed by a doctor, and has been following the doctors orders for the past 6 years, but has been feeling like the meds aren't really working for him any more; he has been sleeping a lot more than usual (12 hours~ per day), and lacking motivation to do anything at all really. He has no energy, and no 'drive' to do anything any more. Total bean bag.

So, in order to attempt to cheer him up, I started feeding him 500[FONT=arial, sans-serif]µl of GBL every 1-2 hours, and have kept this up for almost 1 month now.[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]If Boris wants to sleep, I give him 2ml every 2 hours (every time he wakes up, keep redosing)[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]He tells me that he, for the first time in his adult hamster life, actually feels happy. He enjoys going outside, socializing, performing menial household chores and isn't sleeping at all during the day any more[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Does anyone have any experience with this kind of dosage? How long can he expect to remain at this dose before becoming tolerant to it's effects?[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Would it be better to try and get this dose down to maybe 300µl? or perhaps even lower? is there a 'threshold' amount that he needs to take to get the stimulating effects of GBL?[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]I'm trying to think long-term for him, as in, what would the implications of dosing like this every 2 hours for, say, 6 years (aside from the inevitable tolerance build-up and addiction to GHB, which he intends to manage with slight incremental dosing alterations and tapering)?

Also would it be worth converting the GBL into GHB before administration? As he has heard that GHB has a more 'steady' come-up, as opposed to GBL where it just 'hits' you suddenly. He thinks this might be better in the long term.

Thanks
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I'm calling the RSPCA
Your hamster is very overweight & you should stop drugging him

*Sorry for my snarky reply to your first post - animal analogies & SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) have no place on this forum & afford you no protection (& are also quite confusing) There is a 'Why we don't use 'SWIM' thread or post somewhere, but I couldn't find it just now, so can't really expect you to have seen it
 
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I wonder how much benefit your getting, other than raising tolerance with the sub 1mg doses?

I think some of the benefits your mentioning would come alone from 1.5mg to 2mg sleep doses anyway?
Does also sound like dangerous territory.
I didnt enjoy stopping gbl use, i only used daily about 3 or 4 times for a year.
Was hard to stop
 
I'm calling the RSPCA
Your hamster is very overweight & you should stop drugging him

*Sorry for my snarky reply to your first post - animal analogies & SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) have no place on this forum & afford you no protection (& are also quite confusing) There is a 'Why we don't use 'SWIM' thread or post somewhere, but I couldn't find it just now, so can't really expect you to have seen it
We spoke about it. He's fine with it. 8)
 
Hi Ayemsea and Welcome to BlueLight :)

I'm sorry you're having some difficulty that possibly requires long term use of GBL. If it really does come down to the point where long term use is a serious option I would consider speaking to a doctor about using something like sodium Oxybate that's a pure pharmaceutical product and weigh your options with that doctor.I don't have a ton of exp with GBL but here's a thread that should help till some more replies pop up.

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/642...yone-who-has-quit-a-G-addiction?highlight=GBL

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/39079-short-long-term-effects-of-GBL?highlight=GBL

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/370...edicine-Psych-for-GHB-GBL-detox?highlight=GBL
 
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Hi Ayemsea and Welcome to BlueLight :)

I'm sorry you're having some difficulty that possibly requires long term use of GBL. If it really does come down to the point where long term use is a serious option I would consider speaking to a doctor about using something like sodium Oxybate that's a pure pharmaceutical product and weigh your options with that doctor.I don't have a ton of exp with GBL but here's a thread that should help till some more replies pop up.

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/642...yone-who-has-quit-a-G-addiction?highlight=GBL

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/39079-short-long-term-effects-of-GBL?highlight=GBL

http://bluelight.org/vb/threads/370...edicine-Psych-for-GHB-GBL-detox?highlight=GBL

It would be nice if doctor could prescribe xyrem/sodium oxybate, but here in the UK it's used as a narcolepsy treatment, so I don't think they would prescribe it for depression :(
 
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