Amphetamines - Reducing the Urge to Redose.

[Deadbeathero]

Please note this is my first post, so I sincerely apologize if this is in the wrong section. Please move this, if needed.

Are there any steps that can be taken to reduce that compulsive urge to re dose Amphetamines. In this case I am specifically referring to Amphetamine Sulphate, as this the most common recreational/street Amphetamine in my area of Europe. However if it is relevant, and does not retract too greatly from the theme of this thread, please feel free to share your experiences/knowledge regarding similar Amphetamines.

I understand that many factors will affect this urge, most notably ROA(e.g. insufflation vs. oral) as a faster/harder come up results in effects diminishing faster, which will bring about the urge to get back to where you were before. I also understand greater doses and more consistent dosing will also result in the similar outcome. Finally I understand willpower plays a huge role in this, along with personal factors such as a predisposition to addiction/abuse, but these are not factors which to discuss.

What I would like to discuss is, whether there are supplements or other steps which can be taken to reduce that niggling feeling to have another dose?

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
Deadbeathero.

 

[Intenselife]

Hmmm i've never had "street amphetamine" other than meth (which you stated in europe and is rare to find there). I here in Europe they have street amphetamine and have no idea how strong they are or what it even feels like/made of, but for someone who is prescribed an amphetamine and don't take it daily but instead every now and then i have a few tips for the redosing aspect.

First off my urge to re-dose comes from the high lasting about 3-4 hours, and then a relatively shitty feeling (i'm assuming you get that shitty feeling from that street amphetamine as well when it wears off). The desire to take more or re-dose comes into play to either keep that good feeling going, or to get rid of the shitty feeling. However as you and I already know it just creates a higher tolerance and is worse for you, when you get a urge to re-dose take some low dose of benzos or even opiates (as long as you don't have an addiction with either or do it often) and it will take the edge off and you'll feel better and should get a less craving to re-dose.

Since I know not everyone including myself doesn't have access to a lot of pills or other drugs, drink a few beers to feel better and induce drowsiness and forget about re-dosing, even some over the counter sleeping aids will help and cigarettes. That's the tip i personally use to keep from keeping me dying to re-dose. I just take some over the counter sleeping pills to take away the urge to redose and the shitty feeling, and cigarettes definitely help too.

 

[8ball1234]

I've read somewhere that ssri's help with amphetamine/methamphetamine cravings even coke. More like anti-depressants in general. If your a lucky fellow and have little to no side effects from them I would go to a Pdoc and talk about anti-depressants.

But fair warning they have some pretty bad side effects tried two different ones Prozac and Paxil. one left me in a hypo manic state and feeling like a robot with a crazy feeling (although had that crazy feeling before starting) and the other nonstimulent ssri left me to sleep away a month of my life. So be careful. There are other antidepressants though like Wellbutrin and trazadone. I think it's called a SARI (correct me if I'm wrong) and Wellbutrin I don't know what type of anti depressant that is. Also taking any antidepressant with amphetamine or methamphetamine or Cocaine is not a good idea since it could cause serotonin syndrome and seziures

But if your not looking for a long term solution to cravings I would say some benzos help or some melatonin.

 

[DexyDevil]

Yuck, I would think racemic amphetamine sulphate would decrease the urge to redoes all by itself. Doesn't it give you a nasty body load? Don't get me wrong, a little levoamphetamine is OK in therapeutic doses of Adderall but I would think recreational doses of racemic stuff would feel awful. Drop some Seroquel or benzos and lay it down.

 

[dookman]

Hmmm i've never had "street amphetamine" other than meth (which you stated in europe and is rare to find there). I here in Europe they have street amphetamine and have no idea how strong they are or what it even feels like/made of, but for someone who is prescribed an amphetamine and don't take it daily but instead every now and then i have a few tips for the redosing aspect.

First off my urge to re-dose comes from the high lasting about 3-4 hours, and then a relatively shitty feeling (i'm assuming you get that shitty feeling from that street amphetamine as well when it wears off). The desire to take more or re-dose comes into play to either keep that good feeling going, or to get rid of the shitty feeling. However as you and I already know it just creates a higher tolerance and is worse for you, when you get a urge to re-dose take some low dose of benzos or even opiates (as long as you don't have an addiction with either or do it often) and it will take the edge off and you'll feel better and should get a less craving to re-dose.

i already have xanax prescribed and it doesn't do anything to stop me from redosing... up 2 -3 nights in a row - then crash... when i am doing it (amphetamine suplhate, labtested, so i know what i have) i just can't stop...

 

[thedawn]

looks like you might have to quit cold turkey if you want to quit.
the re dosing feels horrible,I did it with all other drugs,"just one for…".
never did much speed though.
maybe a "one day at a time"approach would work for you.
don't future trip.
don't use one minute,one second at a time.
and give the xanax a second chance,they should work.

 

[DuckEcho]

Im kind of feeling the same way I still have a half gram left after this 3 1/2 day binge and I want to do it, but I dont want to (yet). What id due when I wanted to try and sleep or just stop doing some meth for a good 6-8 hours is pop an oxy... it took almost 2 hours to take effect but it was worth it. maybe try that ok good luck and as the guy above me said, definitely try xanax agiain. I get prescribed 2mg bars and ive been able to sleep a few times during this binge because of the xanax. it helps you come down and feel good and if you want to sleep, you will.

 

[Onandoff]

Try some high quality kratom in combination with your Amp. Sulf. Such a great combo they potentiate each other.... 5g of some nice thai strain 2 hours after your initial Amphetamine Sulphate dose will do you great and smoothes out everything and you won't crave for that quick redose. I only need to do ampheatmine sulphate or dexedrine once a day as long as I have some nice kratom handy. 50mg initial dose all I need with Amp. Sulf. The first rush from first does is quite nice... kratom definitely prolongs it. Combination with Phenibut is quite nice too but Phenibut will take forever to kick in.
Benzos only for sleeeep in the end.

edit: had hard time getting off kratom last time though! WD can be very uncomfortable.

 

[tweex]

Modafinil. Just about everything else is urban legend.

 

[FelliniWasAJunkie]

I know this is an old thread . . .

The desire to redose will never go away. Distraction only works for so long, and usually distraction involves other drugs. The fact is, for some of us (not saying you, by all means), including myself -- we just can't help it. Yet every time on that first dose, I promise myself to take what the doc ordered. I truly believe I can do it. Cut to: three days later, no sleep, nothing to eat. And by God the psychological terror that follows . . . I'm a recovering heroin addict, and I'd take a opiate withdrawal over stimulant withdrawal (after toxic level has been reached) any day. That is saying a lot. I have many memories of locking myself in my basement for two weeks getting over dope, knowing I won't die, but really wanting to . . . It all had a time limit. After extreme amphetamine abuse, you spend months just so your dopamine will reach 75% what it used to be.

If you have a problem with redosing, then this isn't the drug for you. But that doesn't mean much; it isn't the drug for me, yet here I am, searching BL threads for every remedy I can find, wanting to eat and sleep but redosing anyways. This drug, d-amphetamines, is underrated in its ability to fuck a person up for what could be life.

 

[livinginahaze]

I know this is an old thread . . .

The desire to redose will never go away. Distraction only works for so long, and usually distraction involves other drugs. The fact is, for some of us (not saying you, by all means), including myself -- we just can't help it. Yet every time on that first dose, I promise myself to take what the doc ordered. I truly believe I can do it. Cut to: three days later, no sleep, nothing to eat. And by God the psychological terror that follows . . . I'm a recovering heroin addict, and I'd take a opiate withdrawal over stimulant withdrawal (after toxic level has been reached) any day. That is saying a lot. I have many memories of locking myself in my basement for two weeks getting over dope, knowing I won't die, but really wanting to . . . It all had a time limit. After extreme amphetamine abuse, you spend months just so your dopamine will reach 75% what it used to be.

If you have a problem with redosing, then this isn't the drug for you. But that doesn't mean much; it isn't the drug for me, yet here I am, searching BL threads for every remedy I can find, wanting to eat and sleep but redosing anyways. This drug, d-amphetamines, is underrated in its ability to fuck a person up for what could be life.

I completely agree with what you said. I've never had my own prescription or a doctor to tell me how much to take but I've spent so much time money and energy buying amps from drug dealers. I'm not a daily user but I'll binge anywhere from a few days to a couple weeks. Then I'll run out of pills and feel like an anxiety ridden zombie with major depression and a very hard time feeling any kind of happiness or motivation to care about anything. Not to mention the physical exhaustion is brutal. I can manage to stay away from the pills for a couple months sometimes and other times I can't even make it a few days before I go out and buy more. This cycle has been a big part of my life for about 4 years now and its really catching up to me. I've never felt so isolated in my life. I've never done heroin so I won't try to compare the withdrawals but amphetamine withdrawal is soul crushingly bad. Other people might not even notice it but if I'm not high on uppers I'm usually going through an emotional hell inside my head. The worId becomes a scary place and its almost impossible to enjoy anything or relax at all. I didn't even know what an amphetamine was the first time I tried them cause they don't have the well known bad reputation drugs like heroin and crack or meth. But I've been told by people who do adderall and meth thst they really are chemically almost identical.

 

[livinginahaze]

I find that vyvanse is easier to resist redosing cause it lasts a long fucking time and you can't snort it. . Its not as euphoric or intense as adderall but it still gets me confident and speedy. 70 to 110 mgs gets me feeling great for at least 8 hours, sometimes closer to 12 hours depending on the dose. All you have to do is pop a couple pills and you shouldn't have to redose again all day. Just don't take them too late in the day unless you want to be up all night

 

[tightlywound]

I find that vyvanse is easier to resist redosing cause it lasts a long fucking time and you can't snort it. . Its not as euphoric or intense as adderall but it still gets me confident and speedy. 70 to 110 mgs gets me feeling great for at least 8 hours, sometimes closer to 12 hours depending on the dose. All you have to do is pop a couple pills and you shouldn't have to redose again all day. Just don't take them too late in the day unless you want to be up all night

odd you should say that, different brain chemistries and all, because both my boyfriend and I have always agreed that vyvanse is way more powerful and way more euphoric than adderall. seriously I can do a few hundred mg adderall and feel like I'm hopped up on caffeine and nothing more, it's not worth much to me, but I'd choose vyvanse over IV meth unless it was GREAT meth, it gets me going.
and maybe because vyvanse was the first amphetamine I ever used heavily (I had a scrip briefly as a young teen when it was brand new), but I don't have a strong redosing urge w/ amphetamines. I never even much cared about the rush, I'm all about the buzz. I always hated doing meth w/ my boyfriend because w/in 15min of the first shot he'd have himself locked in the bathroom for the rest of the day/night w/ the rest of the meth and his computer and would spend the next 12 hours in the shower watching porn, jacking off and shooting up. how could I be surprised that he ended up an incurable tweaker right? hah. I would just be like "okay, I'm going to stay out here and enjoy my high and go to sleep in 8hrs, see ya"
I'm not into amphetamines at all anymore though, have turned down freebies over the past years, etc; but even when I was convinced they were my drug of choice I didn't have a strong redosing urge, at least until the buzz was well wearing off.
maybe it was the vyvanse or maybe I'm just weird.
I have a ridiculous redosing urge w/ opiates though ...and that is what's landed me in the ER. xP